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We did a first look on this on Vapelink... and while I don't have one (yet) the reaction to the one that Mike showed on the show was pretty *meh*.
At face value all three of us were kinda disappointed. Ovale/joyetech has a pretty good reputation for putting out a consistently decent product. This release is looking a little iffy.
We think the eVic will be one of those devices that will have to be reviewed at least 3 times. Once for each revision of the firmware.
It's kinda brilliant on Ovale/joyetech's part to make the unit firmware-upgradable. Everytime there is a new firmware there will be new buzz.
As the firmware gets better it may bring more people off the fence to make a purchase. But it might drive customers away too.
This isn't as easy to figure out as the eGo twist.
At face value all three of us were kinda disappointed. Ovale/joyetech has a pretty good reputation for putting out a consistently decent product. This release is looking a little iffy.
We think the eVic will be one of those devices that will have to be reviewed at least 3 times. Once for each revision of the firmware.
It's kinda brilliant on Ovale/joyetech's part to make the unit firmware-upgradable. Everytime there is a new firmware there will be new buzz.
As the firmware gets better it may bring more people off the fence to make a purchase. But it might drive customers away too.
This isn't as easy to figure out as the eGo twist.
Why would it drive customers away? You have control over what firmware version you use. If you don't care for the new features then don't upgrade. If you don't like a new version of the firmware, you can downgrade to an older version.
There's a good portion of folks who like simplicity. Just saying. I don't mind doing firmware updates- but I'm a grisled old systems engineer.
There's also the issue that the MVR software runs all the time because it installs a driver. Which means MVR is running on the computer all day, in the background. Then when you plug in the eVic... it pops up a screen. It would have been preferable to be a standalone application which you launched when you needed it.
The other issue, which I'll test- is if this software "phones home". In other words... are your name (You can put your name in the device through the software) and vaping statistics sent back to Ovale Korea?
It's not just about features. This is being connected to a computer with a driver running.
Oh... note: Mine just dropped in the mail box about an hour ago. So I do have one in my hands.
A lot of what you said I agree with, but I don't see how any of those points address your assertion that new firmware will drive away customers.
I don't even want to get into the support issues when the MVR software malfunctions and the non-computer savvy eVic user can't get support.
I get that, but why would those people buy the eVic in the first place? This isn't a product for "non-computer savvy" vapers. There are plenty of uncomplicated 18650 mods available. A person that buys the eVic understands that improved performance through firmware updates is one of the product's key features. I still don't understand why you think that new firmware would drive away eVic customers.
Anyway, I'll just drop the discussion.
A couple other reasons (for now at least): iOS & Unix/Linux. It's a bit of a bummer for me cuz I really do want one.
I would also repeat this (post #431)
Now that more people here have them perhaps they could double check the things he points out and let us know the results.
I think being able to upgrade the firmware is a real plus or possibly being able to mod your mod at some point (like CyanogenMod for droid devices) would be even better. I know this type of device isn't for everyone but I can't wait to get a hold of one and maybe peek under the hood a little bit. Is Ovale the only place to get evic's from?
Until the first of the Dec 20-? Ovale has exclusivity.
You know there are a gajillion versions of uBuntu and Red hat... Every one LOVES that!
You know there are a gajillion versions of uBuntu and Red hat... Every one LOVES that!
That's why I'm confused by what you said. If they won't buy it in the first place then how does new firmware "drive customers away?" Additional firmware updates have no impact on those customers.
When you "drive customers away"- it means they are not buying your product.
Looks like the evic design in the Future of designs for Joye. Here is the new replacement mod head for the 18650 mod tube
Not available for sale or pre-order but will only be $11.00
New Flat Joyetech eGo-T 2 upgrade battery MOD control unit + 510-eGo adapter - Joye eGo-T spare parts Heaven Gifts
Not available for sale or pre-order but will only be $11.00
New Flat Joyetech eGo-T 2 upgrade battery MOD control unit + 510-eGo adapter - Joye eGo-T spare parts Heaven Gifts
New firmware updates have nothing to do with that. The other reasons you gave made much more sense, but you've yet to explain how firmware updates drive away customers that aren't buying in the first place.
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