so i recently got in touch with voopoo to ask about the safety of their mod the drag. I know that batteries have failed in them and videos on line show guys using cheap batteries. They said to take care if my batteries which are 18650 LG HG2 from dashvapes who reassured me they test their batteries by the case. They also mentioned leaking juice has been an issue. So if im using this mod do i have to worry about leaving it at home or overnight and juice leaking and casing a short? Does anyone have this mod? It looks awesome and most people support it as being a top shelf mod. Thanks
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First off, your mod is what is considered a "regulated" battery device, which in part means it has internal electronic protection circuitry against short circuits, over-discharge of the batteries, reverse battery protection, high temperature protection, timed auto cutoff, etc.
Everyone that uses a battery device which uses Li-ion batteries needs to educate themselve and practice safe battery practices regardless of what "protections" an electronic mod has. Although rare, electronic parts can fail. Lithium batteries pack a huge amount of power into a relatively small metal can, so respect that power and don't abuse/misuse it.
If you like to read, I recommend you read:
Concerning the leaking juice "issue"... all juice attachments or tanks have the potential to leak e-liquid. You don't want e-liquid leaking into the electronics or circuit board of you mod or around the fire button. Small amounts of e-liquid may accumulate in the 510 connector (where your tank screws onto your mod). Use a Q-tip to keep that area clean and dry.
Everyone that uses a battery device which uses Li-ion batteries needs to educate themselve and practice safe battery practices regardless of what "protections" an electronic mod has. Although rare, electronic parts can fail. Lithium batteries pack a huge amount of power into a relatively small metal can, so respect that power and don't abuse/misuse it.
If you like to read, I recommend you read:
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
Guide to Choosing a Li-ion Battery Charger
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?
Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries Part 1
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
If you prefer watching video's, you won't find a better teacher on batteries than Battery Mooch:Guide to Choosing a Li-ion Battery Charger
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?
Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries Part 1
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
These are the two most important videos that have the "basics"...
Concerning the leaking juice "issue"... all juice attachments or tanks have the potential to leak e-liquid. You don't want e-liquid leaking into the electronics or circuit board of you mod or around the fire button. Small amounts of e-liquid may accumulate in the 510 connector (where your tank screws onto your mod). Use a Q-tip to keep that area clean and dry.
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I shadow @Baditude excellent post – battery safety is utmost importance!
I also own the Drag. It’s a good mod that works well but that does not void it from practicing battery safety. Leakey tanks can be troublesome, not just for batteries but other issues such as a sticky fire button as mentioned above. If your tank is excessively leaking, you should address that and either rectify the problem with that particular tank, or replace it. Mitigating leaks make for a much more enjoyable experience.
I also own the Drag. It’s a good mod that works well but that does not void it from practicing battery safety. Leakey tanks can be troublesome, not just for batteries but other issues such as a sticky fire button as mentioned above. If your tank is excessively leaking, you should address that and either rectify the problem with that particular tank, or replace it. Mitigating leaks make for a much more enjoyable experience.
There have been reports of the 510 pin leaking and juice getting into the board. But they aren't that widespread.
Thanks for the response. I have been doing alot of research on the tooic and have already watched mooches video. Am i better off leaving the batteries out at night and only attching the tank when i plan to use it? My concern is that if it leaks over night will it cause a problem? Or will it take a substantial amount of juice to cause problems
What is the 520 pin? Is there anything I can do to help prevent it. If my tank leaks over night or unattended for a full day would that be enough ejuice to set it off? Just trying to make my mind up weither or not return the device before i open it and get a different mod.
If you are relatively new to vaping, that's probably not a bad idea. Keep your batteries in plastic battery cases and keep your juice attachment in a vertical position. Should you carry spare batteries with you, you'll need a plastic battery case, anyway.
Once you are assured that you don't have a leaky juice attachment, you can keep your batteries in your mod and your juice attachment on your mod.
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That makes sense. I did just order a UWELL crown III becasue my smok beast leaks. Hopefully this will be much better. Thsnk you
If you practice proper battery safety it should not be a concern. I leave the batteries in my Drag over night (in the event I wake up and need a quick vape!! 
). Leaks are gonna happen, whether its due to a problematic tank or user error – it’s part of the game. Practically every mod can become problematic if it's internals are exposed to juice, with the exception of a few "rugged water proof" mods. Nothing wrong with removing your tank should the device be unattended – what ever makes you more comfortable.
Any subohm tank that I am not using on a regular basis I store upside down. Gravity pulls the juice away from the wicking ports mitigating over wicking which could lead to leaking.
). Leaks are gonna happen, whether its due to a problematic tank or user error – it’s part of the game. Practically every mod can become problematic if it's internals are exposed to juice, with the exception of a few "rugged water proof" mods. Nothing wrong with removing your tank should the device be unattended – what ever makes you more comfortable.Any subohm tank that I am not using on a regular basis I store upside down. Gravity pulls the juice away from the wicking ports mitigating over wicking which could lead to leaking.
The 510 connector is where your tank screws into your battery device. Some 510 connectors have a center pin which may allow e-liquid to get into the internal compartment of the mod.
It's difficult to say how much juice it would take to cause a problem. You don't want ANY to get inside.
