I super sub ohm nickled titanium 1 ga twisted braided omega inverted coil at .000000000000000000000000000000000-1 Im never going back!
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Once you Sub you can't stop
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I do find myself gravitating toward my Subtanks, Billow, or Foggers a little more lately. The Kayfuns continue to be wicked and ready with their 1.2-1.4 coils....but I have to remind myself how to mouth to lung hit.
Running max VG or 80% depends on what flavor I am vaping at the moment. All 3mg. I'm actually gonna lower it again soon or just go 0mg so I can finish up or get closer.
i used to rag on subohmers, but 0.1-0.5 has had the smoothest/flavorful vaping I have experience. I don't do it for the clouds, I'm not sure what EXACTLY it is, maybe its the way the coils heat up, but I can make some setups that dont blow massive clouds int he 0.2-0.3 resistance
(double barrel coils, single coil etc) that just taste way better or give juices a better flavor profile than the 1.0+ohm resistances, for me personally anything over 2.0ohms seems to heat up just too quickly and end up burning the juice, always gives it this strange taste, and when u power it down to try to prevent that, u just dont get that warm nice vapor.
(double barrel coils, single coil etc) that just taste way better or give juices a better flavor profile than the 1.0+ohm resistances, for me personally anything over 2.0ohms seems to heat up just too quickly and end up burning the juice, always gives it this strange taste, and when u power it down to try to prevent that, u just dont get that warm nice vapor.
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I'm the opposite, I have 3 sub tanks sitting here havnt used them in weeks i like my gs air's and my kanger giant better.
Hmmm.
A couple things...
First - I have a "range" that I prefer, and it doesn't go real LOW subohm - and that's based on the kind of big air you need to enjoy real low resistance. I did shift from preferring a really tight draw, to a range where I switch back and forth from a mouth-to-lung on some gear I still use (tanks) to a slightly restricted lung-hit (like a Cyclone w/AFC). But that Cyclone with the AFC open? That is as airy as I like it - and it hums at something like 0.6 and up - lower and it's just too roasty. My favorite atties are often built between 0.7 and 1.0. I have a couple RDA's with more air, but the big air is not my thing. Maybe once in a while I feel like throwing a 0.4 dual on one and blowing a bigger cloud, but not often.
Also, on the nic thing: I don't think most people that quit smoking and started vaping deny a new addiction. It's just that most of us are convinced it is a FAR FAR less harmful addiction. And my personal experience is that it's less STRONG an addiction, too. If I'm in a situation where I can't conveniently vape for 5 hours (like when flying), I don't get anywhere NEAR as irritated and uncomfortable about it as I did when I was a smoker.
Side-note - I think there is a trend to go from less efficient to more and more efficient devices - but it also seems to dramatically level off when someone finds a certain level of satisfaction. Consider all those folks who went from a first device like an Ego, at 18 or 24 mg liquid, and now vape an RDA, at 6 mg. Is the subohm device really 3 or 4 times more efficient at delivering nic? I doubt it - it's just they needed a more powerful experience, and found it, and the nicotine is "enough" to keep them happy. They don't start creeping up the nic level in their RDA, "craving more nicotine"... They play with new devices - maybe keep buying new atomizers to try - but is that an addiction? Or a hobby?
A couple things...
First - I have a "range" that I prefer, and it doesn't go real LOW subohm - and that's based on the kind of big air you need to enjoy real low resistance. I did shift from preferring a really tight draw, to a range where I switch back and forth from a mouth-to-lung on some gear I still use (tanks) to a slightly restricted lung-hit (like a Cyclone w/AFC). But that Cyclone with the AFC open? That is as airy as I like it - and it hums at something like 0.6 and up - lower and it's just too roasty. My favorite atties are often built between 0.7 and 1.0. I have a couple RDA's with more air, but the big air is not my thing. Maybe once in a while I feel like throwing a 0.4 dual on one and blowing a bigger cloud, but not often.
Also, on the nic thing: I don't think most people that quit smoking and started vaping deny a new addiction. It's just that most of us are convinced it is a FAR FAR less harmful addiction. And my personal experience is that it's less STRONG an addiction, too. If I'm in a situation where I can't conveniently vape for 5 hours (like when flying), I don't get anywhere NEAR as irritated and uncomfortable about it as I did when I was a smoker.
