Opinions on possible first mod

[rygen87]

I have been searching and going through posts for days and I've dwindled it down to this list;

-2 panasonic ncr18650pf 2900mah 10A
-SS smoktech magneto
-Igo w4
-sigelei ohm meter
- dip tip

Also considering a Nemesis or Itaste Svd. But the cheapest place I've seen either is fasttech and I don't know if I want to wait that long to get my new gear.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[dice57]

101Vape had the Hcigar nemi clone for $30, but they sell out quick. Ebay and VapeRoyalty have them. If getting the nemi clone recommend the Hcigar one. Also would be good to get the Evolv Kick 2 to go along with it.

Your link requires a password and such, so can't see it to comment. Copy and paste it to you post if you want input.

 

[Baditude]

I don't know anything about the website; never heard of it.

Concerning the Nemesis or Itaste SVD:

I'd recommend the SVD as a first mod because it will offer many more options than the mechanical mod. You'll have the option to increase or decrease your voltage, the voltage will be regulated by the microprocessor so your vape experience will remain constant and consistant for the entire life of the battery, have built-in voltage and ohm meters, LED screen, and most important built-in protected circuitry against short circuits, over-discharge of the battery, reversed battery protection, automatic timed turn-off, thermal protection, etc.

With the Nemesis being a mechanical mod, you'll have NONE of the above. No adjustable voltage, your experience will be downhill from the point of putting in a fully-charged battery, your vaping experience will be totally dependent upon the battery voltage and the resistance of the juice attachment with no ability to change it. And of course you'll have NO built-in protection. It will be just you and the battery. Your choice in batteries you use will be even more critical as they are always the weak link yet the most important part of your setup. Don't cheap out with the least expensive batteries you can find.

A regulated mod can help keep a noob out of trouble with its built-in protection circuits; a mechanical mod is far more complex and potentially dangerous because of the lack of protection. Always remember that lithium ion batteries are protentially explosive and that you are using your mod within inches of your face every time you use it.

DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF MOD BATTERIES

BATTERY BASICS: IMR OR ICR?

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide


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The Panasonic ncr18650pf 2900mah 10A is a good choice of battery for either a regulated or mechanical mod. Just keep your coils in the amp limit range of 10 amps.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I cut an pasted your full link to see that it's the magneto you're considering? Nice little mod, that. For my money, the hcigar nemmy would be better.

The SVD is a different animal - it's a regulated device, so some advantages and disadvantages with that. You have greater control over power settings plus battery protection and a built-in ohm checker, but an amp limit that will prohibit using RBA's with subohm coils.

Now, if you were to add a kick V2 to the nemmy, you could fire lower ohm coils and have the power adjustment and safety features - essentially the save as the SVD with a greater range of topper builds you could use.

I'd lean towards the nemmy/kick combo, but that's me and it will run you more $$ than either the magneto or the SVD.


Hmmm... why dontcha get all three and report back your findings?

 

[MikeJA]

Also considering a Nemesis or Itaste Svd. But the cheapest place I've seen either is fasttech

Just note that the Nemesis's from fastech are not genuine but counterfeits.

 

[zoidberg29]

I cut an pasted your full link to see that it's the magneto you're considering? Nice little mod, that. For my money, the hcigar nemmy would be better.

The SVD is a different animal - it's a regulated device, so some advantages and disadvantages with that. You have greater control over power settings plus battery protection and a built-in ohm checker, but an amp limit that will prohibit using RBA's with subohm coils.

Now, if you were to add a kick V2 to the nemmy, you could fire lower ohm coils and have the power adjustment and safety features - essentially the save as the SVD with a greater range of topper builds you could use.

I'd lean towards the nemmy/kick combo, but that's me and it will run you more $$ than either the magneto or the SVD.

He makes good points. I like the magnetic switch the Magneto offers but you can apparently a conversion on the Nemesis for the same thing. Still searching for the right magnets to do it with mine

 

[zoidberg29]

Sorry to double post but if you do choose the Magneto you can get it for $35 at atozvaporworld.com with free shipping. Took 2 days for mine to get from Arizona to Indiana

 

[Jp2491]

Nemesis with magnet switch upgrade. Clone for now just waiting to get in on the real deal from atmo.

 

[rygen87]

Sorry about that just edited and put the list in instead

Also you said you recommend the hcigar nemi clone. I thought I saw an hcigar magneto. Or maybe it was just the nemi. Ive been looking at so much they are all mashing together in my brain. But yeah the kick was going to be added later. Was also thinking if I went with the nemi they have the magnets to convert the switch. I like the look of the mixed nemi. So many choices. lol

 

[zoidberg29]

Nemesis Mod Magnet Switch Kit HCigar there's the link for the magnetic switch kit for the nemesis. They also have the hcigar nemesis clone. Would be looking at a little under $60 for just the mod. I might just pick up the magnetic switch kit for my nemesis clone

 

[rygen87]

I do like the idea of the svd being vv/vw for all the additional perks but I also am hesitant because of that. How long do the boards hold up before having to get a new device?

 

[rygen87]

The kick adds protection correct? As well as it being an addon for vv.

 

[merddyn2002]

I went with the Itaste 134 because it's variable and I LOVE the design of the mod and it takes the large capacity batteries. I opted for the Protank 2 initially (got the mini so that it wouldn't look stupid on my old ego). I was suprised at the performance of the iclear30 that came with the mod though and use it in regular rotation as well. I recently upgraded to The Russian 91% with a microcoil and silica wick. It chuck vapor and flavor like nobody's busienss. Wish it was available in polished stainless to match the Itaste 134. The SVD is a good option as well and I've used my buddy's SiD. That's a decent mod too.

 

[rygen87]

Yeah I'm wanting to upgrade from my ego too

 

[rygen87]

Just note that the Nemesis's from fastech are not genuine but counterfeits.

They have clones and ones they say are authentic

 

[rygen87]

So nemi clone + kick v2 + magnet kit = best of all three yeah?

 

[MikeJA]

They have clones and ones they say are authentic

Then they are lying. Fasttech does not sell genuine Nemesis mods, only counterfeits.

 

[rygen87]

Thats good to know. They have good prices and that's why buy I can see waiting two months to save a few bucks

 

[Baditude]

The kick adds protection correct? As well as it being an addon for vv.

So nemi clone + kick v2 + magnet kit = best of all three yeah?

The genuine Kick does indeed offer some protection, regulates voltage (wattage to be exact), and essentially turns your mechanical mod into a variable wattage device.

However, if you're going to go that route, why not just get the regulated VV/VW mod? You asked about the durability of the circuit boards on the SVD. Well, what do you think the Kick is? It is a drop-in regulation circuit board, and a very fragile one at that. Better ask how long a Kick holds up before requiring replacement.

 

[rygen87]

The genuine Kick does indeed offer some protection, regulates voltage (wattage to be exact), and essentially turns your mechanical mod into a variable wattage device.

However, if you're going to go that route, why not just get the regulated VV/VW mod? You asked about the durability of the circuit boards on the SVD. Well, what do you think the Kick is? It is a drop-in regulation circuit board, and a very fragile one at that. Better ask how long a Kick holds up before requiring replacement.

That's a good point but if the kick goes out I would only need to replace that correct?
Or is the kick malfunctioning worst case scenario battery explosion melt your mod and your face fun.
Just looking for the most long term cost effective mod I guess.