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I suppose that Dashvapes could be the mythical unicorn vape store that tests its batteries by "the case" whatever that means, but I personally think in most cases just buying direct from a Mooch approved vendor is both better and safer. If you are worried about your batteries I would do this in the future.
Any mod can fair, but regulated mods, well for the most part it takes QUITE a bit of effort to get there. I suppose there is nothing wrong with taking your batteries out at night if you feel paranoid about it, and it makes you feel better. I don't leave batteries sitting around unattended in Mech mods, but they don't have protections.
As far as the leaking issue.... Any tank or mod can leak. I don't think your setup is substantially more likely to leak than any other providing you are operating the tank correctly. Again, if you have your tank working well and not leaking, I don't think it's going to enter a Sudden State of Leakage through the 510 pin, I mean.....Check it for leaks if you are filling it, or if you do something like clean it and unseat an O-ring or maybe don't seat the coil correctly but if it is operating in a state of normalcy the tank is unlikely to enter a state of Catastrophic Leakage.
Again, if you feel better doing it you can certainly unscrew the tank overnight but I would say if you do that for a while and don't see any leaking as you prepare to reattach it in the morning for a while, again you are probably fine.
I've never used dashvapes so I can't speak to their batteries but if I were to change one thing it would be to get batteries I was CERTAIN to be authentic and I am glad you are concerning yourself with safety and whatnot. Hopefully you can get to a point where you can just enjoy your new mod, I really kind of think you are likely to be just fine though.
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Any mod can fair, but regulated mods, well for the most part it takes QUITE a bit of effort to get there. I suppose there is nothing wrong with taking your batteries out at night if you feel paranoid about it, and it makes you feel better. I don't leave batteries sitting around unattended in Mech mods, but they don't have protections.
As far as the leaking issue.... Any tank or mod can leak. I don't think your setup is substantially more likely to leak than any other providing you are operating the tank correctly. Again, if you have your tank working well and not leaking, I don't think it's going to enter a Sudden State of Leakage through the 510 pin, I mean.....Check it for leaks if you are filling it, or if you do something like clean it and unseat an O-ring or maybe don't seat the coil correctly but if it is operating in a state of normalcy the tank is unlikely to enter a state of Catastrophic Leakage.
Again, if you feel better doing it you can certainly unscrew the tank overnight but I would say if you do that for a while and don't see any leaking as you prepare to reattach it in the morning for a while, again you are probably fine.
I've never used dashvapes so I can't speak to their batteries but if I were to change one thing it would be to get batteries I was CERTAIN to be authentic and I am glad you are concerning yourself with safety and whatnot. Hopefully you can get to a point where you can just enjoy your new mod, I really kind of think you are likely to be just fine though.
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@stols001 - There are a few stores here in Toronto that test their batteries prior to sale. Or at least that is what they claim. The batteries are authentic, mostly LG HG2 (Us Canadian’s love our brown batteries!!) with Samsung coming in a close second.
Dashvapes is a very reputable dealer here in the GTA – I trust they sell (and have confirmed with the batteries I purchased) authentic batteries.
Dashvapes is a very reputable dealer here in the GTA – I trust they sell (and have confirmed with the batteries I purchased) authentic batteries.
Thank you. Where can i find a list of mooch approved retailers?
Mooch's Recommended 18650 Batteries
North America
www.liionwholesale.com
www.imrbatteries.com
www.illumn.com
www.rtdvapor.com
www.batterybro.com
www.orbtronic.com
UK
myepack.co.uk
www.batteriesplus.co.uk
www.fogstar.co.uk
www.nkon.nl
Welcome to Ecolux. The UK's Battery and accessory specialists. Wide range of authentic leading brands in stock ready for immediate dispatch.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
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@JJ Hair – Mooch’s approved retailers do not cover Canada…I’ve looked. Nothing wrong with buying batteries from afar but once conversion, duty and shipping is applied they can come out to be more expensive than what is found in Canada. Dashvapes sells authentic batteries. Should have no concern over them what so ever.
180Smoke also tests and sell authentic LG and Samsung batteries.
180Smoke also tests and sell authentic LG and Samsung batteries.
I use heat sinks on every setup. I also make washers out of calling cards to protect the surface from scratches. I don't think heat sinks really work to keep your setup cooler. I do believe they are a good way to protect your 510 from juice and reduce wear and tear. They can be pretty cheap if you shop around. Kind of odd for someone who refuses to wear a rain coat.
NKON | ru.nkon.nl NKON gives a quote using Fed Ex, although you have to wait a month.
IMR also gives a quote using USPS and should be both quicker and cheaper.
Samsung 30Q is €3.35 on that site. Shipping to Canada is €30.00. That equals $49.51 CAN dollars not including duty or what ever conversion rate our banks use. Plus the added risk of customs denying the shipment which is known to happen from time to time at which the buyer still has to pay for shipping. A authentic Samsung 30Q can be found for as little as $11.99 in Canada. I'm not against online shopping outside of Canada, but the majority of the time it is not worth the efforts.
If you're worried about leaking overnight just take the tank off. If after a few days you see the tank is dry on the bottom then it can earn overnight stays. As to the batteries, so whatever you're comfortable with but I leave mine in unless the mod will be out of circulation for a while and I'm storing it away.
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