Parents are about to quit smoking

[super_X_drifter]

Yes, sounds awesome doesn't it? I'm proud that my mom and stepdad are about to take the plunge. I mean they've only seen me happily vaping for almost 2 years.

I've given them puffs before and they coughed their brains out. A while back, when I had only one REO mini, I gave them my inferno and V2s and they didn't like them.

So next week, they want me to "hook them up" with the setups that'll get em off cigs. Sounds easy right? Except I don't even know where to start.

I showed my mom ECF and my YouTube channel yesterday (she was kinda amazed that I had made videos on vaping) but it seems so easy to just throw info out there to strangers.

Back to my dilemma - where do I start. My thought was to fix them up with my only two grands so they could use the same batteries because I have a spare WP II charger and multiple 18650s. I'd prefer to set them up with one grand and my VV grand so id have a grand here for outside yard duty but I'd need a different charger like an i4 or I'd have to give em both of my back up chargers.

So my only two grands and one cyclone and one RM2. I also thought about putting cartos in there since they don't live close enough to rebuild in an emergency.

Got plenty of juice too.

Arrgggghhh! I'm stressing because it just seems so hard to start total newbs that are slightly older that are my parents so their success is ultimately in my hands. I'd like to transfer some of that load and ask your help on how I should do this so some of the responsibility is on you too

Should I start em on my V2s until they "get it" or just try to bring em in at my level?

Help please. What would you do ?

 

[Borescoped]

Most importantly, the consideration of ease of use. If it's not simple and delivers a good vape, they won't like it, and won't transition easily I think.

You are on a totally different level than most folks Russ (even some of us newer REOnauts), and even though they are your parents, they haven't got the experience that you do with such things, and might not have the drive to get on your level at the start (even though all REOnauts would say "Heck yeah! Wish I'd gotten a Grand to start with!".) Most didn't know better to get here that fast (I sure as heck didn't), takes learning curve on the individual's part IMO.

I'd still recommend Kanger Aerotank minis (SS/glass tank sections, easy to change coil heads, supposed to be a good vape) paired up with Vision spinner V2's (1600mah twists), and one of those usb screw on chargers. Pair of tanks/batts each. Throw them some juices that you think they might like (no, not 10/90 unflavored).

Links (all from one site, cheapest I've seen, consolidate your shipping!):

Kanger Aerotank Mini

Vision Spinner V2 1600mAh

USB Charging Cable for Ego

Wall to USB Converter [Pass-Thru Ready]


Coil Heads, you'd have to check here:

DiscountVapers: Kanger Dual Coil Atomizer Heads (enclosed wick) - 1.5ohms

Ya know, I suppose an MVP2 would be good also, in lieu of the Vision Spinner V2's.

 

[Dconnor]

I have been trying to get my mom to quit smoking. She is in her late 60's. While I love my Reos, there is no way a mechanical device with an rda would work for her.
I ended up getting her an MVP and evods for the ease of use and reliability. It is impossible to be there all the time to hold their hand, so I wanted something a little more plug and play. If there was a problem, she could put in a new wick and coil easily if I was not available. We all know there is a learning curve, and i think it is better to make them comfortable first while they put down the smokes.

 

[olefolks]

Just my thought Russ. I would add an Artistic gadget, some 30ga. wire and KGD to the ensemble. Show them your vid or if they are visiting give them a demo. Provide them with the Grands and the Cyclone and RM2, etc.
The reason I'm suggesting this is because I would give anything to have started with that set-up from the gitgo. The money saved, wow.
Also I am probably as old or older than your parents and it was a piece of cake making coils with the above equipment.

 

[RattlerX]

SxD
That is great that your mom and dad are wanting to quit smoking.

I went though this with my mom and dad. Dad finally just sat everything down and quit his cigars but mom tried to vape for awhile. She coughed pretty bad when vaping and eventually gave up when she got vapors tongue. You need to be really committed to push through the first months as you know.

I started mom off with an iTaste vv and a Protank 2 mini. PT2 are relatively easy to work with and the iTaste vv is adjustable and no need to change batteries.

I still have that iTaste vv and the PT2 minis. I have been holding on to it for someone that needed a nice starter kit. If you think it is something you can work with I will send to you.


I was afraid to start my parents off with a REO because of the batteries and coil/wick. They live two hours away and I could not be there every day. It was confusing enough to them without having to worry about other details.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Pre roll a schit ton of coils.

