Ok, what's the Cadillac of the vaporizers?

[Southern Tina]

didn't take long for the haters to appear so please dont just spout hateness tell the Op whats better for less and where to look

Thank you. I didn't mean to offend anyone with the Cadillac comment. It was just an old saying. I know I'm new and don't know much so I appreciate all the suggestions more than you know. Don't worry. I'll eventually learn enough to talk the talk and actually sound like I know what I'm saying . We've only been vaping since Christmas. I'm trying to learn quickly.


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[tj99959]

The ego is the civic
The MVP is the Toyota Camry
The vamo is the jeep
The provari is the caddy
The zenesis is the Ferrari



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[Southern Tina]

That question can only be answered, ironically, by you. What are you looking for in an advanced device? Durability? Consistent accuracy? Protection? You can't get better than a Provari in that case. Otherwise, you're looking at mech mods, which are a whole other beast entirely. REOs, the Nemesis tubes just pictured. Try to figure out what is most important to you and go from there. You ask the question you asked, you're going to get a million different answers.

That makes sense. I should have been more specific. We are looking for a big battery life and one that produces a lot of vape. My hubby likes hot vape. Does that help? We don't want to build one or much DIY stuff. Of course warranty and consistent accuracy are important too. We don't want to waste $150 each only to have it break in a couple of months. We are willing to spend the $$ but want it to last. Can't afford to replace it all the time.


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[Vicshalls]

You do not sound like an idiot at all. We all have to start some where. Actually you started better off than i did. lol All of it is subjective. There are tons of mods out there and they all pretty much do the same thing. They vape for you and that is what you want. To me the biggest selling point for the provari was it is made in the USA and you can get it fixed if you ever need to. The VW you can set it and forget it. That has its bonuses, but in my experience it seems that each liquid seems to need to be fine tuned to what I like. If you are not accident prone any of the mods would be a good choice. If you are accident prone I would go with the the provari just because it will hold up better if dropped or thrown at some idiot. I personally am not accident prone but my wife is so it was in my best intrest to get the provari. lol

 

[SteelerFan]

Thank you. I didn't mean to offend anyone with the Cadillac comment. It was just an old saying. I know I'm new and don't know much so I appreciate all the suggestions more than you know. Don't worry. I'll eventually learn enough to talk the talk and actually sound like I know what I'm saying . We've only been vaping since Christmas. I'm trying to learn quickly.


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Nah, I don't think you offended anyone, people just take pride in their set ups, and that will usually spark some debate, no fault of yours though

I'm glad you revised your question, hopefully now you'll get some legitimate answers that will help you on your way


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[DaveP]

Hot Vape is a product of the atomizer coil resistance and/or the voltage and amperage range of the PV. Provari voltage range is from 2.9v to 6v and it will output up to 3.5 amps to the coil. Provari hasn't yet introduced a variable wattage device yet. I paid $225 for mine at $159 for the SS model, $24.95 for the extra year warranty, $25 for 2 - AW 18650 IMR batts, some cartos, and tax and shipping. It has worked flawlessly for two years and it has rolled out of the car onto concrete more than a few times.

I bought a Sigelei Zmax V3 for $74 at the local Stormy's Vapor Cellar B&M shop. It was intended to be a backup to my Provari and has filled that role well. It's VV and VW and has similar specs to the Provari, but only came with a 30 day warranty. It's stainless steel and will use three different sizes of lMR batteries. Assembled, it's about 3/8" longer than the Provari. It has been reliable and produces a great vape. Variable wattage allows you to set it for the vape you want and forget about making voltage changes if you change atomizer resistance. It makes the adjustments for you.

All the people who work at Stormy's walk around with the Itaste MVP and rave about it. I may try it one day. It's a square box a little less than the size of a Marlboro pack with all the bells and whistles. It starts at $69.99 on their web site, but Carolyn told me that the one she was vaping was $104.

 

[exnihilo]

Silly people. If Russia made Cadillacs, then the Provari would be the answer. To that end, and coincidentally, I feel this is a better answer:



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[sbc83]

Thank you. I didn't mean to offend anyone with the Cadillac comment. It was just an old saying. I know I'm new and don't know much so I appreciate all the suggestions more than you know. Don't worry. I'll eventually learn enough to talk the talk and actually sound like I know what I'm saying . We've only been vaping since Christmas. I'm trying to learn quickly.


