Ordering my first PV soon!

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Digitaltitan

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Yesterday i hit my quit smoking mark, Yellow Fingers. I want to start out with a slim ecig. Currently i smoke 100's so i like the idea of a longer PV but not a pen style.

I was looking at the Joye 510T im just worried the tank nonsense will be a huge bother.

Anyone have any tips on a good starter PV i really like the EBLU Black and blue look. but apparently the eblus are pretty terrible.

Cant wait to drop the analogs and look foreward to my new friends at ECF

PS: Ive read something about a promo code that gets me a discount and another member a referral. If someone could hook me up that would be epic.
 

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Some people like the tanks. I've never tried a 510 tank but I tried a bunch of the eGo tanks, and they just were not good for me. Weak flavour, weak vapor, weak TH. Didn't like 'em. I don't know if the 510s are any better. Personally though I would look into getting the Volt from Smokeless Image. It's a highly regarded E-cig and quite possibly the best of the slims. Available with an extended 320mAh battery, it's got strong output and the cartos are good, too, and since the Volt is a KR808D-1, you can find replacement cartos all over the place, and if you prefer you can get an 808->510 adapter and use any 510 cartos, too.
 

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Many people started out with the slims, and some have stuck with them. But the majority of users realized the slim e-cigs just don't keep up. When you realize you're carrying around 3-6 batteries with you just to make it through the day, and you see others that only carry one battery that lasts longer than a day, you quickly realize you should've spent your money elsewhere. It's all up to you in the long run of couse, and I'm not gonna recommend you try just one device as there is so much out there that I haven't tried as I found my vaping nirvana 7 months ago and haven't wanted anything else. I will say I use the ego mega (900 mah) batt with boge cartos (less than $2 a piece). No messing with atomizers and cartridges when it's all in one disposable unit that actually tastes good for the cost. As mentioned by bsb, do your research. Check out all the e-cig specific threads to learn the good, bad, and the ugly for all the different e-cigs available. Check out the mod section as well as many people say that once you get a mod, you never go back. You'll find what's right for you, but I would ask that you research before getting a slim bat kit that you may find doesn't work for you. Unless you want to carry around 5 batteries, a usb-passthrough and a personal charging case (this is just for the batteries mind you, doesn't count all the atomizers and cartridges and juices you'll need to carry too). But to each their own.
 

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Slim PVs may not last long, but I'll tell you, when I'm popping out for a quick jaunt -- to the supermarket, a restaurant, or whatever where I'm not going to be gone for more than a few hours, a slim PV is easier to carry around in a shirt pocket with maybe a spare battery. I still take my ProVari on longer trips -- to work and such -- but for quick trips somewhere it's just easier and more comfortable just to pocket a slim and go.
 

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Slim PVs may not last long, but I'll tell you, when I'm popping out for a quick jaunt -- to the supermarket, a restaurant, or whatever where I'm not going to be gone for more than a few hours, a slim PV is easier to carry around in a shirt pocket with maybe a spare battery. I still take my ProVari on longer trips -- to work and such -- but for quick trips somewhere it's just easier and more comfortable just to pocket a slim and go.

True, I can understand the purpose of having a slim as a backup/extra or in your case, when you're just going out real quick and don't want to haul around the bigger PV. But I don't think it would suffice somebody as their one and only PV. The hassle of dealing with small cartridges that you're always filling, short battery life that requires a PCC and/or 3-6 extra batteries, multiple attys if you're using multiple juices, that's just a big hassle. I know, I lived that life for over a year....
 

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True, I can understand the purpose of having a slim as a backup/extra or in your case, when you're just going out real quick and don't want to haul around the bigger PV. But I don't think it would suffice somebody as their one and only PV. The hassle of dealing with small cartridges that you're always filling, short battery life that requires a PCC and/or 3-6 extra batteries, multiple attys if you're using multiple juices, that's just a big hassle. I know, I lived that life for over a year....

Certainly, as your only PV it's not ideal. You'll end up with a collection of at least four batteries (two active units with maybe a couple different flavours, two charging/spares), probably a PCC, etc. But as a first PV I think it's probably a little easier to adjust to, at least at the beginning, when you feel like you want something that more closely approximates the analogs you're giving up or weaning yourself off of. I started with an eGo, mind you, and am glad I did, but form factor wasn't nearly as important to me as battery life. For some, form factor can be important, at least to start off. I'd say it's still worth getting a slim even as your first PV. It's a learning experience at worst, and makes a good backup when you decide you want more battery life between charges and buy an eGo/Riva/Echo or E-Power or something.
 

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Thanks for all the info, i think im gonna go with the volt PV seems like a good battery and a good upgrade platform, my first upgrade being the tornado clear tanks, they look wicked and seem like a great pickup

From my personal opinion, I wouldn't. Although some find them quite agreeable, many (myself included) found that those eGo tank systems (which the Tornado is) were ... underwhelming, to put it kindly. And after you've tried the performance of a Volt, I seriously think you'd be disappointed in the anemic performance of a tank.
 

