I also have been told that the evic head itself may be available separately.
Looks to me like the accessories for this will be aplenty!
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I also have been told that the evic head itself may be available separately.
Looks to me like the accessories for this will be aplenty!
Ok- so I've been using mine for a few hours... here's some basic observations.
1. Output voltage is unstable, but generally within .2 volts- usually on the low side. Tested up to 5 volts. This is a VERY cursory report since the tests were not repeated multiple times. The unit does register voltage on a standard inline meter.
2. The "Rocker Ring": It's a little cumbersome, more so than the Provari button push routine. But there are a great deal more functions involved with the eVic.
3 Screen: Nice in indoor lighting. Next to useless in the car with the sun out.
4. Menu System: Seems cumbersome. It's nice to have the date and time available through the unit. Not so nice to not have it on the main display. Checking atty ohms is nice (once you get there) the mode stays running until it times out- you may have enough time that you may be able to check multiple atties. Does not *fire* when checking ohms- acts more like a multimeter with very low current (safe to check dry equipment).
4. Software runs as a service under Windows 7, unit has it's own driver. Software is always running. Plugging in the unit causes the software to connect and display a "charge or configure" screen. Changing USB ports caused the software to not recognize the unit. Need to find out if the software is phoning home to Ovale delivering the statistics it gathers.
5. Vape: It vapes quite well at the settings I usually use (4.1-4 @ 3.0 ohm).
6. Battery included is a Samsung ICR cell.
It will take the weekend to put together everything I have to say about the eVic. And that's just the face value stuff. We'll probably cover it on Vapelink and there will be a flood of reviews (Including a possible first look from me).
Remember not to buy into any hype surrounding this or any device. If you like reviews... look at a bunch of them before you spend your cash.
Caveat Emptor
1. Output voltage is unstable, but generally within .2 volts- usually on the low side. Tested up to 5 volts. This is a VERY cursory report since the tests were not repeated multiple times. The unit does register voltage on a standard inline meter.
2. The "Rocker Ring": It's a little cumbersome, more so than the Provari button push routine. But there are a great deal more functions involved with the eVic.
3 Screen: Nice in indoor lighting. Next to useless in the car with the sun out.
4. Menu System: Seems cumbersome. It's nice to have the date and time available through the unit. Not so nice to not have it on the main display. Checking atty ohms is nice (once you get there) the mode stays running until it times out- you may have enough time that you may be able to check multiple atties. Does not *fire* when checking ohms- acts more like a multimeter with very low current (safe to check dry equipment).
4. Software runs as a service under Windows 7, unit has it's own driver. Software is always running. Plugging in the unit causes the software to connect and display a "charge or configure" screen. Changing USB ports caused the software to not recognize the unit. Need to find out if the software is phoning home to Ovale delivering the statistics it gathers.
5. Vape: It vapes quite well at the settings I usually use (4.1-4 @ 3.0 ohm).
6. Battery included is a Samsung ICR cell.
It will take the weekend to put together everything I have to say about the eVic. And that's just the face value stuff. We'll probably cover it on Vapelink and there will be a flood of reviews (Including a possible first look from me).
Remember not to buy into any hype surrounding this or any device. If you like reviews... look at a bunch of them before you spend your cash.
Caveat Emptor
A couple questions I would like answered:
1) will it drive a 1.6ohm atty at 5 volts? (3 Amp)
2) will it operate if the air temp is above 35C?
It's not about the firmware, he's saying the device is just to complicated for novice users, therefore they won't buy it, therefore Joytech looses a portion of the market we think they were aiming this at.
Think for a moment, you are a newbie walking into a b&m and the salesman is shoving this down your throat. After watching all that is needed to just set it up, how interested are you in vaping now?
Say you have some experiance and order one then go through all the BS and tire of it?
Either case, most will be happy to go back to an EGO again!
It seems they made this for the advanced vapor user, which isn't their target market, and it won't fit in there until a major firmware adjustment is made.
This is something you want anyone to be able to pick up and use easily, or be able to run with the big dogs out of the gate!
Initial ECD meter results (done by sensefield on our show) suggest a 2.3 amp limit for *anything*.
If you do the math this unit isn't really suited for loads lower than 2 ohm (and that is stretching it to 2.5 amps at 5 volts). Personally I would not recommend anything below 2.2 ohm (which would give you roughly 2.2 amps at 5v against 2.2 ohms- 11.3 watts.
This is not a low resistance/high current device.
And it definitely doesn't run with the big dogs.
A revision 1 Provari has a higher amp limit (And voltage capability). So does the Lavatube and Kick. And those devices aren't even considered "big dogs" anymore.
BUT- for low wattage vapers looking for regulation and features- this device might be a good choice.
That's a far smaller segment of the market. I know this because I happen to be a low wattage kinda guy. And I'm so lonely!!!
And no- I'm not endorsing this device at this point. I'll use it for at least 2 weeks to a month before I have a definite opinion.
I'm also a low wattage guy, so this device seems great. I like my high-resistance coils!
Great!! That's two. If we get three we should start a support group!!
I agree with that. I was just trying to figure out what he meant by firmware updates keeping users away. That made no sense to me.
Are you saying I wouldn't be able to use a 1.5 ohm atty or even maybe a 1.0 ohm atty? My question for this device is: Does it have low ohm protection?
BTW: I bought the Sigelei Zmax clone and I'm not using it because it can't take/detect the low ohm coils that I use in my RBA due to low ohm protection. I saw an Italian review of the EVIC and on the computer (Evic software) review of the video the lowest ohms I had seen were 1.7
I have no idea what that guy was sayin in the vid because I don't speak Italian.
Bear in mind I'm still testing.
With a 2.2 amp limit, whether the unit errored or not, I have a hard time believing all but a minority low resistance users would find it useful (<2.0 ohms)
I'm just curious to see how low of an ohm you can put on the Evic and how it reads. Maybe it will say 1.0 ohm. Or maybe it will give you an error message. IDK, since I don't have one in hand.
The lower the ohm the less battery power you can use. I'm a single coil, low ohm guy myself.
The lower the ohm the less battery power you can use. I'm a single coil, low ohm guy myself.
I dont see how they could have put this thing out with only a 2.2 amp limit. I use dual coils pretty much exclusively so i assume it wont work for me. Unfortunately i have one on the way. Guess i have to get some single coils just to even try it.
.I was using one yesterday with a 2.0 ohm dual coil and it was vaping fine.
I'm going to look into packaging it up with WineBottler. It's setup as more of a driver, but I'll give it a shot.
Otherwise, I'll setup a VM for it on my mac.
Good to know, thanks. I have a few packs of 2.5s right now so they should be ok then. Someone else posted that their dual coils were useless on the evic. May have been 1.5s then. He didnt mention.
The way I see it, they (Ovale / JoyeTech) are attempting to break into a new market segment with this device. You're quite right by saying it won't compete with the current high end line up such as the GG, Carvella, etc. for those in the collector segment, or the Provari or Kicked Silver Bullet for those in the high quality segment. I honestly do believe there is an untapped market for what some might call "gimmick" type devices, and we're just starting to see movement into that area with APVs.
If you think about it, how many people do you know who purchase the latest iPhone every time there's a revision, and all they tend to do is text and email (and maybe play Angry Birds)? These types of devices should have a strong appeal to new vapers who are part of that latest-tech consumer group, and they're likely just going to get better as the technology evolves.
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