Once you Sub you can't stop

[BlueCanary]

Don't forget the need by some to mention that those vape shop cloud chuckers have.....wait for it.....wait for it.......tattoos! OMG!

Funny you should mention that. Because I'm a heavily tattooed person, and I was one long before it was common to see anyone, much less a woman, walking around with a bunch of visible tattoos. And I've noticed a similar sort of attitude within the tattooing community RE: younger people and how they are getting into tattoos. Instead of being glad that tattoos are starting to become "normal" and an accepted part of our culture, lots of people my age and older who were getting tattooed before it was "mainstream" act like younger people being into the stuff that we are into are somehow hurting us, or hurting the tattoo culture, or just somehow don't have the right to do what they want because they weren't there when it was a fringe thing that you had to sort of suffer for.

It's weird to see the same kind of attitude in the vaping community, using similar arguments and similar rhetoric. And really, to me it all sounds so much like "get off my lawn."

 

[WildChameleon]

We should be supporting each other on here, it doesn't matter what we cape at what strength liquids. Even if duel fueling.
What we seeing here I think is people that want to kick smoking and maybe one day kick the habit of vaping ? I like to experiment it's me I try different liquids. In fact I will do everything to improve my experience. Just like I mix my drinks when I go out.

We all want different things surely we should be able to agree with that ?

 

[chopdoc]

Funny you should mention that. Because I'm a heavily tattooed person, and I was one long before it was common to see anyone, much less a woman, walking around with a bunch of visible tattoos. And I've noticed a similar sort of attitude within the tattooing community RE: younger people and how they are getting into tattoos. Instead of being glad that tattoos are starting to become "normal" and an accepted part of our culture, lots of people my age and older who were getting tattooed before it was "mainstream" act like younger people being into the stuff that we are into are somehow hurting us, or hurting the tattoo culture, or just somehow don't have the right to do what they want because they weren't there when it was a fringe thing that you had to sort of suffer for.

It's weird to see the same kind of attitude in the vaping community, using similar arguments and similar rhetoric. And really, to me it all sounds so much like "get off my lawn."

Problem I am seeing is a lot of these kids are getting into the jailhouse type of tattoos. I have some ink and its well done professional variety yet these kids tatoos that I seen are sloppy and thats what they want. Kids that never did a day in their lives in jail with these. To me its sad.

 

[pistolpete]

My two favorite .20 ohms, 1.2 ohms

 

[stevegmu]

Problem I am seeing is a lot of these kids are getting into the jailhouse type of tattoos. I have some ink and its well done professional variety yet these kids tatoos that I seen are sloppy and thats what they want. Kids that never did a day in their lives in jail with these. To me its sad.

Bad tattoos and blowing clouds are all some people have going on in life...

 

[Say10]

I was getting down to .2 but as of late I've been moving back up to around .9-1.1 territory.

 

[siapaya]

For those who stated that they can easily move from subohm to 1.6 - 2.2 , I give you a salute.

It's almost impossible....

 

[WattWick]

Edit: On a second thought... nevermind.

 

[Katya]

Nope.

I tried sub-ohming, not my thing. I prefer my tame style of vaping. I vape like I used to smoke--mouth to lung. I do not want or need a lot of vapor, huge airflow, and I don't want to lung inhale. I don't like too much flavor either. I often vape unflavored.

 

[englishmick]

Problem I am seeing is a lot of these kids are getting into the jailhouse type of tattoos. I have some ink and its well done professional variety yet these kids tatoos that I seen are sloppy and thats what they want. Kids that never did a day in their lives in jail with these. To me its sad.

When I was a kid my grandfather and all his buddies had tattoos they did themselves during WWI. They took gunpowder out of bullets and burned it to make carbon, and jabbed it in with hand held needles. As a result they quickly turned into shapeless black blobs. There's a lot of high quality tattoos around these days. But there will always be kids who get ridiculous tattoos. Like the latest girlfriend's name done up by a buddy when they were all drunk. But I remember when the Beatles hit the scene and all the grown-ups thought it was the end of civilization, so I try not to judge people nowadays.

On the subject of vaping though. Some people are more adventurous than others. It took me years to move from cigalikes to Evods, and months to go from there to PT2's. I've been playing around with my Lemo for a while now. Couple of nice mods. Reading here it seems like some people work their way through every possible form of vaping in no time at all.

I don't think it's all just about getting a better vape either, I know it isn't for me. It's partly a hobby thing. It's fun to experiment, get new stuff, build fancy wooden stands, make coils, get good at something. But some folks just want a simple no-fuss gadget that feeds them nicotine so they don't have to smoke. It's all cool.

 

[Grimwald]

It's not the tattoos...I don't have any but they don't bother me. The piercings however....

 

[NancyR]

Or it very well might be. I know I love mine and my iPV and RDA's using Kanthal builds now sit. No more dry hits, more battery life and my liquid is always safe from overheating, causing toxins.

Now I know everybody is different and people enjoy different things. But one thing I've really noticed about the vaping community is, people are very much set in their ways. Because of this, people miss out on something because they aren't willing to try change.

