Here they are 
My mom is 5 days using her VVG and a carto for 5 days now
. Just hooked her up with a cyclone and step dad is starting today with his VVG and an RM2. Thanks to damsell for the killer VVG. since my mom had the batteries with her I couldn't try it to just now 
My mom is 5 days using her VVG and a carto for 5 days now