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I am very very new to the world of vape but currently scared to us my coolfire 4 i was using 20 to 40 watt coil moved up to 30 to 70 and got two tanks no matter which i attach after a few draws maybe too deep, the atomizer( which i think is the bit on the bottom where the coil gets fitted ) starts over heating and its very hot to the touch im worried im doing something wrong or there may be a fault one tank has a 50vg abd other a 90 i know to wait up to 30 secs between for the 90 its also taking a while to produce vapour between 3 to 5 secs before i start getting much please help me
 

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No, should not be hot to the touch.
What is the resistance of the coil? Material?

Replace with new coil,,PRIME, start at lower watts & move up slowly..


I always prime i dont want to inhale that first time burnout haha coil is0.5 ohm and 30-70 watt new yesterday got 50 50 juice in at the min and still alot of heat i stoppedsmoking and started vape and its not working atm cravings like crazy while i cant get a draw machine only goes to 40 watts and started on 30 when putit in
 

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Hi and welcome,
What tanks/coils are you using? Brand/model/coil material?

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Im not sure how to find coil matts but isub ohm tank and ato coil is 30 70 watt 0.5 ohm but i have two tanks with diff coils in i have attached both and they over heat the other tank is still isub but apex 5 bvc coil and 70 vg juice in it but they both overheat thats whats getting me just tried again and got little to no vapour too gonna stop using it im afraid its gonna take my face off soon
 

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I found Isub coils only handle 22.5 watts. Think you are trying to turn up the heat to high. Just because a coil has best between watts rating it does not mean that the watts can go that high. Their are variables and ratings are kinda like the perfect storm. My .5 Isub coils say 20 to 45 watts. .2 coil is from 20 to 50 watts. Lack of juice makes a tank get hot. Isub should product a good amount of vapor at 22.5 watts. CHEERS!
 

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There are a couple things to consider here.

As soon as we press the fire button we are generating heat, enough to vapourize liquid.

If airflow is restricted the device will heat up quicker than if there is plenty of cooling air passing through the coil.

Some tanks are beefier than others. More metal means better heat dissipation. They will be warm-hot but cool off faster.

If the device is being used too frequently the heat will not dissipate fast enough and will build up over a short period of time. The only answer I know of is to have a second set-up to rotate through so neither device gets too hot.

A certain amount of heat is perfectly normal and should be expected imo. Cheers.
 
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I found Isub coils only handle 22.5 watts. Think you are trying to turn up the heat to high. Just because a coil has best between watts rating it does not mean that the watts can go that high. Their are variables and ratings are kinda like the perfect storm. My .5 Isub coils say 20 to 45 watts. .2 coil is from 20 to 50 watts. Lack of juice makes a tank get hot. Isub should product a good amount of vapor at 22.5 watts. CHEERS!
I will set it to 20 now and try that ty
 

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There are a couple things to consider here.

As soon as we press the fire button we are generating heat, enough to vapourize liquid.

If airflow is restricted the device will heat up quicker than if there is plenty of cooling air passing through the coil.

Some tanks are beefier than others. More metal means better heat dissipation. They will be warm-hot but cool off faster.

If the device is being used too frequently the heat will not dissipate fast enough and will build up over a short period of time. The only answer I know of is to have a second set-up to rotate through so neither device gets too hot.

A certain amount of heat is perfectly normal and should be expected imo. Cheers.

I usualy have air duct fully open and cant really afford a second set up atm but tryin leavin whats at 20 for a while see if it heats but its not intant heats its taking near 2.5 seconds ir more before wind up
 

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I found Isub coils only handle 22.5 watts. Think you are trying to turn up the heat to high. Just because a coil has best between watts rating it does not mean that the watts can go that high. Their are variables and ratings are kinda like the perfect storm. My .5 Isub coils say 20 to 45 watts. .2 coil is from 20 to 50 watts. Lack of juice makes a tank get hot. Isub should product a good amount of vapor at 22.5 watts. CHEERS!

