Older GGTS and AVS question

[5vz]

I took apart the GGTS and AVS to clean. The two tiny o-rings on the center post were inside the black plastic part. I managed to toothpick them out and put them back. Now the AVS leaks. It leaked when I first got it, but simply getting new o-rings helped, that was a year ago! I have forgotten where I need o-rings and looked at the print document, but my parts don't look the same. My GGTS is supposed to be number 995, but I can't see any numbers on it. I think the AVS is version 2, I am not sure. Using 510 atty connector. The center pin and brass nut thing is where I see a difference from the diagram. The black plastic screw on part is attached to the brass nut thing, not two pieces, as far as I can tell. When I look at the diagram I see a third one also. I am not mechanically inclined, ask the auto shop I take the car too all the time, lol! ETA: It is leaking from tank into collector cup, into batteries. Also some come out the control ring holes, but that could be b/c I was blowing down into the GGTS, new atty, not feeding due to me not doing something right.

My question is this, more of a request. Can someone please make a video of where to put the o-rings and which ones? Or just explain to me in child like terms? I am going to order a bunch of o-rings going by the listed numbers for both the GGTS and AVS, and know I will need to eventually replace more than just those 2 microscopic ones, but I really don't know where they all go, or how many go in there, right now most especially the AVS. And, sigh, I don't know which size goes where. I know, very embarrassing.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help!

 

[gredie]

Hi 5vz,


at the GG wiki you can find a detailed diagram and description of AVS and a list of needed o-rings for it.

I hope this helps a bit.

 

[5vz]

Thanks gredie. That is the diagram I was talking about. Also, the size o-rings doesn't help if some are missing and I don't know where they go in the first place. I am really slow I guess.

I just put it all back together, but not on the GGTS. Filled with h20, it runs right through, and yep, some comes out of the control ring air holes too, but it just runs straight through. I don't know what I did or how to fix it.

ETA: I forgot to mention there were bits of broken o-ring in some threads, I can't remember which threads, but that tells me I don't know where it came from.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

No, Zoranth has made illustrations that show the size and location of the rings in the wiki and there is a sticky on the subforum with them all collected ther (Have I said you're a demi-god lately, Zor?)........let me look for it and link it here.....http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/308...-pdf-august-16-2011-8-19-pm-144k?dn=y.......:)

 

[5vz]

Thank you Ripple, I download, but it is still the same. The center post, then the brass nut, then the black plastic male thingy (center post standoff, according to the diagram). On the AVS I have the brass nut and black plastic thing do not come apart. So I put the two tiny, soon to be replaced o-rings above the black plastic thing and cannot seem to fit another larger one over that and be able to get it in the AVS. Also don't know where to put them on the 510 connector on the other part. I'm so confused.

 

[fright88]

That is the collector tank not the avs. If you are able to post pictures it might help

 

[Zoranth]

The Black plastic part and the Brass nut DO come apart. Inside there is where you are supposed to put the 2x 2mmx1mm orings. If you do not do that then it will never work correctly. To take them apart, wrap a rubberband around the black plastic part to give you something to grip on. Then use a hex wrench and twist the Brass nut until the two come apart.

 

[5vz]

Thanks Fright, I don't have a way to post pictures though.

Zoranth, thank you for explaining, and the size of the o-rings. I will try to do the hex wrench and rubberband method tonight when I get home from work.

 

[5vz]

Okay, got the black plastic part and brass hex head apart. The rubber band trick worked! Just waiting on new o-rings to come in to put all back together again. Thank you so far! I'm sure I'll be back confused again, I know the diagrams are great, but my mind just gets confused and starts cross referencing incorrectly.

 

[5vz]

I'm back, sorry. I got the 2 little 2mmx1mm orings in. Do any other orings go on that part?

I filled it up, and juice is coming out of the tank at the control ring holes. I do not have an oring on the atty as the ones I tried will not let me screw on the 510 connector. Do I need one there? What size?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Para]

I'm back, sorry. I got the 2 little 2mmx1mm orings in. Do any other orings go on that part?

I filled it up, and juice is coming out of the tank at the control ring holes. I do not have an oring on the atty as the ones I tried will not let me screw on the 510 connector. Do I need one there? What size?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Imeo posted the o-ring guide HERE.

Everything has to be assembled properly; including o-rings.

 

[5vz]

Thank you Para, but I don't understand the PDF pictures or the said measurements, I don't understand where they go. The pictures seem to mean something else to me than what is supposed to be. My mind is not grasping what pictures say.

 

[Para]

Thank you Para, but I don't understand the PDF pictures or the said measurements, I don't understand where they go. The pictures seem to mean something else to me than what is supposed to be. My mind is not grasping what pictures say.

AVS

8/2 base of 901 atomizer inside AVS
9/2,5 between 2 caps of the AVS tank
17/1,5 (2) big refill cap and between collector tank and connector of GGTS
14/1 outside of the lids
21/1,5 inside CR
2/1 (2) inside connector
9/1,5 901 lid
11/1,5 801 lid
5/1,5 510 atomizer extension

...Imeo included a note next to the sizes where they go.

