3 years in the fridge.....that makes me feel more confident in the shelf life.....i might order 1 or 2 more just in case they ban this stuff
one last nic storage question
- Thread starter chrisvapo
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
3 years in the fridge.....that makes me feel more confident in the shelf life.....i might order 1 or 2 more just in case they ban this stuff
. No comment... Not a word outa me. Cause I can't hehe I am right there with y'all but I have MANY vapors in my family so, ummmm, guess I gotta excuse.
Nic Hoarder, naw, not me hehehehe
I have been diy'ing for 3 + years now. Use up ONE bottle, order THREE more. Yeppers, We Got Nic hehehe
Last edited:
quad poly-wrap? What do you mean? What is it, and where do I get it?
Plastic non-rigid shopping bags cut up and folded over twice, wrapped over and down cap and then tightly secured with elastics to the glass neck below the bottom of the bottle cap. (Make sure the top of the elastics are not pushing up against the cap) Then trim with scissors. Saran wrap could work too, just fold it over several times so you don't rely on a single layer. You just want to create a solid no-fail air barrier no matter what could go wrong with the cap.
Last edited:
I don't mean to be a buzz-kill, but 15 months or 15 years, if you can't get more, you can't get more. I do appreciate the advice here or I would not have read it. I will wrap my little bottle up accordingly. Got any plans for when you do finally run out? It will be the same in one year as it will be be in 20, assuming you are young enough to live that long. BTW, do you folks have super-long-term frozen storage power requirements in place? If so, would you consider selling shares in your nicotine storage bunker system? I bet a few vapers would be interested.
Not everything I said was irony, maybe none of it was. My car repairs cost $5000, the fridge died, and the well and cisterns all went dry, all of this in the past week. Stocking up on nicotine concentrate might be the last thing on your mind when the poop hits the fan and sprays all over you life. I hope you have your priorities straight. I'm not kidding, one bit.
Not everything I said was irony, maybe none of it was. My car repairs cost $5000, the fridge died, and the well and cisterns all went dry, all of this in the past week. Stocking up on nicotine concentrate might be the last thing on your mind when the poop hits the fan and sprays all over you life. I hope you have your priorities straight. I'm not kidding, one bit.
Just to be all set. May even quit vaping a year from now and be done with all of it. Not the point though, the fact I'm all set, come what may, I'm all set. Can always sell should it ever come down to that.
Commercial back-up generator.
I knew I should have moved to Canada a long time ago.
Oh snit-shacks, your government is meaner to vapers than mine. I take that back, I'll take 100+ degree summers over your vaping supply issues. Hello World, I didn't realize what you are going though, apologies for my innuendo.
120ml bottles+ foodsaver + priority mail box in the freezer. Remember to label with strength and blend ( 100mg in PG ).
Last edited:
Yep, priorities in check around here. Sorry for all your probs the past week. I have had my share of those weeks, months and years. When they say "it comes in three's" yep, sometimes it comes in 10's. been there, done that.
Those life lessons taught me to be as WELL prepared as I possibly can be for life events and also Mother Nature.
As I said, I have MANY vapers in my family. As of right now, 11 counting myself. What I have in the freezer for normal use and normal purchases the last 3+ years is probably equivalent to 15 years for one person. Hehe
I have 3 times that mylar bagged emergency food for all of them/us, as well as, many other things in place. I may not be 100% prepared for an emergency event. I am sure I have forgotten somethings. however, we all survived 21 days without electricity, water etc after Rita hit with no interventions or assistance. Same with Ike. Not one food item perished in our freezer during this time either. solar energy and generators are a wonderful thing to have in place We are pretty self sufficient here. So, not only nic, but life required items as well.
When the nic is gone, if the FDA gets ugly, we taper ourselves down, just like we have been doing the past year or so, and get to no nic liquid. ALWAYS have a backup plan for your backup plan and then Plan A, B, C, D for that backup plan. It's called being as prepared as you can be for anything in life. I hope others do the same.
Now, back on topic for the OP WE GO. Wrap your caps for an air tight seal. Food saver works wonderful for freezer storage on garden vegetables and other food items, as well as nic.
Store in dark glass bottles. Smaller bottles are better so that you do not expose the nic to air during many openings of the bottle. I use 4 oz'ers to store mine in. It gets used up quickly so there is not alot of opening and closing of the bottle.
Happy vaping folks......
Last edited:
I like the last several posts in this thread.
1. If you use Boston round bottles with Poly-Seal caps the bottles are sealed, period. These caps are designed to provide a positive seal for highly caustic or acidic chemicals in laboratory use. You should not tighten a Poly-Seal cap down as tight as possible. That will damage the seal and possibly cause a leak or prevent re-use. Just snug them down.
2. Two ideas.
A. A plastic seal layer over the entire bottle is overkill. The Poly-Seal cap will do the job.
B. If the Poly-Seal cap is loosened during handling you may have a problem with leakage. Sealing the entire bottle in plastic can't hurt. This would help to prevent accidental turning of the cap during handling or shipping. Plus, the plastic envelope provides some protection against breakage of the bottle.
Choices, either way.