But on the 30 70 shouldnt it at least run 30 without tthe extra external heat?
 

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$1.81 Iwodevape 510 Heat Dissipation Heat Sink for Atomizers - authentic / stainless steel / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

These work pretty well if you vape at higher wattages.

I have found personally that high wattage and high VG tend to ruin prefabricated coils because the juice is too thick to wick fast enough to keep up with the demand, resulting in (at best) no/little vapor or (at worst) burnt cotton. This is not universal and you can vape at high wattage with high VG but you would need to wait longer periods of time between draws to allow the juice to soak back into the wick.
 
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$1.81 Iwodevape 510 Heat Dissipation Heat Sink for Atomizers - authentic / stainless steel / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

These work pretty well if you vape at higher wattages.

I have found personally that high wattage and high VG tend to ruin prefabricated coils because the juice is too thick to wick fast enough to keep up with the demand, resulting in (at best) no/little vapor or (at worst) burnt cotton. This is not universal and you can vape at high wattage with high VG but you would need to wait longer periods of time between draws to allow the juice to soak back into the wick.


My new tank is running 70 vg atm my smaller one is a 5050 blend i might try putting 5050 in big tank to see but they are both over heating spose i could be over heating by taking draws to faston high vg then
 

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My comment was more of a personal preference based on the coils you use with the juice you like. I don't believe that it has anything to do with "overheating".

Atomizers will get hot. This is why I posted the link for a heat sink/heat dissipation connector. They work well for dispersing the excess heat. The more power you try to push in to an atomizer the hotter it will get all over. Think of a full parking lot with only one exit and you've just told everyone to evacuate all at once. Only so many cars can exit at a time and then there is congestion at the exit. Translate to heat. Coils are heated due to their resistance for the flow of electrons. Only so many "get through" and the rest build up at the "entrance" causing a build up of energy. This energy is perceived as heat. The Heat sink that I posted a link to gives the excess heat a vessel for a more even dispersion and quicker dissipation.

If you are vaping at high wattage(for me I find above 40W the atty starts feeling a bit hot after a draw) then your atty is bound to take on some of that energy and want to release it in the form of heat.
 

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I should also mention that while some heat is normal/expected, if the atomizer is not producing vapor and is getting too hot too fast, then there could be a problem with a connection somewhere. Either at the 510 connection to the mod or the coil itself may not be properly connected. This could lead to bigger issues if not addressed. Check to make sure that the connection between the atty and the mod are clean and making a good connection and check to ensure that your coil is installed properly making a proper connection as well.
 

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I should also mention that while some heat is normal/expected, if the atomizer is not producing vapor and is getting too hot too fast, then there could be a problem with a connection somewhere. Either at the 510 connection to the mod or the coil itself may not be properly connected. This could lead to bigger issues if not addressed. Check to make sure that the connection between the atty and the mod are clean and making a good connection and check to ensure that your coil is installed properly making a proper connection as well.



Iwas in theshop yday and the guy took it apart cleaned it and put back together with new coil and was primed my mech goes up to 40w im running on 20 coil is 30 to 70w and im taking same draws i took before so only change really is coil i just feel over welmed and in need of a smoke now haha thank you all for your help btw
 

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"Mech" refers to mechanical mod. The Cool Fire 4 is an internal battery regulated device.

There is a lot of information to be absorbed when you first start vaping. Its hard to say if the heat you're experiencing is normal or excessive but I say again that some heat is expected in any atomizer near the connection. If you were having more success with the other coils then I recommend switching back.
 

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"Mech" refers to mechanical mod. The Cool Fire 4 is an internal battery regulated device.

There is a lot of information to be absorbed when you first start vaping. Its hard to say if the heat you're experiencing is normal or excessive but I say again that some heat is expected in any atomizer near the connection. If you were having more success with the other coils then I recommend switching back.


I think i might and when i said mech i only meant in mechanical term meaning the machine didnt want mods as afraid i didnt know what was compatable with what yet. The batt just died anyway might leave it that way till i can get a fix for it charged over night
 
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