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That got me thinking. I just compared my Provari to the Buzzpro. I set the Provari at 3.7 volts with my Magno at 1.4 ohms. Underload is dead on at 3.7 volts.
I set the Buzzpro and Magno so it matches the Provari. Both are running at 9.778 watts.
Damn it man ! The Buzzpro produces better vapor and flavor.
I wonder what the amperage is on the Buzzpro?
I set the Buzzpro and Magno so it matches the Provari. Both are running at 9.778 watts.
Damn it man ! The Buzzpro produces better vapor and flavor.
I wonder what the amperage is on the Buzzpro?
Actually all VW devices do not have VV. The Vamo V3 will not have VV. The Darwin does not have VV. My strong guess from what I have read is that there will be many more VW only model PV's in the near future.
For what I will call the "purest" or "hobbist" or "fiddler", I can see the attraction of VV more than VW. Plus, currently in the growth of vaping, VV is more common. But for the "masses", it's pretty obvious why they would prefer VW over VV. Not stating one is better than the other, just that one is more "set & forget" than the other.
I think an apt comparison is in the auto industry. There are those who like to use "cruise control" on the highway and those who want to maintain their speed themselves and make "slight" adjustments on their own. When crusie control first came out, many were wary of it. Now the vast majority use it all the time.
The easier it becomes to get a "good" vaping experience in a closer to "automatic" formate, the greater chance that more people will convert to vaping. There will always be options for the fiddler but I can see how VW is a logical step in the evolution of vaping.
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It really all comes down to how much do you want to play with your device? If I blindfold you and give you the same setup at 3.9v, 8watts(4v), and 4.1v your not gonna tell a difference. Now lets take the same devices at the same settings and give you three different resistance tanks,9 hits in all. The 3 hits at 8watts will be the same and the other 6 will vary. One way is no better than the other they are just different in how you use them. I call vw the Ronco setting because " you just set it and forget it!"
Neither of the PV's you mentioned are currently on the market so I'll stand by that statement.
I understand what your saying and where youre coming from with this but I still say VW appeals to those who make things (sometimes overly) complicated for their themselves and create the need for a device to make everything simpler.
Im fortunate that all of my juices taste best at 5.2 volts on a 3.0ohm carto. I change tanks out when I get bored with a flavor but other than that I dont vary much myself. I found what works for me a long time ago and I have no need to have one juice in an RBA at 1.1 ohms ....another in a clearo with 2.2 ohms, the third , fourth and fifth in a Vivi Nova at 3ohms etc etc etc.
Seems awfully complicated for something that serves as a replacement for a cigarette, which was the simplest thing in the world to use.
Vaping itself is really confusing for those just starting out....so many juices and different delivery devices to try. I can see where VW would be appealing from that perspective but cant help but wonder if it doesnt hurt in the long run by not encouraging people to keep it simple to begin with.
You might not be able to taste the difference on a Vamo but on my Provari I CAN taste the difference between 3.9v, 4.0v and 4.1vs. This has to do with PWM and the Vamo not using a line filter to keep the output constant. The Vamo arrives at an average wattage with a pretty considerable range in dips and spikes, thats where the " rattlesnake" comes from. Im not knocking your device, for the money its great but it isnt as accurate as a Provari by any stretch of the imagination.
Actually, I think you are making my point for me but coming to the wrong conclusion. VW, being more "set & forget" does make vaping less complicated and easier. People being people, are influenced to try new options. (think cell phones) With VW, when you want to try that "next new atty/carto", you don't even have to think about the resistence. Again, easier, simpler and less to configure or consider.
And then there is the factor that as you use an atty/carto, etc, the resistence changes just through use. VW adjusts for that. VV does not.
But that is a moot point in this discussion. There are VW devices that are well made and accurate. If Provari comes out with a VW model (as I suspect they will), I would guess it will have the same build characteristics as the current model. I found no difference in taste between the Darwin and the Provari. The Darwin has .1 watt increments.
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I set my Vamo usally at 8.5 to 10 watts,i perfer VW as opposed too VV,this way i get the same vape right too the end of the batt.
Lol were gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I dont think Im coming to the wrong conclusion at all.
If youre a complicated person VW might well be the best choice for you.
If youre a jeans and t-shirt kinda guy and only shop when you need something then VV is probably the best option for you.
My whole point is the VW is not the next step in the evolution of vaping. Its filling a niche for a certain kind of person.
For someone like me its far from a necessity.
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Really, lol??? Not needing to make adjustments is more complicated that needing to making adjustments??? I guess we live in different universes, lol.
If that's what you read in the words I wrote, I can't stop you from seeing what you want to see.
FOR YOU NEW FOLKS! Here:
1. VV and VW are NOT the same thing. VW adjusts whatever delivery device you're using to set wattage, while VV does not.
2. zapped feels very strongly that VW is better than VV, while dplongo22 feels more, "Six of one, half-dozen of the other"*.
3. Bullet #1 is a fact, while bullet #2 is a difference of opinion; and dplongo22 certainly respects zapped's.
4. Both VW and VV and really, REALLY good; unless you're into sub-ohm vaping, but we'll cover that in a later chapter.
* doesn't really care which he's using - loves them both.
Wishing you newbs nothing but success in whatever you choose,
DPL
What the hell? I never said VW is better than VV. Lol sure you didnt get that turned around in your head?
Then I misread you. I wasn't attempting to confuse anyone with my earlier comments. People come here looking for opinions - I gave mine. I don't think everyone should feel like I do. I like Android, my wife prefers iPhones. That's cool with me - I pay for them both, either way.
I still find the need to adjust W depending on what I'm vaping. Some clearos and some liquids ask for more power. For instance, my eVod with a 1.8 ohm head and HHV Angel's kiss 60/40 likes to be vaped at 9 W. HHV Legend same blend on a Vapeonly BCC with a 2.2 ohm head won't go further than 8 W before giving burnt taste. As the tank goes lower or the battery depleted I have to go up in W. The "screw and forget" wattage mode isn't working for me.
I guess we do.
Youre not understanding what Im attempting to say here.
I use ONE resistance for all of my cartos. I always use a Phiniac Tank. I have three juices that I rotate through. Pretty simple right? I dont need to make adjustments because Ive eliminated that from my vaping routine.
Thats why I dont need variable wattage. Im not complicated, therefore I dont need a device to make things easier for me.
For sake of illustration, lets say you use have 5 different juice delivery systems.You use one for one juice at 2.2ohms, the other is an RBA at 1.1ohms, the third is a clearo at 3.0ohms, fourth is a Vivi Nova etc etc and you switch them on the fly all the time.You have 15 different juices you cycle through when the mood strikes you. That's pretty complicated.
You NEED a device to make things simpler for you because YOURE complicated.I wasnt saying the device was complicated.
Im also not knocking either method, just pointing out that each will appeal to different people for different reasons. One isnt superior over the other or the next step in vaping.There's room for all of us here.
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No one here is right, no one here is wrong (other than a couple of people who are saying, "I'm right and everyone else is wrong"). It's all personal preference. Whatever works for you is best (for you). As usual, this is a completely silly argument.
I sometimes wonder if a mech with a kick is better... Since you have to open the whole thing to change the wattage of the kick, what is better? A VW or a mod with a kick?
Given a choice, I prefer mods. But I don't vape sub-ohm, and my luck with Kicks hasn't been great.
Wait mechanical mods are only for sub ohms & kicks? Crap I've been vaping wrong for a year and a half! 
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