Side-note - I think there is a trend to go from less efficient to more and more efficient devices - but it also seems to dramatically level off when someone finds a certain level of satisfaction. Consider all those folks who went from a first device like an Ego, at 18 or 24 mg liquid, and now vape an RDA, at 6 mg. Is the subohm device really 3 or 4 times more efficient at delivering nic? I doubt it - it's just they needed a more powerful experience, and found it, and the nicotine is "enough" to keep them happy. They don't start creeping up the nic level in their RDA, "craving more nicotine"... They play with new devices - maybe keep buying new atomizers to try - but is that an addiction? Or a hobby?
Isn't there? The thing is with me I am finding I prefer sub-ohming. As do a lot of other people. No I don't count those using the 1.2 ohms as sub-ohming. I actually find in my sub-tank it not to taste so good. It makes the flavor far too strong. Could be cause of how they are with higher wattages though. I prefer a smooth and flavorful vape. Not one that is kinda harsh and overpowering. I can't imagine wanting one higher in resistance. That is me though. Everyone is different. It seems though a lot of people like sub-ohming. Look at how many people love the sub-tanks. Many using them on regulated mods. Fact is they don't make sub-tanking obsolute. It instead gives everyone more options. People no longer need to go out and get mechs. Using regulated mods if far safer for newbies and a lot of vapors are finding they like them better. Hell if it wasn't for the advancement of regulated mods, we might not have gotten the Kanger Sub-Tanks or the Atlantis. So they have helped both sub-tank users and users of other tanks. Also remember not everyone is into building their own coils. Those using stock coils on those other tanks are going to find their going to burn up at higher wattages. Though the Kanger Sub-Tank coils actually hold up pretty well and taste great. Of course we tend to use higher wattages for these. Though on most juices I am content with 18 watts. When I get into rebuilding I may start going higher. But of course that like other things with vaping isn't for everyone. Especially the newbies. Technology wise there isn't a better time to be a vapor. We have so many options right now. Even though there will likely always be people who will want mechs, I think regulated mods are the future of vaping and things with them will only get better tech wise no matter which kind of tank you prefer. Though it is hard to imagine the tanks getting better then they already are. But it could still happen too.
I stand by what I wrote, with regulated mods there's really no need to sub-ohm. It can be done, sure, but no real need to. I commonly vape at 25-30 watts, up to 50w with a dripper. I do use sub-ohm coils, but I don't do so out of necessity but because I prefer 27-28 ga wire. And there's the added benefit that I can use those builds on my mechs if I wish to. But, the point is, I could build higher resistance coils and still vape at 25-30w on my regulated devices (taking into account heat flux and ideal resistance for the used wire gauge at the chosen wattage is a good idea though).
These new temperature control mods are changing all that though.
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Very true. I want see someone try to build a 1+ ohm coil with ni200 wire
There's a time and place for everything. It's nice to bust out the RDAs and vape your head off every once in awhile, but I don't see why a person would want to blow clouds as an ADV. Of course, people that do it will justify it by saying they prefer it and that "everyone's different " . To each their own, I guess.
Never mind the batteries and juice you go through.
But hey, everyone's different, right?
....Pun intended.
Never mind the batteries and juice you go through.
But hey, everyone's different, right?
....Pun intended.
Used to prefer subohm, but now that i got a high wattage device, i like the the 1-1.8ohm range, blow big clouds with proper airflow and i like the flavor.
For me, more than a year ago when i started dripping, I still used tanks in conjunction with an rda, but found myself slowly leaving the tanks behind. Currently i drip exclusively. I have to say the delta 2 tank is sweet but i am afraid that if i buy it ill use it for a week and put it down. So i stick to my RDAs. Even more so the last four to five months ive been using a dual 26650 series set up i made, and wow, ill never go back to a single battery. And the great thing about series is i can build to .4-.5 and get amazing flavor and great vapor production!
So, same addiction, different delivery method. Yay for us.
I don't know...sometimes, I wonder if all this collective patting ourselves on the back for switching to vaping is a little precipitous.
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