Omega - Intermittent Firing

[grimulus]

I've adjusted, cleaned, sanded (lightly), and whatever else to try and keep my Omega from intermittently firing.

I can't figure out the exact cause, occasionally a light tap on the bottom gets it going for a hit or two. Anyone have any ideas?

batteries: 3.7v 18650 AW Protected 2200,ah and 3.7v 18650 Trustfire Flame 2400mah.
Atty: Cisco 1.5 - I've had this issue with IKVs as well.

 

[cddz]

I've adjusted, cleaned, sanded (lightly), and whatever else to try and keep my Omega from intermittently firing.

I can't figure out the exact cause, occasionally a light tap on the bottom gets it going for a hit or two. Anyone have any ideas?

batteries: 3.7v 18650 AW Protected 2200,ah and 3.7v 18650 Trustfire Flame 2400mah.
Atty: Cisco 1.5 - I've had this issue with IKVs as well.

Are these batteries flat top batteries? If so, have you dropped you Omega on the atty. There could be a dent in the top of the battery. What all did you sand? I hope you did not sand the nickel off the firing pin
How far apart is the gap?

 

[grimulus]

Are these batteries flat top batteries? If so, have you dropped you Omega on the atty. There could be a dent in the top of the battery. What all did you sand? I hope you did not sand the nickel off the firing pin
How far apart is the gap?

I probably shouldn't have have said "sanded", it was more like a dusting. But anyway - hot spring (both sides), firing pin (both sides), and atty cup nob inside (though it was more of a wiping, can't really get in there).

My batteries are button top.

I've played with the gap distance, but settled on the standard and recommended dime size width.

Would it be possible to get some new internal components? I suppose I could've messed something up in cleaning. I don't mind to purchase as mine are out of warranty, and it's probably my fault.

 

[ccbflo]

I had an issue like this, i had a bit of white crap?... (maybe corrosion)? in the bottom under the hot spring, I cleaned it out with a rolled up piece of sandpaper and its been fine ever since!

 

[cddz]

Did Rob contact you? I supplied him with some rebuild parts last week. You could submit a ticket asking for the parts

 

[grimulus]

Did Rob contact you? I supplied him with some rebuild parts last week. You could submit a ticket asking for the parts

No man, he sure hasn't. That's cool though, I'll probably put in a ticket this week.

Thanks for being so awesome. Altsmoke is always my go to for PVs.

 

[MisterCombo21]

Greetings.. I too would not mind buying replacement internals straight from the site.. I've had mine for a year and love it (Chad replaced the atty threading once)... I have cleaned and sanded it maybe twice....

Where is the nickel on the firing pin? Are we talking about the end that touches the battery or the wider end that touches the center pin? I may have sanded the battery end of the pin just slightly as right now, after i hit the switch there is a two to three second delay before it fires (with all cartos)... Sometimes it doesnt fire at all and I have to unscrew the atty a little... It actually seems to fire better and more consistnelty when only barely screwed on... I have messed with how far the center pin is pushed down and messed with the center pin on attys/ cartos... The pin that touches the battery definitely protrudes enough from the black ring so I know its making contact... It just seems pickier than it used to be..

 

[cddz]

The entire firing pin is nickel plated. If you sand it off, it will require cleaning more often than before is the only thing that will happen. If you have the pin advanced too much it can cause the battery(mostly flat tops) to dent in a bit, which in itself can cause a misfire. I have dented my share of batteries. Usually when I drop it and it lands on the attie. I have noticed when my Omega needs a cleaning it will take usually a second or so to hear the carto sizzle.

Chad

 

[MisterCombo21]

Yeah, probably needs a cleaning then even though I did it only a few weeks ago.... My button top batteries are dented a little... I'm having the best luck with the carto just barely screwed on, like one third of the way... I don't see how it can make a better connection not as tight...?

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[cddz]

Yeah, probably needs a cleaning then even though I did it only a few weeks ago.... My button top batteries are dented a little... I'm having the best luck with the carto just barely screwed on, like one third of the way... I don't see how it can make a better connection not as tight...?

