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Moshmarr

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I've been worried about this too, although I use VG. From the Wiki:
propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
 

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I work as a volunteer for a National Cat Charity in the UK. So I am surrounded by cats. I do vape PG, however, I am careful that if my ecig leaks, which they do at various times, I clean the area immediately. The biggest danger is when a cat walks through PG, as it will then lick its paws.

Each year we have many cases of cats being poisoned by the Antifreeze put into garden water features. Here in the UK it still contains Ethylene Glycol, which is far more toxic than Propylene Glycol, which the US use.

Some of my cats are indoor only cats, so they are subjected to plumes of PG, and are regularly checked over by a Vet, all are ok. Now I am not saying it cant affect them, of course it can, but, its got to healthier for them than all that tobacco smoke we once subjected them to.

I think the whole PG related to Cats thing has been subject to a massive over reaction, be careful, clean up, and all should be fine.

I have spoken to various Veterinary Surgeons about this, and they affirm what I have just said.
 

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PG shouldn't be a concern for pets. It was developed with safety in mind since kids, and mostly pets, were attracted to the sweet taste of its highly toxic sister ethylene. That's why PG is used as antifreeze now. The only danger to a pet that laps up a puddle of PG is a temporary case of hershey squirts. It's the nicotine in eliquids that's dangerous to kids and pets, not the PG :).
 

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As Victor says, its Ethylne Glycol that is toxic, and because there is a misconception around that we as vapers, are vaping Antifreeze, and yes, I have had people say that to me, the two have got mixed up.

PG is toxic to cats, but, the amount they would have to ingest would be very high, and trust me, a cat is not stupid, they will not lap a saucer of PG, as the taste is not attractive to them. EG on the other hand, has a sweet enticing taste, hence children are at risk from it.

Here in the UK we have tried petitioning the Government to follow the US example over Antifreeze, but until a child dies, they will do nothing.

Several of my cats like the smell of some of the juices I vape, especially the sweeter ones, like Coconut Ice or RY4, and if there are a few of us vaping, the cats go from person to person, sniffing the air, almost as through they are doing a comparison of smells.

We all changed to Vaping as we thought it would be healthier for us, and a safer environment for our families, with fresher air to breathe, PG and its antiseptic qualities, aids that, so lets just remind ourselves all the time of our health and safety. Keep our Nicotine safe and out of reach of children, wipe up spills immediately and our homes will be a safer place for our families and pets.
 

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fermthe, we can only respond to that question with the knowledge we have gained so far. No-one has vaped long enough to carry out any long term studies on that. So all I can say to you is this.

I have 7 long term cats at my home, they have all been with me the whole 2 years I, my husband and daughter, have been vaping. If there was a hazard, I surely would have seen some symptom by now.

One is a Siamese which are known for respitory problems, this one does have such a problem, but tests done by my Vet, have shown that PG is not deemed to be a contributory factor, in fact, my Vet is delighted I now vape instead of smoke, as that would have aggravated her condition.

PG is used in Hospitals as airborne sanitisation, also to clean hard surfaces. So we do know it has antiseptic qualities, but we also know that some antiseptics are harmful to Cats ( any antiseptic that turns milky when diluted in water ) so we always need to be careful and considerate, so by not vaping directly into a cats face, its not likely that the amount of vapour containing PG we are forcing into the atmosphere at home is going to do much in the way of damage to our pets.
 
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