Oxygenated E-Liquid

[jxmiller]

Ok so the idea is to take an oxygen tank (small) and hook it up to a diffuser stone and place the stone inside some e-liquid. Turn on the tank and bam oxygenated e-liquid.

Ok so the question is this. Will the extra oxygen allow the nichrome coil to get hotter? This is something I posted in a chat room and had some people make valid concerns. After the discussion was over I think what I personally come up with (no evidence) is that the oxygen enriched e-liquid would not explode. Some had that concern. I do not. If you have that concern post evidence please I would like to know. Another concern was ... Why do this? Well IF* the extra oxygen allowed the nichrome to burn hotter @ the same voltage could I not provide less power to get the same heat as non oxygen enriched E-Liquid? If I am providing less power my battery will last longer. Less of a need for what I call the "huge mods". Or even less of a need to have to charge batteries constantly.

I would appreciate any insight you might have, thanks!

Ohh almost forgot. Another concern was that introducing oxygen into the e-liquid was going to make the liquid "go bad" sooner, much sooner. I would not do this on a 30ml bottle(or greater), I would do it on a 10ml amount though and not worry about it going bad.

 

[Think Tink]

I don't quite think you're on the right track here. Your atty shouldn't burn anything and oxygen is used in burning as part of the fuel. Your atty is just heating up the liquid to the point of evaporation, contrary to analogs there is no burning involved (when you are doing things properly anyway).

 

[breakfastchef]

Try it and report back.

 

[Winace]

Are you talking oxygenation via an ozone generator?

 

[jxmiller]

I am not oxygenating anything. I was more pointing out the theory and asking the question of if it is feasible. I am very uncertain if the nichrome wire would rise in temp with the extra oxygen. And even if it did would it be enough to be able to reduce the power required to get to that "right temp".

 

[CHUCKLEHEAD]

Try it and report back.

LMAO!!! LOOKS LIKE A DIASTER IN PROGRESS

 

[Winace]

I am not oxygenating anything. I was more pointing out the theory and asking the question of if it is feasible. I am very uncertain if the nichrome wire would rise in temp with the extra oxygen. And even if it did would it be enough to be able to reduce the power required to get to that "right temp".

Understood, but hyper-oxidization and ozonation (o3) go hand in hand. In the presence of some materials as stated below, it could prove potentially hazardous:

Ozone is a powerful oxidising agent. Oxidation with ozone evolves more heat and usually ignites at a lower temperature than oxidising with oxygen. Ozone reacts with non-saturated organic compounds to produce ozonides, which are unstable and may decompose with explosive voilence. Ozone is an unstable gas that, at normal temperatures, decomposes to biatomic oxygen. At elevated temperatures and in presence of certain catalysts such as hydrogen, iron, copper and chromium, this decomposition may be explosive.

Oxidization via oxygen, and not ozone, would be a less riskier venture, but weighing the risk:reward... would it prove worth it? Possibly test in a controlled environment away from your face. Oxidize some juice, throw a spring in it (mods ya know) and hit it with an open flame. I'd expect no adverse reaction. Also attempt reproduction of this environment in a sealed (or limited ventilation) environment. Keep in mind, oxygen accelerates combustion, we are not reaching the point of combustion and oxygen, I do not believe, would not lower the temperature of the liquids requirement to vaporize. If the liquid were flamable it would burn hotter, but there is no open flame present.

 

[jxmiller]

Still need to know. Will the coil get hotter (with oxygenated juice) given the same power input? This is the question.

That is what needs to be known here. Experiments in explosivity can be done easily with a stove. I am fairly certain that will not be a problem though. The oxygen is limited to the juice. The surrounding gases are at normal levels, but since the juice is in contact with the coil directly the oxygen (and this is the theory behind the question^) would increase the temp of the coil given the same energy input. If this is true, then batteries would last longer because to maintain the normal temp less energy is required.

Just need to know the answer to the question if anyone can help.

 

[DVap]

The solubility of oxygen in e-liquid is questionable. I wouldn't expect it to have any effect on the coil. If anything you might promote nicotine oxidation, that's probably a bad thing.

 

[Kurt]

The solubility of oxygen in e-liquid is questionable. I wouldn't expect it to have any effect on the coil. If anything you might promote nicotine oxidation, that's probably a bad thing.

Exactly my first thoughts about this too. And I don't think it would vape hotter, rather lower. All heat will go into bubbling the O2 out. So IF O2 was soluble, my guess is it would make the juice foam...then the entire PV would detonate, sending the atty through your brain, and the batt though your palm.

Ouch.

Well, probably not...but why would anyone want to do this?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Exactly my first thoughts about this too. And I don't think it would vape hotter, rather lower. All heat will go into bubbling the O2 out. So IF O2 was soluble, my guess is it would make the juice foam...then the entire PV would detonate, sending the atty through your brain, and the batt though your palm.

Ouch.

Well, probably not...but why would anyone want to do this?

Kurt--I was hoping you would chime in here on this one!!


Thanks,

Sun

 

[jerrydon10]

I doubt it would do anything but ruin your juice. First, as Dvap pointed out, solubility of 02 in the juice is questionable.

And isn't the idea to keep our juice away from light and 02 to preserve nic content? But, if you are like me, you will try it.

Please report back.

 

[Kurt]

I doubt it would do anything but ruin your juice. First, as Dvap pointed out, solubility of 02 in the juice is questionable.

And isn't the idea to keep our juice away from light and 02 to preserve nic content? But, if you are like me, you will try it.

Please report back.

Good point jerrydon! O2 is the enemy of nic, making it oxidize to cotinine pretty easily. We certianly want to keep O2 from juices being stored long term.

I still don't know what the OP intended with this. IMHO, best to avoid O2 in all stages of juice, both production, storage and usage. While the last one is impossible unless you are vaping in a pure N2 environment, adding additional O2 is not wise, to my thinking.

 

[Scottes]

Good point jerrydon! O2 is the enemy of nic, making it oxidize to cotinine pretty easily.

DVap did some interesting tests about this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/myfreedomsmokes/43742-smoke-juice-storage-tips.html