ORGANIC or NATURAL Juice Supplier List

[JustWondering1]

I have this one for the list Junjii juice, they claim 100% natural extracts and no additives.
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I've tried 3 flavors
Sangria - My favorite, has a bright red fruits/wine, citrus flavor with just a hint of brandy. I have considered mixing this with rum or vodka and just drinking it.

Pirate Zombie - Banana Lime and Coconut. Incredible flavor, perfect blend of banana and coconut with just enough fresh lime to add a little zest.

Nuclear Butterscotch - Butterscotch and vanilla. This one was OK, but for me not enough butterscotch. I've had it for 3 weeks, going to let it steep longer, see if the butterscotch becomes more pronounced.

The two fruit flavors have been excellent and are definitely on my buy again list.

Thanks for the scoop on this brand! They look wonderful! I love that you can add extra flavor. I'm going to have to try them some time soon.

 

[nj1001]

Ok, I'll get em added.
Junjii = $16.20/30ml = 54¢/ml (- though today they're 40% off = $9.72/30ml (32¢/ml!))
SFVapery = $22/30ml = 73¢/ml

I actually just placed an order with Junjii after I saw they'll customize your order & I asked for simply raspberry juice. We'll see.
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As for steeping HighBrow - I never steeped mine unless I bought a ton of bottles and those I got to last might have steeped for a few weeks before I got to em. I definitely noticed a difference in flavor from the fresh to cured juices however.
Also, I've seen some swear by their orange de sangre. I tried it and it was definitely very nice, refreshing and pure tasting.
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On a side note, I ordered some diacetyl-free "organic" raspberry flavoring from "nature's flavors" over a month ago and my order is still "processing." I contacted them a couple times and they said they're way backed up, but damn... a month? Since my quest is for simple raspberry juice, I'm 110% confident I'll be able to whip up my own and customize the strength of flavor for next to nothing, given I actually receive the flavorings I ordered too long ago.

Its a shame suppliers aren't all diligently testing their juices for diacetyl and other known harmful byproducts and publicly posting the results on their websites. I think it should be required for sake of disclosure & safety.

 

[nj1001]

