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Cptfunpants

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I have a couple coworkers that smoke. Would it be out of line to purchase them a ego or some form of starter setup for Christmas? One of them is my boss. Don't want it to seem judgmental. Outside of this I honestly would not buy either of them a gift but it would be a somewhat practical gift. Thoughts? If you think I should go through with this what do you recommend I get? Is an ego starter kit good enough? Straight up 3.7v, my first device was a twist so I'm not sure if a non vv device would suffice.
 

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I have a couple coworkers that smoke. Would it be out of line to purchase them a ego or some form of starter setup for Christmas? One of them is my boss. Don't want it to seem judgmental. Outside of this I honestly would not buy either of them a gift but it would be a somewhat practical gift. Thoughts? If you think I should go through with this what do you recommend I get? Is an ego starter kit good enough? Straight up 3.7v, my first device was a twist so I'm not sure if a non vv device would suffice.

I think an eGo Kit would be a Fantastic Gift. Especially if they have shown some interest in e-Cigarettes.
 

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Just throwing this out there, but how about giving them a starter kit and a pack of (their brand of) smokes? I say this, because it might be better received if it is understood that they can still do both, but this other item is an alternative that you felt would be good gift.

IMO, you have to want to start vaping to get into vaping. But if someone who knew me well. encouraged me, in their own way, to do both, I'd be far more likely to try it than if someone gave it to me thinking I'll just stop smoking and start vaping instead.

Perhaps if a person said something like, "yeah I'd like to try that eCig thing, but it's just too darn expensive," then I'd go the route of giving them a starter kit.
 

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Personally, if they know you vape, and showed little to no interest in it, the gift would would probably go over like a fart in church. If they did show more than just a passing interest, then yes, it would be a great gift!

I have a resident who lives in the building where I work, and she had said she would like to quit smoking, especially after seeing me quit. Wanted to know how I did it, and when I said that I was vaping, she really got interested. Then she saw my gear, a standard eGo with a Mini Davide, and an MVP with a standard Davide, my "extras" pouch with 2 10ml bottles of juice, charging cords, etc, and said flat out, "That is too complicated for me." After going over all I knew about vaping, a Blu kit or something similar was more her speed. Something that was easy to charge, and she could just get pre-filled carts, and be done with it.

Here's an idea that's relatively low risk for you, instead of buying the kits right away, why not pick up a disposable Blu, or Njoy, or something along those lines? I know it's not the best, but how many of us had their first ever vaping experience on mech mods, vv/vw, clearos, cartos, tanks, etc?
 

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I don't think it's overstepping boundaries - unless you plan to wrestle them to the ground, straddle their chest and force them to vape it. Having said that, unless you know they have either expressed interest in starting vaping or quitting smoking, don't blow a pile of money on starter kits either. A $14.99 eGo blister pack with a CE4 will do just as well as the $40.63 Vamo if you have no idea if it will even come out of the package once they get it. In these cases the point of a starter gift is to get something that they might try and arouse curiosity, with the possibility that it may never happen either. The expensive toys can always come later - if you can even get them started.
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I would go with something like this. DV eGo-T Starter Kit - Stainless - 900mah The Vamo might be a little too much for someone just starting out. This is basically the same kit that I started with. Then moved up to a spinner. THEN moved up to the Vamo.

Granted, you will be paying for shipping (not that much) that you wouldn't have to with Fasttech. But, you will guaranteed to get it well before Christmas. With the shopping/shipping season just getting started, your fasttech order may not get here in time.
 

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Personally, if they know you vape, and showed little to no interest in it, the gift would would probably go over like a fart in church. If they did show more than just a passing interest, then yes, it would be a great gift!

I have a resident who lives in the building where I work, and she had said she would like to quit smoking, especially after seeing me quit. Wanted to know how I did it, and when I said that I was vaping, she really got interested. Then she saw my gear, a standard eGo with a Mini Davide, and an MVP with a standard Davide, my "extras" pouch with 2 10ml bottles of juice, charging cords, etc, and said flat out, "That is too complicated for me." After going over all I knew about vaping, a Blu kit or something similar was more her speed. Something that was easy to charge, and she could just get pre-filled carts, and be done with it.

Here's an idea that's relatively low risk for you, instead of buying the kits right away, why not pick up a disposable Blu, or Njoy, or something along those lines? I know it's not the best, but how many of us had their first ever vaping experience on mech mods, vv/vw, clearos, cartos, tanks, etc?
I completely agree with this. Everyone who has quit smoking did it when they were ready to quit, not one minute before and in most cases several years after they were ready. Maybe bring it (vaping to quit) up in conversation and see how they respond.
 

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I completely agree with this. Everyone who has quit smoking did it when they were ready to quit, not one minute before and in most cases several years after they were ready. Maybe bring it (vaping to quit) up in conversation and see how they respond.

Very true. As it's said in another program, everyone has their own amount of pain they must go through before they are ready and willing to quit.
 

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Only do it if they really seem interested in vaping. If they aren't interested, then they aren't going to appreciate the gift and it will make them feel awkward and uncomfortable when they want to smoke because they aren't using your gift. Even if they are interested you should definitely make things comfortable for them if the do decide to continue to smoke by letting them know in advance that you won't be offended if they choose to smoke.

And an ego kit would be great for someone starting out. I see a lot of new vapers these days starting out on VV/VW devices with rebuildable atomizers and the like. My first hand experience from talking with these new vapers is that most new vapers are overwhelmed by all this stuff and don't stick with because its too complicated for them just starting out. Egos are simple and reliable devices that work great and get the job done. That is all a new vaper needs and/or wants.
 
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I've had better luck if I wait until someone approaches me with questions.

Smokers can often feel 'ridiculed and discriminated against' as it is.

Don't get me wrong, I give vape packs for gifts all the time...but to me it's important to let them approach with curiosity and questions first. I also like to know their attitudes about holidays and gift exchanges. It's pretty important that they're the type of person that would not be creeped out at getting a $50+ 'gift' out of nowhere.

Now sharing a decent quality disposable in no way attached to personal/religious holidays ... along with an ECF card might be more practical, and more effective.

New Years parties make a bit more sense as well. It's not a 'religious' holiday, and it's not as 'personal' as something like Christmas or Hanukkah. One of the 'central themes' of the new year celebration is making 'resolutions' and self improvement.

So...instead of $50+kits for 'Christmas', why not a hand full of random disposables in the smoking areas at a New Year's party? It's easier on YOUR pocketbook, and helps 'break the ice' without coming across as being 'pushy'.
 
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One of them has shown some interest in quitting smoking in the past. But that was short lived and as far as I am aware it was trying to quit cold turkey.

This being the case, I would come up with another plan. Something not related to vaping. I sense that neither one of them would take an interest in the gift. I think everyone involved, including you, might end up feeling awkward.

I also sense that you started this thread because deep inside you know that. Your intentions are good but go with your gut.

I recommend getting them something that you are more confident they will like and/or use.
 

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I tend to take a Slightly Different approach when I talk to Smokers about e-Cigarettes.

I tell them it is a Great way to "Cut Down" on analogs and to Save Money. And if they Want to quit, that it can help them.

Most smoker's hate paying what they have to pay to buy cigarettes. The Money Saving aspect they like. And still can cling to their Analogs if they are Not Ready to quit.
 

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If they showed some curiosity or interest, I would say go for it.

Otherwise, it may not be well recieved.

I would say it is the same with how I discuss vaping with random strangers. If someone asks about it, I will totally go into 'sell' mode and tell them all the benefits of them. But I would never walk up to random smoker and say 'you should really try an electronic cigarette'.

Just the way I would see it.
 
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