Example: The 510 atomizer extension in the AVS ----- one 5mm x 1.5mm o-ring
Example: Between the two caps at the top of the AVS ---- one 9mm x 2.5mm o-ring

In the pdf file Zoranth created there is a schematic of the AVS showing each part and how they all fit together. Match up your parts with the pictures of the parts.

Did the AVS suddenly start leaking?...just wondering what happened that would be the cause that started it. That would give a good indication of which o-ring to check closely for flat spots.

 

[5vz]

I took it apart to clean it. There was an old oring in pieces but I did not know where it came from.

I replaced the GGTS center pin with new one, and 510 atty connector with new one since I could not figure it out. But it is still leaking from the control ring air holes. Maybe I need to adjust atty connector. I will try the 5mm by 1.5 mm oring on the atty, and will look at the area between the two caps.

For some reason when I look at the pictures, I do not understand where the orings go. For example: on the center pin - I see the two tiny ones that I have replaced, then I see a third one in the picture that is bigger and have no idea where that goes.

Thank you for the help. Guess I could never read crytpographs for a living!

 

[Para]

Look on Page 11 of the GGTS User Guide....in the AVS blow up there's an o-ring that goes between the two lids and over the 510 atomizer extension. This provides the seal for the top of the tank so it has to fit just right. A touch of vasoline on all o-rings once you do the final assembly is always a good idea.

 

[5vz]

Okay, I have been replacing orings, and trying orings for hours. I am really that slow. I know I have watched all of these before, and for the last few weeks, but I went back to the videos. Here it says no oring on the atty due to the control ring. I am now trying that and will see what happens in a few hours. Goodness knows I have probably done something wrong cramming orings where they don't go, or where they do. Very embarrassing, but I thought the one thing I found everyone should know. No orings on 510 connector and atty.

adjustable feature for 510 inside AVS - YouTube

And, nevermind, I still have juice leaking out of the control ring air holes.

 

[fright88]

First off make sure your juice controll ring is bairly cracked.

1.When you put on a new atty or take it appart loosen the posative pin from the 510 connector and turn down the juice controll ring all the way so the gaps ae showing.

2.Put the 510 atomizer extender on the atty.
3.Next put on the 510 atomizer firmly.

4.Tighten the posative pin back up to make connection with the atomizer and screw the juice controll ring all the way back up so the juice gaps are covered. Then turn it back down maybe 1/8 of a turn.

5.Put the atomizer and connector on the tank.

6. Thread the tank onto the ggts and close the air controll completely.

7. Fill the tank with juice.
8. Put on the tank cap
9. Put on the tank cap o-ring (the one pictured in the pick)

10. Put on the o-ring top cap
11. Put on the mouthpiece. (some people have found completely tightening then backing off 1.4 turn helps)

After all this I usually found some juice leaked into the collector tank so I usually opened the air controll completely and vaped to get rid of the excess juice. Once you start getting dry hits back off the air controll and adjust as needed.

If the pictured o ring is not in place the juice will dump into the collector tank. Also the same can happen if the air controll is open when you fill and it can happen if you didn't adjust the center pin when you attached the atty because it will not screw on all the way.


Edited to add all the pics I could sorry my atomizer extender is not easily accesssable (it is in my truck and getting my wheelchair through the snow to it is a .....) But hopefully this should help

 

[5vz]

Oh yes, this helps. I am working on it now. Thank you fright!

ETA: So far so good. Thank you everyone.

 

[fright88]

Oh yes, this helps. I am working on it now. Thank you fright!

No problem some juices may require you to open the juice controll more then 1/8 of a turn but that is trial and error. Also some require the juice controll to be closed completely.

 

[Para]

First off make sure your juice controll ring is bairly cracked.

1.When you put on a new atty or take it appart loosen the posative pin from the 510 connector and turn down the juice controll ring all the way so the gaps ae showing.

2.Put the 510 atomizer extender on the atty.
3.Next put on the 510 atomizer firmly.

4.Tighten the posative pin back up to make connection with the atomizer and screw the juice controll ring all the way back up so the juice gaps are covered. Then turn it back down maybe 1/8 of a turn.

5.Put the atomizer and connector on the tank.

6. Thread the tank onto the ggts and close the air controll completely.

7. Fill the tank with juice.
8. Put on the tank cap
9. Put on the tank cap o-ring (the one pictured in the pick)

10. Put on the o-ring top cap
11. Put on the mouthpiece. (some people have found completely tightening then backing off 1.4 turn helps)

After all this I usually found some juice leaked into the collector tank so I usually opened the air controll completely and vaped to get rid of the excess juice. Once you start getting dry hits back off the air controll and adjust as needed.

If the pictured o ring is not in place the juice will dump into the collector tank. Also the same can happen if the air controll is open when you fill and it can happen if you didn't adjust the center pin when you attached the atty because it will not screw on all the way.


Edited to add all the pics I could sorry my atomizer extender is not easily accesssable (it is in my truck and getting my wheelchair through the snow to it is a .....) But hopefully this should help

This should be added to the instruction section; in a new thread with just the pictures and procedures.....and then stickied.

Nicely done.....very nicely done indeed.