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From my personal opinion, I wouldn't. Although some find them quite agreeable, many (myself included) found that those eGo tank systems (which the Tornado is) were ... underwhelming, to put it kindly. And after you've tried the performance of a Volt, I seriously think you'd be disappointed in the anemic performance of a tank.

The only other problem with this is that the volt and tornado don't have compatible threads. If I were looking into a device that I might want to upgrade later to a bigger battery, I wouldn't consider the tornado and the volt. I would either go with a small bat 510 and consider the ego later, or go with the volt and consider the kgo or igo or whatever the equivilant is in kr808 threads. Whichever route he/she goes, I would think it would be beneficial to stay within the threading of the original ecig so you wouldn't have to buy all new attys and cartos and chargers and everything else.

And also, while the ego-t may not have been that great for you, it has been great for a number of people (myself not included). So I wouldn't recommend against something unless the vast majority of the population here were in agreement. That's why I'm not saying stick with the 510 instead of the volt ;) I personally think the 510 is a better cig, but wouldn't recommend against something else if that's what the OP really wants.
 
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I like the longer 510 manual batteries. They have 280mah charge and make 128mm ecig with a carto. I use the short manuals too with a PCC from NoSmokeVA.com. I would not buy the 510-T because its charger is incompatible with normal Joye 510 batteries (and will damage them) and because it is hard to find manual 510-T's. The Joye 510 batteries (the small 180mah one and long 280mah one) in manual have a fully sealed metal threaded end - as safe as possible from being damaged or killed by juice leaks. Manuals also make it easier to get a good hit and won't turn on accidentally from wind or vibration. Most people use cartomizers rather than tanks (Boge are the simplest and most popular, and slim ecigs use standard resistance, around 3 ohms). You could buy one 510-T tank atomizer and tanks to try on it (they work on normal 510 batteries, don't need 510-T batteries). And use the normal atty + a drip tip to test juices, and learn to use cartomizers, then decide what you like. By starting with normal instead of T 510 batteries, you will be compatible with normal 510 batteries and not have to worry about only buying T batteries or keeping track of which gets charged in which charger. If you want a slim 510 that is what I recommend.
 
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I'd suggest this kit for $27, some juice and a Drip Tip. Use '5off' without the quotes at checkout for 5% off your order.
510 manual cartomizer kit from smok tech

There are only two things to do, fill the filter-looking thing (cartomizer) with juice and screw it on the battery. Then vape and enjoy. The easier the better when you're first getting started. The Drip Tip goes in place of the rubber plug on the end of the 'filter' (cartomizer). It gives you a better hit and it's easier to pull off when you need to add juice. It's not an absolute necessity but for $2 it's sure worth it to go with whatever kit you choose.

If you want the filters to be pre-filled and not mess with juice yet, you'll spend quite a bit more but it may be worth it to you. SmokelessImage or V4L (.com) have those.

You can make yourself nuts trying to figure out which is the best kit. You'll get good advice here from many. Here's the deal: you'll be buying a 2nd kit soon. When it hits you that you're a vaper not a smoker the need for backups kicks in and you buy extra equipment. Pick one and start vaping. For less than a carton of smokes you'll be adding another kit soon. Congrats on your decision and have fun shopping :)
 

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Does the dual coil 1.25 or 1.5 work with that kit?

No, you can't really use anything below 2.5ohm resistance effectively on a 510, and the lower you go the more you can damage the batteries because the lower the resistance, the more current they try and pull out of the battery at once. That goes (literally) double for dual coils. You need a larger battery like the eGo for those.
 

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Not all 510 kits are 3-piece anymore. The 510 SmokTech kit is a 2-piece, battery and caromizer. That's a key reason I like it, no cartridges to deal with and the leftover supplies will fit on a 510 fat batt upgrade. Also no microphone to mess up the battery and a 12 second cutoff. My first ecig had about a 5-second cutoff. Gosh, that was frustrating.

I saw a kit in deals and steals for $19 that's a KR808D-1 threaded ecig. Worth a peek if you're leaning that direction.
 

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...there are two main types of e-cigs...those with Joye 510 threading and KR-808-1 threading...there's definitely more stuff using 510 threading but the KR-808s are not that far behind...the 510 can come in slimline of fat batt models, generally called the eGo or Riva class...the KR808 are slim line models, look at Smokeless Image, Vapor4Life and BloogWorld for the better models of the 808s(there are others)...for slimline 510s, checkout LibertyFlights or SmokTech...there are many others as well...most of the 510 accessories for the slimline's can be used on the fat batt eGo/Riva/kGos if you wish to upgrade your batts at a latter date(most do)
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