1. If you use Boston round bottles with Poly-Seal caps the bottles are sealed, period. These caps are designed to provide a positive seal for highly caustic or acidic chemicals in laboratory use. You should not tighten a Poly-Seal cap down as tight as possible. That will damage the seal and possibly cause a leak or prevent re-use. Just snug them down.
2. Two ideas.
A. A plastic seal layer over the entire bottle is overkill. The Poly-Seal cap will do the job.
B. If the Poly-Seal cap is loosened during handling you may have a problem with leakage. Sealing the entire bottle in plastic can't hurt. This would help to prevent accidental turning of the cap during handling or shipping. Plus, the plastic envelope provides some protection against breakage of the bottle.
Choices, either way.
A commercial back-up generator won't fix my dead fridge compressor. Or my dry well and cisterns. Yea, it all happened at the same time, and nothing I could have done would have prevented it. Plan ahead all you want, some problems have no civilized solutions. Natural disasters have and will happen, fire, drought, flood, etc. The bunker mentality might just be a dead end, but it is obviously a longer wait before the end. I might have the patience of a thousand cows, but still I prefer to deal with unpleasant situations sooner than later. YMMV.
So, wrap the colored labeled glass bottles in a bunch of layers of plastics and put them in the freezer. I'll do that when my compressor comes in. Sorry for the bitter tone, fate handed me a new one.
Sorry to hear the bad news, Schnarph. Rainfall for Northern California since Jan 1 is the worst in historic record.
That is contrary to the recommendations by several experts I dealt with when subjecting them to freezing temperatures for longer periods of time, people who have been in the refrigeration business dealing with the fisheries for over 30 years.
Anything that is stored for more than 2 years is wrapped in the exact same fashion I delineated upon above.
Last edited:
Honestly, I respect your opinion on this matter and expect to see links to substantiate your claim. Wrapping frozen fish is different from sealing frozen bottles of liquid. Myself, I buy only only frozen wild-caught Alaska salmon, not thawed.
Substantiation I will get for you, since this information came first hand to me by those who freeze various liquids utilizing different containment methods over longer spans of time. I didn't say anything about freezing fish.
Secondly I would never take any recommendation esp. if doubt is involved in any given circumstance that may result in a failure. Err on the side of caution.
You claim the Poly-Seal caps will be Ok by themselves for freezing over longer periods of time. Do me a courtesy and also post a link to substantiate that.
Last edited:
Hello World.... I have done an extensive search regarding the low temperature sealing properties of the Poly-Seal liner (LDPE). I can't find anything. I'm baffled. High temp limit is 176 F, but I can't find a minimal sealing temperature. Any ideas?
Same here. It's the second time I've searched. I'm very critical, as you probably are, of hearsay.
I have the account of 2 people who have bottled off various oils for freezer storage and testing using a specialized machine which a.) threw a polyethylene seal over the cap b.) vacuumed out the air c.) wrapped a rubber-strap around the bottle. They were stored for future sample testing, and I took those advisories to apply them to the nic-base storage. This was abandoned later in lieu of other containers. I trust them, and trust their advisories that no cap can be fully trusted.
There are many claims the poly-seals are completely airtight, but I found a couple of links that made at least a part of the scientific community skeptical about that ... and that's all I need to base my wrapping decisions on ... the shadow of the doubt. And I feel I have far more first-hand substantiation than that:
As for long term storage of standards, we use 1 gallon glass containers with polyseal caps, and a paraffin seal over the top. It allows us to sleep better at night. LISTSERV 16.0 - ISOGEOCHEM Archives
Water isotope samples were collected unfiltered immediately prior to virus sampling in clean, dry, 20-ml glass vials and sealed with a polyseal cap. Paraffin film was used to secure the cap after sample collection to prevent evaporation that can alter 18O/16O and 2H/1H ratios.
http://aem.asm.org/content/70/10/5937.full.pdf
The paraffin is merely another way to ensure on the short-term basis that nothing gets in or goes out. But for 5 - 15 years under freezing conditions ... it would be nice if some data on the net would be available about that.
Last edited:
sorry, i did not have time to click the links to research your above info. I WILL THOUGH.
are you concerned about the polyseal caps breaking down in the freezer after a period of time, therefore becoming ineffective?
if so, if we can not find anything for certain on the polyseal caps long term freezer storage, could we just change the caps out every 6 months? every year? every 2 years? and then place back in the food saver bags?
it should not take too long to change out the caps so no 'thawing' would occur. however, we would get into the opening and closing which would add in the oxygen exposure issue. but then, it would be in a thicker state than normal being that it will be very cold. maybe a quick change of the cap in this 'cold' state would not cause any problems. dunnno
Thoughts anyone...............................................................
Last edited:
I ensure no chance exists oxygen gets in. Some bottles have also been known to cause problems. It goes beyond the scope of any particular concerns.
Every time you take off the caps, oxygen gets in. I'm not sure which is worse ... failed caps or someone changing them.
Once I screw on the cap and apply additional safeguards, there is no second guessing whether oxygen gets in until the day I consume it.
Why take a chance?
Last edited:
- Status