In alphabetical order:
I included prices and info available on their PG/VG ratios
Alchemy E-lixirs $20/30ml, $58/120ml (all 100%VG)
Blue Lab Vapors $12/30ml, $24/60ml (60VG/40PG, 80VG/20PG, or "Max VG")
Clouds of Vapor $23/30ml, $37/50ml (no info listed on VG/PG ratios of their organic line)
Dripeez $17.50/30ml +$ for extra flavor (anything from 100%VG to 100%PG)
Free State Vapor $19.50/30ml, $35/60ml (only 100%VG or 50/50)
Guilty Pleasures Organics $18/30ml (only 7 flavors to choose from) (no VG/PG info)
Highbrow Vapor $15/30ml (100%PG, 100%VG, or 70/30)
High Desert Vapes $16/30ml, $64/120ml (only 100%VG or 50/50)
Junjii $16.20/30ml (100%VG, 70% VG or 50% VG) (Willing to customize)
Open Source Vapor $17.50/35ml, $42/125ml, $72/250ml (100%VG or "thinned with ultra distilled water. Willing to customize anything for you)
Sarcastic Fringehead $22/30ml (not customizable, mostly VG but they state they use PG & VG as a base for their juice & claim all is 100% OG)
St. Augustine Organic $25/30ml (100%VG)
Sweet Vapes $17/30ml, $50/120ml (100%vg to 70PG/30VG)
Vape Dudes $15/30, $22/50ml, $40/100ml (anything from 95%VG to 100% PG)
Vaperite $15/30ml, $25/50ml (anything from 95%VG to 100%PG)
Velvet Cloud Vapor $17.90/30ml, $60/120ml ("high VG based")
Velvet Vapors $17/30ml ($18.50/30ml in glass), $24/50ml ($25.50 glass), $39/100ml (100% VG, 100%PG, 100% organic VG, VG/PG blend)
Virgin Vapor $20-22.50/30ml (only 100%VG or 50/50)
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Same list in order from least to most expensive for the most part (I also added the price per ml for each of their size options to better see their price ranks)
Blue Lab Vapors $12/30ml (40¢/ml), $24/60ml (40¢/ml) (60VG/40PG, 80VG/20PG, or "Max VG")
Open Source Vapor $17.50/35ml (=50¢/ml), $42/125ml (=34¢/ml), $72/250ml (=29¢/ml) (100%VG or "thinned with ultra distilled water.)
Vape Dudes $15/30ml (=50¢/ml), $22/50ml (=44¢/ml), $40/100ml (=40¢/ml)(anything from 95%VG to 100% PG)
Highbrow Vapor $15/30ml (50¢/ml) (100%PG, 100%VG, or 70/30)
Vaperite $15/30ml (50¢/ml), $25/50ml (50¢/ml) (anything from 95%VG to 100%PG)
Velvet Vapors $17/30ml (=57¢/ml), $18.50/30ml in glass = 62¢/ml)), $24/50ml=48¢/ml, ($25.50 glass =51¢/ml)), $39/100ml =39¢/ml. (100% VG, 100%PG, 100% organic VG, VG/PG blend)
Sweet Vapes $17/30ml (57¢/ml), $50/120ml (42¢/ml) (100%vg to 70PG/30VG)
High Desert Vapes $16/30ml (53¢/ml), $64/120ml (53¢/ml) (only 100%VG or 50/50)
Junjii $16.20/30ml (53¢/ml) (100%VG, 70% VG or 50% VG - willing to customize for you)
Dripeez $17.50/30ml (=58¢/ml) +$ for extra flavor (anything from 100%VG to 100%PG)
Velvet Cloud Vapor $17.90/30ml (=60¢/ml), $60/120ml (= 50¢/ml) ("high VG based")
Guilty Pleasures Organics $18/30ml (=60¢/ml) (only 7 flavors to choose from) (no VG/PG info)
Free State Vapor $19.50/30ml (=65¢/ml), $35/60ml (=58¢/ml) (only 100%VG or 50/50)
Alchemy E-lixirs $20/30ml = (67¢/ml), $58/120ml (=48¢/ml) (all 100%VG)
Virgin Vapor $20-22.50/30ml (= 67-75¢/ml) (only 100%VG or 50/50)
Sarcastic Fringehead $22/30ml (73¢/ml) (not customizable, unclear VG-PG mix)
Clouds of Vapor $23/30ml (77¢/ml), $37/50ml (=74¢/ml) (no info listed on VG/PG ratios of their organic line)
St. Augustine Organic 5 juices, $25/30ml (83¢/ml), 100%VG
Kind juice Nectar line: $15/15ml (=$1/ml), $25/30ml (=83¢/ml) & Element Drip Collection: $27/30ml (90¢/ml), $40/50ml (=80¢/ml) (All 100%VG)

 

[I'mnotZak]

Here's another to consider. 100% VG.
St. Augustine Organic

 

[nj1001]

Ugh... literally a couple minutes after I updated the list? LOL! Maybe I'll start updating this every week or two to save some headache.

So, St. Augustine Organic 5 juices, $25/30ml = 83¢/ml, 100%VG. Added it to the list.
Seriously though, thank you notZak.

 

[JustWondering1]

I really want to love open source since they're of a high quality, are extremely transparent about their recipes, are totally willing to customize anything at all with any flavors they have and their prices are incredible when buying a large bottle. However, my experience so far is that the flavor isn't strong enough, at least for something which was brewed to order just over a week ago. We'll see how it cures/ages.

So, I placed an order a couple days ago & asked for triple + flavor. They're also pretty quick in terms of receiving an order, brewing it fresh and sending it off.
I really want them to be my next ADV, but so far the flavor is too muted for me. I ordered a custom pure raspberry juice (without the vanilla/cream flavor the raspberry juice on their site has).

Given how flexible they are, I'm confident they'll be it for me once I figure out how much flavor I like added.

Please come back and tell us how the triple flavor juice ends up tasting. I order double flavor on everything I possibly can, and that's even for high pg juices. I looked at Open Source based on your recommendation and it looks very good to me.

 

[nj1001]

Please come back and tell us how the triple flavor juice ends up tasting. I order double flavor on everything I possibly can, and that's even for high pg juices. I looked at Open Source based on your recommendation and it looks very good to me.

