I would have loved to have been the bug on the wall with the tape recorder going when the politician was talking to the CEO of Ebay/Paypal when this discussion took place ;-) Priceless
Paypal and E-cigs
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Any e-cigs sold on eBay slipped through the cracks. They don't allow e-cig sales. Cases and coupons yes but no e-cigs or juices.
Seems like their fighting harder and harder everyday against Ecigs. Makes me worried for the future of its use. I for one dont plan on putting down my PV if they ban them. To quote doctor vapor, "If they outlaws ecigs, then only outlaws will have ecigs." Something along those lines 
This is not a new policy, iirc it was already in place 18 months ago when I started vaping.
My brother has been a PayPal subscriber/member for years. He's been using it for his recurring payments and online shopping. He prefers it more than having to fill up credit card info for every purchase, which is unsafe as opposed to just typing your email address and password. I think it's about trust and length of membership. The longer you've been a member, the more likely your orders would be accepted without question. But not many offer PayPal as option for payment.
I've used paypal for years and never had issues. I had not used it for about a year now, and decided to place an order with Health Cabin. They have great prices and good sale items but they only take PayPal. It took me three days to figure out my paypal password and username so I could make an order.
I am sure we are all smart enough to realise that the pressure on vapers is NOT smoking but TAXES. If stats are correct governments can perform their civic duty and campaign heavly for no smoking as the success rate for quiters using government approved devices is 6-8%. As a business person I can loose 6-8% of my business and survive happily. Vaping has a very negative effect for them though stats that I have seen show a 60-67% success rate (either completely quit or cut down considerably.) If I loose 60% of my revenue I am ......ED. So the pressure will be on to belittle, mis-inform and bully.
There is no doubt in my mind that Paypal's decision has been politically influenced.
There is no doubt in my mind that Paypal's decision has been politically influenced.
From Paypal Australia... I think they are in violation of their own policies. It's a bit ambiguous but I think point 2. is where we get shagged!
2.(a) controlled substances (nicotine)
2.(c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (nicotine banned here in Oz to sell or to buy)
Would love your comments... but here it is direct from the horses' mouth so to speak.
Prohibited Activities
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
1. violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation
2. relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law
3. relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other “get rich quick” schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of real property, annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item (such as pre-sale items, click here to learn more), (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f), are associated with the following Money Service Business activities: the sale of traveler’s checks or money orders, currency exchanges or cheque cashing, or (g) provide certain credit repair or debt settlement services
4. involve the sales of products or services identified by government agencies to have a high likelihood of being fraudulent
5. violate applicable laws or industry regulations regarding the sale of (a) tobacco products, or (b) prescription drugs and devices
6. involve gambling, gaming and/or any other activity with an entry fee and a prize, including, but not limited to casino games, sports betting, horse or greyhound racing, lottery tickets, other ventures that facilitate gambling, games of skill (whether or not it is legally defined as a lottery) and sweepstakes unless the operator has obtained prior approval from PayPal and the operator and customers are located exclusively in jurisdictions where such activities are permitted by law.
2.(a) controlled substances (nicotine)
2.(c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (nicotine banned here in Oz to sell or to buy)
Would love your comments... but here it is direct from the horses' mouth so to speak.
Prohibited Activities
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
1. violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation
2. relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law
3. relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other “get rich quick” schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of real property, annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item (such as pre-sale items, click here to learn more), (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f), are associated with the following Money Service Business activities: the sale of traveler’s checks or money orders, currency exchanges or cheque cashing, or (g) provide certain credit repair or debt settlement services
4. involve the sales of products or services identified by government agencies to have a high likelihood of being fraudulent
5. violate applicable laws or industry regulations regarding the sale of (a) tobacco products, or (b) prescription drugs and devices
6. involve gambling, gaming and/or any other activity with an entry fee and a prize, including, but not limited to casino games, sports betting, horse or greyhound racing, lottery tickets, other ventures that facilitate gambling, games of skill (whether or not it is legally defined as a lottery) and sweepstakes unless the operator has obtained prior approval from PayPal and the operator and customers are located exclusively in jurisdictions where such activities are permitted by law.
You can use your PP debit card anywhere that excepts credit cards so you don't have to shop on pp only websites.
Yes, but as they find those, they are closing their accounts. This just happened to an awesome mod vendor.
I think you will find it is the vendors that are complaining not the end users.
They do random audits of accounts, and close those they find that violate their policies.
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