Painful Inhale. What am I doing wrong??

[Mjs147]

This is my first post on the E-Cig forum! happy to have found this place.

I decided to give vaping a try about a week ago. I started with the blu e cig original starter kit. After vaping with the blu e cigs for a couple days, I decided I needed to have on of the bigger devices.

i went to my local shop in Anoka, MN and bought this VMX 6-volt. (pictured below, and linked for better image). The flavor and vapor production is great on the VMX.

However, the 'throat hit' is very rough and unpleasant.

With my blu e cig, I can do slow and deep inhales all day with no problem, but just trying to inhale a little bit off the VMX causes my throat to hurt, and lung pain.

Is it because of the higher voltage? (this device does not have variable voltage); it only works at 6 Volts.

I am making sure to not directly inhale, but hold the vapor in my mouth for a few seconds before the inhale. But it still seems quite painful to inhale. I have no problem doing very deep inhales with the blu's or with analogs..

But I want to be able to inhale the great vapor and taste from the HV VMX.

VMX 6-Volt



http://www.createyounow.com/images/vmx6volt.jpg

 

[Thompson]

Welcome to the forums

Any idea what resistance your delivery system is? For 6v you'd want higher resistance, 3ohms or higher. That or use an rba setup with the proper coil build.

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

 

[k3vin]

You will need something that is a minimum of 3 ohms resistance (cartomizer, atomizer, whatever you decide to get..) at 6 volts only, anything, especially lr, and really you can't use a lr coil at 6volts normally. high resistance like 3 ohm can be problematic for someone new to learn to Keep the coil area very wet.
My personal opinion is whoever sold you this item should of talked all of this over with you. If possible take it back and get a variable voltage mod so you can adjust the power to what you are using..

 

[nev99]

Welcome to the forums

Any idea what resistance your delivery system is? For 6v you'd want higher resistance, 3ohms or higher. That or use an rba setup with the proper coil build.

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

what he said and also what is the PG/VG ratio and nic level of the liquid you are using.

 

[nev99]

and i finally got one of those double posts of the day

 

[Mjs147]

Welcome to the forums

Any idea what resistance your delivery system is? For 6v you'd want higher resistance, 3ohms or higher. That or use an rba setup with the proper coil build.

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

I just checked, and it is a 2.0 OHM carto. This is what came in the kit, so maybe some people like it?? This device uses Dual Coil Cartomizer for 510 DCT Tube.

So maybe I should try one at 2.5, or 3.0 OHM, what will this difference feel like??

 

[Mjs147]

what he said and also what is the PG/VG ratio and nic level of the liquid you are using.

I'm not sure what the PG/VG ratio is; the ingredients list both PG and VG, that is all.

Nicotine is 16 mg

You will need something that is a minimum of 3 ohms resistance (cartomizer, atomizer, whatever you decide to get..) at 6 volts only, anything, especially lr, and really you can't use a lr coil at 6volts normally. high resistance like 3 ohm can be problematic for someone new to learn to Keep the coil area very wet.
My personal opinion is whoever sold you this item should of talked all of this over with you. If possible take it back and get a variable voltage mod so you can adjust the power to what you are using..

I'm thinking I may go to a different store and try a variable voltage mod at some point, but I would like to get this one working well first, as I really like the look and feel of it.

 

[BostonVape]

need to list what PG/VG ratio and nic level you are using like above stated

since that is a HUGE throat hit factor.

 

[BostonVape]

woops since you just posted it

so if you have an 80/20 blend (which is usually the standard) that might be why..

if you try a 50/50 blend you might notice the TH is less harsh .. i personally have to stay at 80/20 or 65/35 because I need a bigger TH

 

[Thompson]

I just checked, and it is a 2.0 OHM carto. This is what came in the kit, so maybe some people like it?? This device uses Dual Coil Cartomizer for 510 DCT Tube.

So maybe I should try one at 2.5, or 3.0 OHM, what will this difference feel like??

2 ohm @ 6v is too hot for the single coil, & will burn the filler of a carto. Should be less hot with a dual coil, I'm not familiar with them, so not sure.

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

 

[Renzuli]

I'm afraid that I have to agree with K3vin , Either get a Hr carto/atomizer , of at least 3 ohm , or the vendor should take it back , and get you into some sort of VV device . 6 volts , with a 2 ohm carto , just doesn't work . It could do nothing , but be very harsh .

