ordered an evic today, having trouble finding specifics on battery compatibility.

[erictho]

hey everyone.
i've been pretty dedicated to mechanical apvs for the past year, but decided to try out the vv world with the evic. i did a fair bit of reading on it, and it's an intriguing little device.
i am still not sure what type of battery the kit supplied samsung is? IMR, ICR? which type of batteries are actually compatible with the pv? or is it actually really dedicated to the samsung brand? this information hasn't been specified in any reviews or sites selling the pv i have seen so far. so far it seems to me that different brand batteries of a certain type may be safely compatible with the pv, but i'm not sure what kind.
i have some aw p 18650s without the nipple top already, but i wouldn't want them to be damaged or damage the evic by using them. it is also explicitly stated that unprotected batteries may not be used in the device, but the batteries that come with the kit are unprotected. are they then IMR batteries, and the safe chemistry is assumed to offer enough protection? i noticed another thread like this was made, but this was not stated clearly.
i would hope this information is provided in the manual that comes with the kit, but i have to wait until tuesday to figure that out.
thanks in advance for any insight.

 

[Hello World]

i am still not sure what type of battery the kit supplied samsung is? IMR, ICR? which type of batteries are actually compatible with the pv? ... or is it actually really dedicated to the samsung brand?

The AW IMR 18650 gives the best performance in my experience. In respect to the eVic, the Samsung Li-ion-based on my limited testing delivers around 2.2 amps, the AW IMR around 2.85 amps.

i have some aw p 18650s without the nipple top already, but i wouldn't want them to be damaged or damage the evic by using them.

You are OK on that.

 

[JuiceJug]

I have the evic. The battery is a ICR Samsung flat top. If you've looked at the Panosonic 3400 mah battery thats available for it, its a ICR flat top also. I say just watch the length of the battery and you'll be fine with a number of batteries.

 

[erictho]

sweet! thank you both for the info! now i can use the batteries i have already as well, and maybe try out the panasonics everyone seems to love.

 

[speedjason86]

you can only use flat head without protection circuit.
I am using Panasonic 18650 3400mah green battery.
nipple top might not fit.

 

[wickedws6]

The AW IMR 18650 gives the best performance in my experience. In respect to the eVic, the Samsung Li-ion-based on my limited testing delivers around 2.2 amps, the AW IMR around 2.85 amps.


You are OK on that.

I was under the impression that the eVic was limited to 2.5 amps with the current firmware version. If you don't mind me asking, how did you test the amp limits of the batteries on the eVic? What did you have the voltage or wattage set at on the eVic when you hit 2.85 amps? If you were able to get to 2.85 amps with the AW IMR batteries I might have to pick up a couple of them.

 

[Hello World]

I was under the impression that the eVic was limited to 2.5 amps with the current firmware version. If you don't mind me asking, how did you test the amp limits of the batteries on the eVic? What did you have the voltage or wattage set at on the eVic when you hit 2.85 amps? If you were able to get to 2.85 amps with the AW IMR batteries I might have to pick up a couple of them.

Maybe it is 2.5 amps. But 2.2 is all I saw output.

Pushing 30ga Kanthal on either. I don't recall the spec settings. Not something I noted aside from what the amp values were. Yes, 2.85 showed on the menu screen as delivered amps in terms of voltage, resistance and wattage (all just math). I could not effectively run 30ga without the AW IMRs.

 

[wickedws6]

Maybe it is 2.5 amps. But 2.2 is all I saw output.

Pushing 30ga Kanthal on either. I don't recall the spec settings. Not something I noted aside from what the amp values were. Yes, 2.85 showed on the menu screen as delivered amps in terms of voltage, resistance and wattage (all just math). I could not effectively run 30ga without the AW IMRs.

Do you use the AW button tops or flat top? Where is the cheapest place to buy them?

 

[crxess]

You are getting Battery specs. Not evic output.
AW has higher amp rating and can reach peak output of a device easier. eVic will stop you at 5v no matter what.

 

[erictho]

also, any thoughts on using a 2.4 ohm coil on the evic? i know a lot of charts wouldn't suggest you push 2.4 ohm to 5v, but somehow this doesn't seem too outlandish?
the 2.8 ohm vivi coils aren't available from the vendor i use for this sort of thing. either way by fluke i have nearly 10 2.8 ohm coils on me already.

 

[cricque]

I am using on my vivi 2.4 heads, i use the mvr vv profile, 1 seconds 4v, 0.5 seconds 4.5v, 0.5seconds 4v, 3 seconds 3.8, up till 10 3.7
This gives me a steady and smooth vape, no problems with dry hits, gives a nice throat hit

You can also do this with watts, just requires you to set it up in the software, it's pretty nice. For me it's definitely worth it's money.

 

[erictho]

thanks. i actually took the time to watch a few reviews, and it appears to be smarter than me at this point.
tbh, i kind of wish i had just bought a couple panasonics, the head and body casing separately rather than getting a kit. oh well. sometimes the bigger decision is "should i invest in this" rather than "how should i invest in this".
i'm really excited for its arrival. the evic a really reasonable price for what it offers, and it is modular. i've stayed away from pvs with a circuit board and display screen for a reason, but i can essentially build a back up for the average price of the starter kit. if the control head fails, it's a fair price to replace it. it will be a fun adventure, and it'll be fun to see the different casings that become available.

 

[JuiceJug]

You'll be fine with the stock battery. It lasts me a good 1 1/2 days, and I vape all day long. I also feel its a good deal for everything you get at that price. ICR batteries are protected, and thats what comes with it. I'm lost on the comment about only using IMR batteries, which aren't protected ?

 

[cricque]

1,5 day ? i barely make it through a day during the weekend . AW imr batteries are the batteries with safer chemistry inside. They are not protected, but due to the way they are built, they are safer then regular batteries

 

[Hello World]

ICR batteries are protected, and thats what comes with it. I'm lost on the comment about only using IMR batteries, which aren't protected?

As safe as you'd be vaping with stock Provari batteries. Once you do a genny 30ga Kanthal setup, the difference between the batteries become razor-clear.

Do you use the AW button tops or flat top?

Either one. IMR is the keyword. AW is secondary. I already have the nipple-tops.

 

[erictho]

nooooooo. all day i watched as my evic moved around the city ahead of schedule. then when i got the call that's connected to my suite buzzer i realized i would have to wait to pick it up. it did not fit in my mailbox and it will be ready after 1pm tomorrow for pickup. it's only five blocks away and i can't have it! boo.
but tomorrow will be awesome.

 

[jeffbarrera]

Anything that's 2600 mAh or higher would be great IMO.

I'm currently using a Panasonic flat top 2600 mAh which is working perfectly. But I plan on upgrading to the Sanyo 18650 3500 mAh in the near future.