 

[JoanJ]

I started mine on the V2. Mom is 80 and pops is 99, will be 100 next March. With them the first thing you have to 'teach them is that you don't inhale the same way as with a cigarette. I started them with prefilled carts and neither was truly happy that way. Mom is able to fill carts and it is easier to just buy those for them and buy new ones when they need than trying to get them onto tanks of some sort at least for right now. Finding a flavor they each liked is still sort of an ongoing thing. Mom found some fruity ones she loves but pops really wants something that tastes like a real unfiltered camel. After they are comfy this way, I may get mom onto something like an Evod or ego system. The little evod tanks are troopers and easy to deal with. The v tox version is even cheaper...I will probably get her an ego because the button sticks out and easier for her to push and the evod tanks. I started pops at 24 nic and he is at 18 now. Started mom at 18 and just this week she said she wanted the juice but no nicotine

I have a Vision V2 Spinner and love it. Not sure I would give one to my parents though. I think they will be more comfy with something smaller and lighter. You can ask them and see what they want. I have gotten several at the Senior Center into vaping and some want to stay with the little V2 batts and one has an mvp. Age really doesn't make a difference. It is more their ability to work the device, some with dexterity problems, or what feels comfy in their hand. Good luck, have confidence in yourself, your heart is in the right place and the rest will follow.

I get most of my goodies here.
http://www.ecigcharleston.com/Default.asp

 

[Lurch]

I started with a simple EVOD Twist and EVOD toppers. Glad I did. Gave me a chance to get used to the vaping experience without having to deal with building coils, learning menus, etc. My DW is still using the same stuff, except she has converted to ProTank2 minis...

 

[B2L]

They have a great guide to begin with, if they really want to quit the battle is already won. You have shown them what it can do, the rest is up to them. Saying this to say, don't feel like the burden is on your shoulders.

I would have loved to began with a REO but all that I have gone through to get here has led me to really appreciate it all that much more. That being said, it depends if they are handy and want to rebuild themselves or not. If not a REO with some Smoktech 1.7 cartos to start with and go from there.

I have found that if I hold a newbies hand too much, they become reliant and as soon as something comes up, If I'm not there to take care of it they are right back smoking, so encouraging them to learn for themselves, IMO, is important.

Congrats on being a great influence on your parents, we've got to look out for them

Edit: I would also encourage them to set up an ECF profile if for nothing else for the information and encouragement. I think they would be impressed with what you do for everyone here as well

 

[elscorcho]

My mom was a HEAVY smoker and she has used an EVOD KIT from DV for about six months with no problems. The evods have been recommended by others for a reason: Evods are easy-to-fill and produce decent vapor (they are dual-coil) & are relatively hassle-free. I would try the kit and upgrade the batteries to 1300mah if they stick with it.

I also started my sister and BIL on this kit and they have both been vaping it for about a year. They are not interested in "getting more into vaping" and have stayed off the stinkies with this kit.

I think it is the most straight-forward kit for newbs. I didn't want to be having to fix her gear all the time and she just wanted something easy to use.

GOOD LUCK BRO!

 

[redeyedancer]

Good luck buddy My dad was easy he took to vaping like a fish to water . My mother was a whole other story . My dad wanted to quit so it was easy mom fought it and still sneaks analogs . It really comes down to do they really want to quit . We see it in the forums some people can get a reo and they just get it others struggle with the basic mechanics of a bottom feeder .

 

[super_X_drifter]

Seeing y'all post all this helpful info is helping to relax me about it. Thank you.

 

[DoogieTony]

I'd have to agree with the advice to start them off with some type of clearo/ego or mvp. I still remeber the learning curve I went through with volts, ohms, pg/vg ratio, etc. I'd say the simpler the better for older beginners.

You'd be the best judge for picking their nic levels but I'd start them off with a 50/50 blend from Mountain Oak vapors or Ahlusion. I've started up several people and everyone of them was amazed with their juices as they have nice strong flavors for those fried buds.

Make sure they have youtube links to maintenance videos (cleaning, filling, and changing heads) for their batts and toppers and turn them loose.

 

[stashbldr]

I've started lots of people on vaping .. the #1 main thing is to be sure their first equipment is super simple. I've always started people out on either an Evod or a Protank. I supply them with lots of pre-made coils (that I make myself) and lots of different DIY juices with a variety of flavors like tobacco, fruit, sweets, candy etc.

