Has anyone started a class action suit on behalf of all the ecig distributors yet? I'd like to join it.
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From what i understand, Paypal is a private company, and as such can decide to not service someone at a whim. Don't even need a reason to suspend service. It would make it difficult to do a class action suit based on that ruling.
On what grounds? Paypal is a privately owned business who can choose to do business with whomever they would like (excluding characteristics protected by law). Since the suppliers are provided what is perceived as an illegal product, Paypal has every right to refuse business.
Well actually it is not that simple. A private company has to abide by anti trust rules if it has achieved monopoly status. The government was able to sue Microsoft for billions based on the way it defined its dominance on desktop Operating Systems. The fact that paypal is the only game on ebay does give them a lot of leverage. One can contend that they have a monopoly on "email based payment transactions". They have to take certain steps to make sure they do not leverage their monopoly status to create barriers of entry for other companies to enter other markets. I am not in any way a lawyer but I'm certain that an intelligent lawyer type can or has already planned a lawsuit.
I think PP changed their t&c overnight....
I was constantly keeping my eye on it, because umm, well I wanna be legal!
They did a major change recent...
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I myself can ban someone from ordering from my site...I can block their IP addy.
About the monopoly law, lets dig deeper, please!
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Rob
I was constantly keeping my eye on it, because umm, well I wanna be legal!
They did a major change recent...
But on topic:
I myself can ban someone from ordering from my site...I can block their IP addy.
About the monopoly law, lets dig deeper, please!
Thanks,
Rob
In this case they wouldn't be a monopoly as there are other ways to pay. Cash, credit card, money order, etc.
Religion is an organization of a group of individuals with the same foundation of principles and belief. ECF is the same. It's legit discrimination and any good lawyer would be able to fight it. It takes manpower and resources--that's all.
C'mon...we live in a land where some dumbs**t can spill hot coffee in her lap and then sue the company that sold it for $3 million. And win. Surely, a decent lawyer can find some way to sue Paypal over this.
Wow, short and sweet. Is this the new Big Jim?
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I have been researching this for awhile now and the idea is extremely rough... however... filing with the FTC, we would have to prove that someone else did something to us. And I don't think paypal would fit into this.
It would have to be someone who sells the same type of product as us... nicotine. So... we would have two places to look and we would have to prove to the FTC that this "competitor" was doing something to keep us unfairly out of the market. Now, I haven't been able to find anything that notes an industry against an industry... companies against each other for sure... but I also live in the "fantasy" land that the e-cig is going to change up quite a bit and new rules and roads will be paved. So anything is possible.
An example: if a crafty tobacco company could come up with the right proof to prove that PM used Congress to pass legislation to keep their competitors out of the market, then that would merit looking into by the FTC.
It's all very interesting and from what I have read, and I am not a lawyer, we are not quite there yet. If the FDA keeps going the route they are, and the judge finds for SE and/or nJoy, we are one step closer to it for sure.
But this brings up another question: Could you lodge a complaint with the FTC against the FDA? We all know the FDA gets much of its funding from pharma and now they will get quite a bit from tobacco... so if they make it impossible for the ecig industry to submit and apply, then would that be grounds for complaint? The fact that they are not allowing a new industry to take it's place, rightfully so in the market through proper approval?
One thing is for certain, we have to wait to do anything for when the Judge rules. At that point, several paths will be laid out for us and from there... we will be able to tell which is the best route to go.
For now, we will do what we have done for the last two years and adapt. Paypal is not the end of this industry.
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I am part owner of a e-bay store as well, basically a place that people that don't understand, or don't have the time to put things on ebay can bring what they want to sell. And we take a percentage. It's a very very common operation, and we do nothing out of the norm, but about once a year, either e-bay or paypal will completely turn off our accounts because of some quietly rewritten policy they have. Paypal and eBay are both junk, but... nobody else is doing it, so we just have to tolerate the crap.
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