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What I'm trying to say is that a Provari isn't a Cadillac, more like a highly optioned Honda Accord.

I was just poking fun at the Provari owners rushing into the thread. Reminded me of what ants do when a potato chip falls on the ground.

 

[buce15]

imo The REO is not for you. If you don't want to rebuild anything and have more of a "fill the tank and vape away" experience, don't go with a REO. ProVari is obviously a great APV, however it is expensive (roughly $250 each). My vote is for the MVP2. About $50 each, great battery life, well built, well priced, you can even charge your phone on it if you're in a jam! If you're not a fan of the box shape/feel, an SVD, Zmax, Vamo, or eVic. The tanks you're using should be fine. If you're looking to upgrade, maybe a Protank-3, Aspire Nautilus, iClear 30 are all good options. Keep in mind all APVs (Advanced Personal Vaporizer) are pretty much the exact same thing but look different. They simply put out an electrical current. Assuming they're VV/VW (Variable Voltage/Variable Wattage), other than aesthetics and warranty, they really isn't much of a difference between them. At all. Others can and will argue that. As far as tanks, different models have their advantages and disadvantages. Do a little research on the ones I and others recommended in this thread, one of them will do just fine for you. As for your "hot" vape, just turn up the voltage/wattage and you should be fine.

 

[TaylorPlayer]

What is it about the Itaste VV/VW that you are not liking? My wife and I each have two of the Itaste vv you have. That was we can both vape all day and only have to swap batteries once during the day. I too am thinking about upgrading to something and the Provari seems very interesting to me. I can get one for $169 at my local B&M store but with batteries and charger it will easily put me north of $200. My wife would not go that route probably as she likes the ease of the Itaste VV/VW and vapes way less than I do. I work from home so I can pretty much vape all day (and I do!). It is interesting to see the comments on here though. I would like a better battery but I don't want to get into modding, building making my own juice or any of that yet. I have been vaping 5 months and am pretty happy with my IClear 16 and 30 tanks. I like that the provari would work with them but wonder if the "Hit" or anything will taste different from my Itaste. Would upgrading make for a better experience..... I just don't know if the price/benefit would be worth it.

 

[edyle]

Well, okay. Forget the Cadillac word.

Will the Provari provide a hot vape? That's what my hubby tends to like the best. I'm starting to as well. Is it bad to hot vape? I know it runs the battery down quicker.


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The Provari is just a container for rechargeable batteries. It is top quality.

For a warmer vape, you want a top coil tank.
Bottom coil tanks provide a cooler vape.

 

[edyle]

That makes sense. I should have been more specific. We are looking for a big battery life and one that produces a lot of vape. My hubby likes hot vape. Does that help? We don't want to build one or much DIY stuff. Of course warranty and consistent accuracy are important too. We don't want to waste $150 each only to have it break in a couple of months. We are willing to spend the $$ but want it to last. Can't afford to replace it all the time.


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Here is a choice:

The MVP is a good buy, but it is only a battery; You already have an iTaste; again that is only a battery; the MVP is a bigger battery.

The upgrade from a battery is a battery container, such as the Provari and other such devices.

As for how to get a big set of FOG, that's the big question. The TANK is where you want to pay attention.

You can go the carto way or the 'clearo' way.

 

[Ref Minor]

Silly people. If Russia made Cadillacs, then the Provari would be the answer. To that end, and coincidentally, I feel this is a better answer:

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Ah, the Mercedes of APVs

*for those not interested in cars! the Mercedes is the car Americans buy when they are rich enough not to have to have an American car.

 

[Baditude]

The iTaste V3 and the iTaste MVP are great options, but their top voltage is only 5 volts. Since your husband likes a HOT vape, the other variable voltage mods on the market will go up to 6 volts.

The pro's & cons between a Provari and the other mods (ie Chinese manufactured) is that the China manufacturers only offer a short warranty and will only replace (not repair) their products. After warranty, you're out of luck as they expect you to buy another one - they don't do repairs.

The Provari comes with a 1 year warranty, option to add a second year for $25 at time of purchase (if you want it, most don't). After warranty, Provape will still repair a Provari for reasonable repair costs for as long as you own the product. Repair turnaround times are typically just one week.