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You sit there and talk about people nit picking or not wanting to try the latest and greats out, but how are you any better?

You been vaping what 6 months maybe longer, and it's great that you like what you are doing, but don't tell those of us who have already been through all that we are wrong because we KNOW what we like.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I dont follow the general disposition I suppose.... I normally do an SVD with an RSST at 1.5 - 2.2 ohms for my ADV, but I do enjoy a blast off of my Overdose copper mod sporting either a Magma or CLT with a .2 ohm coil..... so, I suppose I do both with equal enjoyment but one more than the other ( the RSST at 1.5+ more so).

 

[Bunnykiller]

Bad tattoos and blowing clouds are all some people have going on in life...

you actually know of these type of people?

 

[Bunnykiller]

I have no tattoos and vape moderately but I do have one mean Tesla coil...

 

[James Wilson]

I stand by what I wrote, with regulated mods there's really no need to sub-ohm. It can be done, sure, but no real need to. I commonly vape at 25-30 watts, up to 50w with a dripper. I do use sub-ohm coils, but I don't do so out of necessity but because I prefer 27-28 ga wire. And there's the added benefit that I can use those builds on my mechs if I wish to. But, the point is, I could build higher resistance coils and still vape at 25-30w on my regulated devices (taking into account heat flux and ideal resistance for the used wire gauge at the chosen wattage is a good idea though).

To me if your using sub-ohm coils then your sub-ohming. Your just doing it on a dripper instead of a sub-tank.

 

[Racehorse]

So, same addiction, different delivery method. Yay for us.

I don't know...sometimes, I wonder if all this collective patting ourselves on the back for switching to vaping is a little precipitous.

I think it all depends on the individual and their goal.

For people who transitioned to vaping and plan to continue to vape, they may be looking for an experience that is closer to smoking, and will pursue the technological upgrades.

For me, I thank vaping for getting me off combustibles, but it has always been my personal goal to get off vaping at some point, too, as well as be MUCH KINDER to my throat, esophagus, and lungs in general. As well as spend my cigarette money on another hobby, like horse racing, travelling, etc.

Therefore, for me, and I only speak for myself, I still like 1.8oh-2.2ohm vape and definitely under 8 watts, have zero desire to inhale hot or large amounts of vapor and ejuice, and am very particular about the ejuice I vape and most of the day I vape unflavored because of chemicals. I'm just at an age where I feel my lungs were already compromised by cigarettes, and I am steadfastly committed to doing to them as little as possible, which will soon involve just breathing fresh air.

I do enjoy vaping, and am grateful to the technology which helped me quit smoking though. But it still represents being tied to something, a habit, which is fine, just that I'm slowly replacing that habit with "other habits" like hiking, swimming, working out, etc. which seem more like things I want in my future.

I absolutely ZERO interest in sub-ohming, but happy that it's around for people who like, need and desire it. I don't really care how other people vape ---- they can do what they wish with their bodies, time, hobbies and $$.

 

[Oberon75]

You sit there and talk about people nit picking or not wanting to try the latest and greats out, but how are you any better?

You been vaping what 6 months maybe longer, and it's great that you like what you are doing, but don't tell those of us who have already been through all that we are wrong because we KNOW what we like.

Umm. I'm not talking about everyone but have talked to many people who tried it for maybe a day or two, formed an opinion and never tried again. Most of them aren't even using the right juice and just assume the liquid they use in their Nautilus will work correctly in a Subtank.

And then you have the other group who has never tried it but pass judgement on people who vape in this manner like a holy roller looking down on rock music. I can't count the times I have seen these people enter a sub ohm thread to belittle somebody.

If people have gave it a fair shot and didn't like it, that's perfectly fine. But a lot of people look down on it in a very biased way. If they don't sub ohm or vape high watts, what are they even doing in a sub ohm thread with an opinion?

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[James Wilson]

You sit there and talk about people nit picking or not wanting to try the latest and greats out, but how are you any better?

You been vaping what 6 months maybe longer, and it's great that you like what you are doing, but don't tell those of us who have already been through all that we are wrong because we KNOW what we like.

When I started vaping I knew I liked a cooler vape with more airflow. Also at the time I felt I knew that I didn't need anything other then my aerotank mini. I also thought I knew that I didn't need a more powerful vape. Fact is I knew jack crap. People think they know what they like and sometimes they are right. But they can't be sure they won't like something else if they don't try it. I am glad I took the plunge to sub-tanks. I would have been missing out. Now I accept it isn't for everyone. Just like drippers aren't for everyone. But many won't know it until they at least try it. You can't say you don't like something if you have never tried it. It might not interest you, but you will never know for sure.

 

[cantgetright]

I have the same problem I just got the new mvp3.0 and the Atlantis tank and its to harsh and to hot at 30watts ..does my volts have anything to do with it? I currently cape on 50/50 at 12mgs nic .. Just ordered a 80vg 20pg at 3mg of nic hoping to blow clouds and enjoy the vape