Paypal warned about legal liability

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Straykat

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"ASH, which served the legal notice on PayPal, had earlier warned credit card companies about their facilitation of the illegal sales of cigarettes over the Internet."

There ya go! Nothing that an old fashioned scare tactic couldn't take care of.

"..."appears to be aiding and abetting the sale of these illegal products..."

Since when did e-cigs become illegal in this country? From what I've read (or not read), not a single state has made them "illegal".
 

ladyraj

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"ASH, which served the legal notice on PayPal, had earlier warned credit card companies about their facilitation of the illegal sales of cigarettes over the Internet."

There ya go! Nothing that an old fashioned scare tactic couldn't take care of.

"..."appears to be aiding and abetting the sale of these illegal products..."

Since when did e-cigs become illegal in this country? From what I've read (or not read), not a single state has made them "illegal".

Interestingly, Banzhaf has not produced this "warning" that was delivered to PayPal. There are links to every other warning letter....but the one regarding e-cigs to paypal is strangely not offered as proof this was a result of their endeavors. Sales of cigarettes are mentioned but not the e-cig. :confused:

Or am I missing something?
 
Here are Mr. Banzhaf's critics. Maybe they could already have a vested interest in dis-crediting this ego driven idiot.

[edit] Criticisms
There has been much criticism of Banzhaf's work and of Banzhaf personally.

Many critics are uneasy about his use of litigation. Rick Berman, executive director of the Center for Consumer Freedom, a food trade group, said, "He's using the judicial process for PR value."[14] George Landrith, president of the conservative think tank Frontiers of Freedom Institute said "He's abusing the court system".[8]

Banzhaf has been accused of ignoring or destroying the concept of personal responsibility. For example, in 2006 Ezra Levant wrote in the National Post, "Banzhaf was the health-law strategist who destroyed the concept of personal responsibility when it came to smoking."[15] But Banzhaf denies that there has been any loss of personal responsibility. He was quoted in 2003 in the Hartford Courant saying, [11]

Is there a sudden loss of personal responsibility? No—because we would see it in other areas: sudden increases in drunkenness, teenage pregnancy, drug abuse deaths. Clearly there is no decline in personal responsibility.

Writer Richard Kluger is critical of Banzhaf's organizational skills, saying that he has failed to build up ASH as a strong organization because he was unwilling to share the spotlight with others, and that ASH was a vehicle for Banzhaf to make appearances before Congress and on television.[10]:310,506

Adrian Brune, writing in 2005 in American Lawyer, said that Banzhaf's chief legal foe is the Frontiers of Freedom Institute's George Landrith.[8] A few years ago the Institute launched a web site, banzhafwatch.com, devoted to recording all available information about Banzhaf and his activities.[8] The site's slogan was "Keeping an eye on the man who wants to sue America". The site went inactive in mid-2006,[16] and the Institute may have lost interest in Banzhaf.

Reason, a libertarian magazine, gives Banzhaf much critical attention. For example, in a 2002 article, Charles Paul Freund wrote that Banzhaf did not win any victories over the tobacco companies, that he specializes in "using the courts to hurt relatively powerless people," and that the issue for Banzhaf is "the terrifying possibility that somewhere there are people enjoying themselves." [17]

Pro-smoking websites and blogs such as FORCES[18] carry much critical comment about Banzhaf.
 

ravengrim

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This guy has serious issues.

But he seemed so reasonable!
From forces
"Of all the hostages to fortune that Banzhaf has left in his 40 year career, this is the most ironic. Today, Banzhaf is at the forefront of the food wars. Just thirteen years after scoffing at the idea of Haagen Dazs coming under attack, he referred to ice-cream as a "coronary in a cone" and sent a letter to six ice-cream manufacturers telling them that they had been "put on legal notice that they may be sued if they don't begin disclosing just how much artery-clogging fat and calories their offerings contain."

These companies included Baskin-Robbins, Ben & Jerry's, Cold Stone Creamery, Friendly's, TCBY and - of course - Haagen-Dazs."
 

Rexa

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Since when did e-cigs become illegal in this country? From what I've read (or not read), not a single state has made them "illegal".

Not a state yet persay, but a county in New York is already close to banning them soon. If one area bans them then the ban has a potential of going viral to other areas.
 
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iam0z

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Now the fact that the E-Cig doesn't have FDA approval seems to give me a sense of comfort. I am not the least bit interested in killing myself any faster than living in a manner of what I consider to be comfortable and I want to put dieing off as long as possible, but, rest assured if I ever change my mind about that I will use an FDA approved drug to treat some ailment that I may have at that time knowing that it will most likely kill me and my loved ones that survive me will have a source of gathering substantial income to continue their lives when they sue the manufacturer of that FDA approved substance.
 
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