My main goal is to be sure they don't have to understand or do much at all. I do not tell them nor show them how to make a coil or explain anything about the construction part, I tried that once and it just overwhelmed the person and they ran to the store and bought a pack of cigs LOL.

 

[twgbonehead]

I would suggest you keep it simple. Definitely go with cartos of some kind; as a couple have mentioned, the EVODs aren't a bad choice at all, but most of the BCC or BDC clearos I've tried have worked pretty well and are simple to deal with.

And either the MVP or the VV V3 would be my recommendation for batteries; since they charge inside the PV it eliminates the hassles of dealing with separate batteries, charging, etc.

Start with the simplest scenario you can find; the easier it is the more likely they will get into it and actually use it.

 

[RattlerX]

Russ,

I found that most people I help make the transition like cinnamon flavors to start because they can taste it even with destroyed taste buds.

If you go with a PT set-up I have a 30ish heads that can be rebuilt and some that are already rebuilt with a 1.6 micro. I will send you a good supply and then all you have to do is change out the cotton wicks.

By the easy the iTaste vv I have is the pearl white. Still in the box with charge cord and instruction book.

 

[CATastrophe]

Supe, sounds like a good excuse to get yourself another grand. Loan two to your folks, and when you order that new grand, get some plain ole cartos so they don't have to rebuild. All they need to learn then is to squonk and swap batteries. Doesn't get much easier.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Yes. I think I'm going to go with @El Scorcho's suggested EVOD kit because they will be operating fairly remotely.

It sounds like the downright simplest way for total elderly newbs to replace smoking with vapor. I mean, all they have to do is pour in juice and vape. I'm sure I can replace the heads as needed.

Once they've kicked the habit and are accustomed to vapor in lieu of smoke we can switch them over to REOs.

I will likely buy 2 spare batteries for them too.

Does anyone have a discount code for DV?

I appreciate a your suggestions. Thank you.

I just don't see them rebuilding YET or squonking YET. Heck I was even apprehensive about rebuilding even after having a REO for several months. Remember, I also quit for a month before even vaping. They are going right on in so they need a very simple almost cig like experience to win them over I think. Y'all are right.

I am going to get my mom set up here at ECF too so she has a support group of sorts. Y'all just can't go letting her know how much of a tool I am on here . But then again she knows

 

[malkuth]

Russ,

First off, I would ask them what THEY want. Do they want something that looks/feels like an analog? Do they want to mess with tanks/coils/cartos, etc? That should be the driving force. What they are comfortable with. How much time and effort are they willing to put forth? What are they open to trying? Obviously they are not wimps (getting old is NOT for wimps), but you have to consider the efforts they want to put forth. Finally, you have to consider their dexterity and visual acuity. That can/should be a driving force as well. For me, the most hassle free setup is the REO. However, I also went through all the other stuff getting there, as I was rather stubborn and fixed in my perception. I wanted (and still want) to put forth the least amount of effort and achieve the greatest reward. That pushed me to the bottom feeder.

 

[Borescoped]

Yes. I think I'm going to go with @El Scorcho's suggested EVOD kit because they will be operating fairly remotely.

It sounds like the downright simplest way for total elderly newbs to replace smoking with vapor. I mean, all they have to do is pour in juice and vape.

As long as they aren't using tank cracking juices (citruses, strong cinnamons/mints, Pluid type stuff), the EVOD's should be fine. Otherwise, they WILL crack on them... not a good vape. Hence the recommendation of the Kanger Aerotank (has glass and SS tank sections), is basically the ease of the EVOD, much sturdier because of the glass/SS tank interchangeable tank sections. Has airflow control also. Also, different flavored juices perform better at different voltages, is why I suggested something with at least VV.

I'm sure I can replace the heads as needed.

Once they've kicked the habit and are accustomed to vapor in lieu of smoke we can switch them over to REOs.

I think there is still a learning curve there with battery safety and coil wrapping. Get them vaping first... worry about REO's second.

I will likely buy 2 spare batteries for them too.

I'd say 2 batteries for each of them, to be safe. 4 batteries total, minimum.

Does anyone have a discount code for DV?

Don't know if they have any at this time, haven't really paid attention.

I appreciate a your suggestions. Thank you.

No worries! Hopefully you'll succeed! Don't forget to ask them what kinds of flavors they like, or think they'd like (besides cigarette flavored). IMO, different flavors REALLY do help.