Provari Post-Warranty Standard Service Repair Costs

Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $20.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00
Return shipping within the USA - $5.00

The appeal of a Provari is that it is a high end mod intended for the long-term vaper. Many people have gone through a slew of the cheaper Chinese-made mods only to have them fail and have to continually replace them. The Provari offers an alternative to buy just one mod and have it last for years.

 

[Baditude]

I'll also recommend checking out a cartotank. Since you don't seem interested in getting into do-it-yourself RBA's, building coils and wicks, the best juice attachment will be a cartotank.

IS IT A CARTO, A TANK, OR WHAT?

CARTOTANK TUTORIAL

IBTANKED PYREX CARTOTANKS - REVIEW

VENDOR LIST FOR PRE-PUNCHED CARTOMIZERS

 

[FearTX]

I would say Provari or MVP2 for your budget. Provari will stretch it but last for ever, MVP2 is under budget but does what it does well. One will go the distance, the other will go far enough but costs are such that it is easily replaceable.

There are other mods out there that do more than either of them do, at a higher cost usually than both put together. They are good as well if you can afford them and need or want those features.

I own a Provari (Cadillac) because I do not see my need for a Semovar - Mercedes

I own a Ford Raptor 4WD because I need 4WD and like the Raptor. I could have bought a Mercedes for the money, but they seem kind fruity to me and it is just a car.

 

[exnihilo]

Ha, glad folks get my analogy, but also look at it this way, over in Germany, which car do you think gets more attention, a Mercedes or a Caddy? I'll give you a hint, it's not the Mercedes.

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[B1sh0p]

I'll also recommend checking out a cartotank. Since you don't seem interested in getting into do-it-yourself RBA's, building coils and wicks, the best juice attachment will be a cartotank.

IS IT A CARTO, A TANK, OR WHAT?

CARTOTANK TUTORIAL

IBTANKED PYREX CARTOTANKS - REVIEW

VENDOR LIST FOR PRE-PUNCHED CARTOMIZERS

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For the new vaper that wants a good vape and ease of use, I'm predicting the Nautilas will be the carto tank killer.

 

[Ryedan]

That makes sense. I should have been more specific. We are looking for a big battery life and one that produces a lot of vape. My hubby likes hot vape. Does that help? We don't want to build one or much DIY stuff. Of course warranty and consistent accuracy are important too. We don't want to waste $150 each only to have it break in a couple of months. We are willing to spend the $$ but want it to last. Can't afford to replace it all the time.

Taking your specs one at a time:

Battery life. The MVP has a 2600 mAh battery of a slightly different lithium ion chemistry than the typical battery we use. It will likely give you the most run time of any device out there that I think fits what you want. You can get them for about $40 including a clearomizer that comes with it. Perfectly good device and for $40 if it fails you're not out much. Someone already mentioned, it's shaped like a small pack of smokes (box mod). The battery is not removable so when it dies (after at least 300 full recharges) you'll have to toss the device. A lot of people have one.

Produces a lot of vapor and hot vapor. The power supply (Provari, Zmax, MVP, etc, aka a PV or mod) does not actually produce vapor. Its function is to put out enough power to drive the topper (device you screw onto the power supply) properly. The vapor is created by the topper and as long as you stay with typical toppers like clearos (what you show in your picture), cartos, etc, any of the typical mods out there will do that. Typically you'll get a minimum of 3.5 amps from any of them and I think what you have now is 2.5 amps max. 5 amps is possible, but weather you need that is up to you and unfortunately you won't know until you experiment with it. You can certainly experiment with the battery you have now the get a feel for this.

Warranty, consistent accuracy and toughness. Provari or Reos can't be beat here, but both are over what you're looking for on price. The problem with anything else that costs less is that they don't have the warranties, are not generally repairable when they break and they're not nearly as tough.

So, in a nutshell, you can't have quality, accuracy, tough, powerful and inexpensive in the same package. That's one reason so many people have more than one or two PVs.

 

[Baditude]

For the new vaper that wants a good vape and ease of use, I'm predicting the Nautilas will be the carto tank killer.

I strongly disagree. The Nautilas is still a rebuildable atomizer requiring the user to make their own coils and all that goes into that. Many vapers are not interested in doing this, myself included.

Cartotank technology may not have changed much in the last couple of years. But then, if it ain't broke, why fix it?