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That does seem rather odd, wonder what the condition of the attie connector insulator is in.

 

[MisterCombo21]

Funny you should ask... It came loose at one point and the pin came out so I replaced it with the insulator from a carto since the original insulator was warped and ripped... the carto one fit perfectly though very tough to get it in right... It was solid with no tears and doesn't allow the pin to touch the outside (I hope). Maybe ill try replacing it though it took an hour of aggravation.... not sure how I finally got it- think tweezers or paperclip... the insulators look identical aside from color... You may b right though, could be that...

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[junquedujour]

I've adjusted, cleaned, sanded (lightly), and whatever else to try and keep my Omega from intermittently firing.

I can't figure out the exact cause, occasionally a light tap on the bottom gets it going for a hit or two. Anyone have any ideas?

Batteries: 3.7v 18650 AW Protected 2200,ah and 3.7v 18650 Trustfire Flame 2400mah.
Atty: Cisco 1.5 - I've had this issue with IKVs as well.

i recently picked up a used one and i was having the intermittent firing thing too. so i watched the 'how to' video and took it apart and did all the things shown - still it continued to hit&miss.
finally, as a last resort, i took it apart, once again, and just blew down into the bottom (hot spring area) and it has been working fine since.

if only all the tweaking was that easy, eh? ;-)

 

[MisterCombo21]

I know, right? You got lucky I think... probably some crud down there... I should clean that part again too... I can see some dark marks along the bottom of the tube that are tough to get out.... could b the culprit... Still gotta love it though


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[cddz]

The springs do have a high copper content and will require a good cleaning from time to time. I use 500 grit paper and a product called De-Ox it to clean the hard to reach areas As a side note, I am waiting on some silicone insulators and will do another "How To" video to explaining the easiest way to replace them

 

[junquedujour]

The springs do have a high copper content and will require a good cleaning from time to time. I use 500 grit paper and a product called De-Ox it to clean the hard to reach areas As a side note, I am waiting on some silicone insulators and will do another "How To" video to explaining the easiest way to replace them

i'm a dunce and i don't understand what the silicone insulators are for? insulate from what? perhaps i will have to wait for the video, eh? ;-D

 

[cddz]

i'm a dunce and i don't understand what the silicone insulators are for? insulate from what? perhaps i will have to wait for the video, eh? ;-D

LOL no, I meant that more for Mister. I have had a couple of people break thier insulators

 

[MisterCombo21]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who broke theirs... great idea on another how-to video.... I'd appreciate that Chad... then I could learn how to maintain it for life! It is a cool feeling knowing its something you could have forever with the know- how. I stripped the silver vein off and polished it and it looks sweet... the scratches give it character I think, like an old zippo...

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[junquedujour]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who broke theirs... great idea on another how-to video.... I'd appreciate that Chad... then I could learn how to maintain it for life! It is a cool feeling knowing its something you could have forever with the know- how. I stripped the silver vein off and polished it and it looks sweet... the scratches give it character I think, like an old zippo...
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it didn't happen if there isn't a photo hintHintHINT i wanna see it

 

[Dusty_D]

I've adjusted, cleaned, sanded (lightly), and whatever else to try and keep my Omega from intermittently firing.

I can't figure out the exact cause, occasionally a light tap on the bottom gets it going for a hit or two. Anyone have any ideas?

Batteries: 3.7v 18650 AW Protected 2200,ah and 3.7v 18650 Trustfire Flame 2400mah.
Atty: Cisco 1.5 - I've had this issue with IKVs as well.

In all the posts above, I did not see Noalox mentioned once. I had that problem after cleaning mine, and did not realize the importance of having noalox on the threads and at the base of the firing pin. A dab there fixed my issues, as the firing pin once again was making proper contact and transmitting the current required to the atty.

Not sure if in your cleaning process, you did what I did, and cleaned it a little too well.

 

[MisterCombo21]

Hmmm... I got noalox on the main threads... on the bottom for the hot spring works too? Where would u put it on the firing pin? Where it meets the center pin and insulator? This may be a revelation...


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