I hear ya. I do the same.
I got it bumped to 4% raspberry flavor (-no cream or anything else flavor-wise- just raspberry), 1.2X sweet, thinned for tank. To me it was still WAY weak- but that's without much steeping and a big 120cc bottle. It's actually what got me to look into finding natural/organic flavorings so I could get even more flavor from it. Then I stumbled upon Nature's Flavors and I saw they have Diacetyl free natural and organic flavorings! I was just looking at reviews of theirs and it looks like many complain about their shipping time, but other sites sell their flavoring too. I just ordered a bottle from High Dessert Vapes. Unfortunately it isn't diacetyl free, but at least its something I suppose.

If I were you, when ordering from Open Source, in the instruction/order comment box, let them know how much flavoring you want. 4%, for me was still exceptionally weak. I'd go with 8%? Thing that sucks, is I say that but you don't really know until it arrives and once it does you're stuck with it. I have two 120cc jugs of theirs both of which are too weak for me. Since we both always get double flavor VG/PG whatever, and 4% was weak for me, try 8. Maybe its because I fully customized my flavor to only one ingredient. I will say, some of their other flavors were a lot less weak, but I'd still ask for more.

 

[JustWondering1]

I hear ya. I do the same.
I got it bumped to 4% raspberry flavor (-no cream or anything else flavor-wise- just raspberry), 1.2X sweet, thinned for tank. To me it was still WAY weak- but that's without much steeping and a big 120cc bottle. It's actually what got me to look into finding natural/organic flavorings so I could get even more flavor from it. Then I stumbled upon Nature's Flavors and I saw they have Diacetyl free natural and organic flavorings! I was just looking at reviews of theirs and it looks like many complain about their shipping time, but other sites sell their flavoring too. I just ordered a bottle from High Dessert Vapes. Unfortunately it isn't diacetyl free, but at least its something I suppose.

If I were you, when ordering from Open Source, in the instruction/order comment box, let them know how much flavoring you want. 4%, for me was still exceptionally weak. I'd go with 8%? Thing that sucks, is I say that but you don't really know until it arrives and once it does you're stuck with it. I have two 120cc jugs of theirs both of which are too weak for me. Since we both always get double flavor VG/PG whatever, and 4% was weak for me, try 8. Maybe its because I fully customized my flavor to only one ingredient. I will say, some of their other flavors were a lot less weak, but I'd still ask for more.

I absolutely will ask for 8%. Thank you for the advice. I love to taste, really taste the juice!

 

[I'mnotZak]

Ugh... literally a couple minutes after I updated the list? LOL! Maybe I'll start updating this every week or two to save some headache.

So, St. Augustine Organic 5 juices, $25/30ml = 83¢/ml, 100%VG. Added it to the list.
Seriously though, thank you notZak.

Sorry nj and also my pleasure! I just discovered this line today at a local B&M. I tried, and purchased the Dang Tasty & Pickem Up. Both are very good and taste just as described. The juice is very thick (as expected for 100% VG) and requires high wattage and sub ohm to wick properly. I'm using the Sub Ox Mini, 0.5OCC @38W. No wicking issues with great taste and vapor production. They drip very nicely. The Pickem Up is a very rich, spot on Tiramasu including the classic lady finger flavor.

 

[nj1001]

Well being the second most expensive supplier on the list, I'd hope it would be an amazing juice! Lol

 

[Papi Tortuga]

Funny how Virgin Vapor ,as soon as they got big,cut customization on their EJuice. Love em bit flavors are so weak. Hopefully someone starts a petition LOL.

 

[drysprocket]

Funny how Virgin Vapor ,as soon as they got big,cut customization on their EJuice. Love em bit flavors are so weak. Hopefully someone starts a petition LOL.

They've been on my list of vendors to try forever, and right when I finally am about to try them...they go 100%VG? I'm just at a loss.

 

[Papi Tortuga]

They've been on my list of vendors to try forever, and right when I finally am about to try them...they go 100%VG? I'm just at a loss.

Yes what they have in pg left is on sale. After that VG only,no hardware,just Juices. When u go on main site select Absolute Line. Or make sure u put a note u want Absolute Line,No Alcohol in it (if u get one with Ethyl Alcohol takes forever to steep. My favorites are Singing The Blues, Romancing the Strawberry, Razzmatazz, BUT many are very good.