 

[Wizzlefits]

At least for me, the PG/VG ratio doesn't seem to effect the TH as much as the nic level.
I can't vape higher than 18mg, prefer 12mg

 

[Horselady154]

I'm still on the new side, or feel like I am, but I haven't run anything close to 6V. It really seems odd to me that the store sold something like that to you and on top of that, sold it to you with a 2 ohm carto. If it was me, I'd be taking it back to the store.

 

[Baditude]

There's now way I could tolerate 6 volts! Tried it, hated it. WAY too harsh.

You can try a higher ohm (3.0 ohm) SINGLE coil cartomizer on that beast, but my guess is even that will be too much for a new vapor such as yourself. In fact, if you follow the guidelines in the Safe Vaping Power Chart, you'll need a 5 ohm cartomizer. http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

It typically is common for new vapors to be sensitive to vapor resulting in coughing and even sore throat in the beginning. I couldn't imagine trying to start out in vaping at 6 volts.

I think the vendor that sold you that PV did you a disservice in selling you that particular model as a new vapor. If it was me I would attempt to return it and get a device that offers adjustable, variable voltage so that you can turn up or down the heat at your discretion.

That is, unless you wish to continue inhaling a blowtorch.

 

[Ryedan]

Welcome to ECF Mjs and to vaping. The problem you're having is that at 2 ohms and 6 volts, you will be experiencing a very hot, burnt vape.

Here is a vaping power chart. Look at the column that says 6 volts on top, and check the watts resulting from various resistances at the left side. You generally want to be below 10 watts.

This e-cig is not one I would have recommended for a relatively new vaper. In my opinion, if you can return it, I would do so. There are much better e-cigs out there for you. If you are stuck with this e-cig, I suggest you try 4 ohm cartos. Even 3 ohms will be quite high.

 

[Horselady154]

According to this post, it appears that the shop in Minnesota is who created that particular PV.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...od-possible-tips-modding-battery-options.html

This is back from 2010, so I'm not sure how much of this is still relevant. But, still worth reading.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/84393-vapormaxx-vmx.html

 

[Mjs147]

There's now way I could tolerate 6 volts! Tried it, hated it. WAY too harsh.

You can try a higher ohm (3.0 ohm) SINGLE coil cartomizer on that beast, but my guess is even that will be too much for a new vapor such as yourself. It typically is common for new vapors to be sensitive to vapor resulting in coughing and even sore throat in the beginning. I couldn't imagine trying to start out in vaping at 6 volts.

I think the vendor that sold you that PV did you a disservice in selling you that particular model as a new vapor. If it was me I would attempt to return it and get a device that offers adjustable, variable voltage so that you can turn up or down the heat at your discretion.

That is, unless you wish to continue inhaling a blowtorch.

Thanks all for the replies xD

Yea. I'm surprised I didn't notice how harsh it was at the shop when I tried it. will try the 3.0 single carto;

 

[Thompson]

I'm not 100% on the dimensions of the batteries (looks like it takes RCA123A) but you may be able to bang one 18650 battery in there and drop the voltage considerably, allowing use of lower resistance gear.

Also seeing as its utilizing Stacked Batteries I'd suggest reading up on proper charging & usage habits for stacked situations.

 

[Baditude]

Yea. I'm surprised I didn't notice how harsh it was at the shop when I tried it. will try the 3.0 single carto;

If you look at the link in the Power Chart that I posted (I edited my post), you'll need a 5 ohm single cart. That's a specialty item that not all vendors will carry, but since that vendor is selling 6 volt devices, he should have them.

 

[Mjs147]

Welcome to ECF Mjs and to vaping. The problem you're having is that at 2 ohms and 6 volts, you will be experiencing a very hot, burnt vape.

Here is a vaping power chart. Look at the column that says 6 volts on top, and check the watts resulting from various resistances at the left side. You generally want to be below 10 watts.

This e-cig is not one I would have recommended for a relatively new vaper. In my opinion, if you can return it, I would do so. There are much better e-cigs out there for you. If you are stuck with this e-cig, I suggest you try 4 ohm cartos. Even 3 ohms will be quite high.

Yea, that power chart is very helpful. But is it accurate when you take into account double and single coil cartomizers? I just read that using a double coil will lower the watts.