Overstepping boundaries?

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Dakota Jim

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I agree with Credo 100%

I tend to carry a brand new (charged) ego with a mini vivi nova, usb charger, a 10ml of 18mg ry4 (and a 5ml bottle of menthol flavoring to modify if needed) and cards with my preferred us vendors web sites listed (ie: discount vapors, rocky mt vapors, mt baker , ECF etc) with me when I am out in public where someone might approach me with questions about vaping just to give them (usually they are shocked thinking that I am giving them a $100 setup instead of the actual $10 cost of the Fasttech/Mt baker set up :) did get my dinner bought by a restaurant owner once though, but I did spend about an hour discussing with him how it would benefit his business if his employees could vape inside instead of disappearing for 10+ minutes to sneak a cigarette outside)

The only person I ever forced into vaping is my best friend (however he is getting spoiled because it costs him nothing, I rebuild his evod heads and DIY his eliquids, hahaha he is down to 2mg and doesn't even know it, he thinks it is much stronger nic than cigs because 30ml will last him 45 days now (his wife silently laughs whenever he brings it up when I am around - she's in on it))

anyway the best idea is the disposables handed out at an office party (and definitely nothing as advanced as a VAMO to an unwilling beginner - there was a post a few days ago where somebody wanted to surprise his smoking dad and his dad's girlfriend each with mech's and rba's even though they had never expressed an interest in vaping.)

beginning vapors will do better with a KISS set up (Keep It Simple Stupid) that the don't need to fiddle with and then if they like it and want to upgrade on their own they can.
 

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I smoked for 45 years. Over the course of those years I was an employee and later on I was the boss. If someone presumed to give me an ecigarette as a Christmas gift I would have been quite put off. Who are you to give that type of a gift if the person has not expressed a direct interest in vaping or quitting smoking. Would you think it appropriate to buy someone you work with a package of Nicorette gum out of the blue? Or do you think the person may take offense. Tread carefully, especially at work.

I am all for helping people learn about vaping and trying out my devices. I am all for educating a smoker. You can not push this on someone and it is not a good idea to try. Just because you love it and it works for you others may not see it the same way.
 

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I have a couple coworkers that smoke. Would it be out of line to purchase them a ego or some form of starter setup for Christmas? One of them is my boss. Don't want it to seem judgmental. Outside of this I honestly would not buy either of them a gift but it would be a somewhat practical gift. Thoughts? If you think I should go through with this what do you recommend I get? Is an ego starter kit good enough? Straight up 3.7v, my first device was a twist so I'm not sure if a non vv device would suffice.
First let me say this sounds so generous and I'd love to receive a free gift worth about $40 from a coworker with no strings attached:D

Is this a new job? Have you and your coworkers exchanged gifts before? You say "outside of this I honestly would not buy either of them a gift..." Huh?

I'm all for making brownie points ;) However, I see this in a couple of different ways.

I have no idea what your job is or how much money you have or whether you have a personal relationship with the 2 people. You're not referring to them as 2 friends at work so I assume they are just 2 people where you work who happen to smoke? You don't want them to be smoking around you or something like that?

Are they the only 2 people who smoke where you work or are there more, if so, then why just these 2 people lol? (I say this because there were lots of people where I've worked so wouldn't know how to single out just 2 of them to gift something that I ordinarily wouldn't even gift in the first place!)

Have you been having regular discussions with them about vaping? If so then only you know if they would be receptive.

Would this generous gift you want to bestow be a complete shock out of the blue to them? If so, be totally prepared to have lots of different kinds of eliquids, flavors, strengths, VG/PG ratios? for them to try to use in their new vaping devices. Just saying. If they don't know anything about vaping and might not be prepared in any way as to what it might entail, then you are going to be involved with them for the long haul :) Which might be what you want?

When I started vaping with a disposable it made me cough and gave me horrible sore throat, sinus, burning itchy eyes and other problems. I learned later it was due to the PG and now I use 100% VG based eliquids etc... My point being what if one of your 2 coworkers is allergic to PG or VG and had a horrible reaction assuming you give them some eliquids. If you just give them the kits and no eliquids are you prepared to help with that?

This thread is a week old and you may have come to your own conclusions so keep us posted! Thanks! :)
 
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Rickajho

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I've had better luck if I wait until someone approaches me with questions.

Smokers can often feel 'ridiculed and discriminated against' as it is.

Don't get me wrong, I give vape packs for gifts all the time...but to me it's important to let them approach with curiosity and questions first. I also like to know their attitudes about holidays and gift exchanges. It's pretty important that they're the type of person that would not be creeped out at getting a $50+ 'gift' out of nowhere.

Now sharing a decent quality disposable in no way attached to personal/religious holidays ... along with an ECF card might be more practical, and more effective.

New Years parties make a bit more sense as well. It's not a 'religious' holiday, and it's not as 'personal' as something like Christmas or Hanukkah. One of the 'central themes' of the new year celebration is making 'resolutions' and self improvement.

So...instead of $50+kits for 'Christmas', why not a hand full of random disposables in the smoking areas at a New Year's party? It's easier on YOUR pocketbook, and helps 'break the ice' without coming across as being 'pushy'.

I like this disposables idea even better - completely takes the "You spent WHAT for that!?" pressure off. And the New Years party too - if it's an option. Get some people drinking and they will do/try/say anything. Not so sure about the "random" part though. You do want the smokers to try 'em, not the jokers.
 
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