overcoming PG taste

[shanobi187]

Hi all, I was trying to avoid posting a new thread, but after 18 pages of searching i still haven't found my answer. Last night I got my DIY kit and started tinkering with a simple cinnamon roll recipe. I only used PG and VG with no nic and the cinnamon roll flavoring so as not to waste the good stuff on tinkering. I followed the recipe (e-juice me up) and I could still taste a fairly potent PG taste. I started the whole thing by dripping pure PG and VG on my brand new LR atty so i could get a sense of the taste for each by itself and then vaping it off so it didn't effect the finished product. When I had finished mixing i wanted to try it right off the bat (impatient noob), shook it for about 5 mins, and let it sit in hot water for 10 minutes. My question is: Does the PG taste lessen when the liquid has steeped for an approriate amount of time or is that part going to stay the same potency regardless of steeping? Should I then use a higher percentage of VG to counteract the PG taste? Sorry if this has been covered, I really did look before posting. thanks in advance.

 

[Hoosier]

Sorry but my PG has so little flavor that the shadow of a mouse fart 3 miles away can mask it. My VG has a bit more base taste.

I've never mixed to mask my base.

 

[shanobi187]

thanks for the reply, i'll just keep tinkering

 

[~Shado~]

I am same as Hoosier....my bases have no real noticeable flavor by themselves other than VG being a bit more sweet.

 

[pico]

I vape straight PG or VG whenever I get a new bottle to make sure its tasteless. So far, they have so little taste, its not detectable by me. Not sure what you got or are tasting.

 

[r77r7r]

I'm new, but all my PG's have a smell that's stronger than the flavor. I really don't like it, and am switching suppliers. If the bases are indeed tasteless, then I guess it's the brand of flavoring used??
I don't need anything complicated myself, just ANYTHING so I can continue vaping- I'm back to analogs now.
I'd be very happy with something that tasted like a Tic-Tac, or candycane.


TY, Bob

 

[Godzilla]

I hear that you need to get a PG that is near 100% pure, like say 99.5% or more, and that will have less of a taste (get it from a pharmacy?) maybe someone will chime in, but that is what I heard, or think I heard

 

[shanobi187]

Thanks all, i think it may have been the flavoring that i was using. I made a new batch with different flavoring last night with just pear as my flavor and two drops of EM and it turned out great! I am now thoroughly addicted to DIY, and yes, i do feel like a mad scientist, lol. Back to the drawing board (and on to a different manufactuer) for the cinnamon roll. thanks for the help though, it's always good to know i can come here and get an answer to a question i have.

 

[Krythis]

I've always used 99% USP grade PG with no noticeable taste. VG on the other hand was an issue for me. I used to use a generic VG from Rite Aide that had a bit of a rank smell to it. A month or so ago I started using Now Solutions VG. Now's VG is MUCH cleaner tasting and I highly recommend it over the pharmacy brands.

 

[Krythis]

Thanks all, i think it may have been the flavoring that i was using. I made a new batch with different flavoring last night with just pear as my flavor and two drops of EM and it turned out great! I am now thoroughly addicted to DIY, and yes, i do feel like a mad scientist, lol. Back to the drawing board (and on to a different manufactuer) for the cinnamon roll. thanks for the help though, it's always good to know i can come here and get an answer to a question i have.

Not all flavorings are created equal. What brand are you using?

 

[shanobi187]

It was DIYflavorshack, but I blame myself not her flavorings, It might have been too much cinnamon roll, or the fact that I added a little banana in there. I only say this because I don't have enough evidence to say her flavors are bad by any means. her pear is awesome and I haven't tried the others and I would never slander someone's product before knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was there product and not my ignorance of mixing. the latter is certainly more likely

 

[Krythis]

It was DIYflavorshack, but I blame myself not her flavorings, It might have been too much cinnamon roll, or the fact that I added a little banana in there. I only say this because I don't have enough evidence to say her flavors are bad by any means. her pear is awesome and I haven't tried the others and I would never slander someone's product before knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was there product and not my ignorance of mixing. the latter is certainly more likely

Not looking for slander or a flame war, just trying to help you troubleshoot. I've only used LorAnn and now Perfumer's Apprentice so I cannot comment on DIYFlavorShack's product. Play around with the amount of flavoring, cinnamon is usually a strong flavor I think. Most juices I personally prefer around 3-5% flavoring, but others require higher amount such as scubabatdan's strawberry cheesecake recipe that calls for 10% and is very tasty.

 

[shanobi187]

Not looking for slander or a flame war, just trying to help you troubleshoot. I've only used LorAnn and now Perfumer's Apprentice so I cannot comment on DIYFlavorShack's product. Play around with the amount of flavoring, cinnamon is usually a strong flavor I think. Most juices I personally prefer around 3-5% flavoring, but others require higher amount such as scubabatdan's strawberry cheesecake recipe that calls for 10% and is very tasty.

strawberry cheesecake does sound very tasty, I only have a few flavors to tinker with right now, i'm looking to order a bunch more to expand my options and am going to have to continue searching the DIY thread for what flavors are essential to any DIYer. I'm assuming a large part will be to personal tast obviously, but there must be some that are used a lot in different flavors. I already have EM so i have that covered but I know there has to be some that our generically used like a bread flavoring for bakery style juices. thanks for the help Krythis!

PS, I never thought you were looking to slander anyone, i'm just extremely cautious when naming names in a negative light.

 

[Krythis]

Look for a copy of the ejuce_calculator spreadsheet. There's a recipe tab where DIY'ers submitted recipes and they say specifically which manufacturer and percentage to use. I have ejuce_calculatorv3.xls and ejuce_calculatorv13.xls, don't remember where I found them but I believe subabatdan put it together.