 

[Vapntime]

Check out NicVape E-Flavors Dark Raz Flavor nj. DA/AP independently tested. They have had some bad reviews re taste, however I've tried a few and they seem OK. The dark raz is very good IMO. I don't think they are organic or natural but they have been developed for vaping only.

 

[Papi Tortuga]

Check out NicVape E-Flavors Dark Raz Flavor nj. DA/AP independently tested. They have had some bad reviews re taste, however I've tried a few and they seem OK. The dark raz is very good IMO. I don't think they are organic or natural but they have been developed for vaping only.

Organic only. Dont think they are.

 

[nj1001]

Check out NicVape E-Flavors Dark Raz Flavor nj. DA/AP independently tested. They have had some bad reviews re taste, however I've tried a few and they seem OK. The dark raz is very good IMO. I don't think they are organic or natural but they have been developed for vaping only.

Thank you! Good looking out! Definitely just placed an order. They don't claim to be organic or natural, but they are "Diacetyl & Acetyl Propionyl (2,3-Pentanedione) FREE".

 

[sparkky1]

Thank you! Good looking out! Definitely just placed an order. They don't claim to be organic or natural, but they are "Diacetyl & Acetyl Propionyl (2,3-Pentanedione) FREE".

The reason they test no trace for diketones is because they don't use natural flavoring, do you actually believe that natural / organic ejuice is safer / better for you ?

 

[nj1001]

You realize that there's a difference between the term "organic" as it relates to organic chemistry (i.e. pertaining to carbon) and something which is USDA organically certified (i.e. without the use of pesticides, etc.) Both of the mentioned chemical flavor additives are organic compounds (meaning that their molecular structure heavily relies on carbon as a structural base). They can also occur in nature, but it doesn't mean that they in and of themselves are remotely considered USDA organic. They are artificial flavorings often added for creamy, buttery, nutty, etc flavor.

Unnaturally flavored juice most certainly can contain diketones. Diketones are not something unique only to natural or organic flavored juice. Diketones can be naturally occurring like in the process of fermentation, byproduct from culturing pasteurized dairy products, etc. It can also be used was a base for various chemicals.

Vaping is relatively new and there's more unknown than is known about potential effects. As more research is conducted, we are learning more and more. The hazardous effects of these trace chemical compounds found in some e-juice were identified in recent studies and concluded that since they were flavor additives, that they simply shouldn't be added into juice we vape.

I started this thread because I was sick of wasting money on artificially tasting juices trying to mimic the flavor of something natural. Some might prefer the artificial flavoring and thats cool.

Do I fear bioaccumulation of NON-USDA organic substances in my food or e-juice? Eh, probably not as much as some, but I think its smart to avoid if at all possible. I realize we introduce nasty substances into our bodies every time we breathe, take a drink of water, etc. as a result of countless pollutants in our environment and foods and this has also be published in studies. There's probably all kinds of harmful things we expose ourselves to that we're not yet aware of. But you're right, at this point, I don't think anyone truly knows 100% whether natural/organic or not is better or worse, all of the above or none, until research prove it one way or the other. What my gut tells me could be wrong, but we won't know until evidence emerges.

 

[nj1001]

Sorry for the lengthy rant y'all.
Also, for the record, I ordered that not organic juice flavoring because it was free of those chemicals and hopefully won't taste like some fake artificial crud based on a recommendation.
My quest has been for a good natural tasting flavor and yes, I'd like to avoid harmful chemicals at the same time. I think we can have our cake and eat it too in this case. I just wish it was mandatory for all juice companies to send samples of their juices into an unbiased lab and allow their results to be publicly posted prior to selling them. I'm sure Diketones could pop up in some surprising places and they would not show up in many more. Its also why, despite all the cream, custard and yogurt flavors being all the rage, I probably won't try any until I hear they came up clear of those additives.

 

[sig-cmt]

So I ordered some Highbrow Cinnamon 20/80. Requested extra flavor after reading reviews which seemed to indicate that the standard mix was a bit soft. I can barely take a half hit before the cinnamon starts incinerating the back of my throat. Deep, authentic cinnamon flavor on inhale. Not a fan of the exhale (tasted of undercooked ears of corn). Hoping that time can mellow out the mix because this one is way too hot out of the mailbox. Easily the most powerful concoction in my cabinet full of juices.