I may be sensitive to PG as I'm showing some of the signs. My question is does anyone have any experience with how much PG content a PG sensitive person might be able to tolerate (10, 20, 50%)? or.. are people who are PG sensitive going to need 100%VG? I know reactions are going to vary based on personal sensitivity but I'm looking for general experiences so I don't waste money buying every PG/VG/H2O combination. I'd like to narrow it down a bit. Thanks.
PG Sensitivty?
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Try a small bottle of something PG-free, and see how you feel.
If the 100% VG base is too thick, you can dilute it down with a few drops of distilled water from any grocery store.
That's a cheap and easy way of telling whether or not you're truly sensitive to PG.
If the 100% VG base is too thick, you can dilute it down with a few drops of distilled water from any grocery store.
That's a cheap and easy way of telling whether or not you're truly sensitive to PG.
I agree. When I started I got a bottle of 100% of both just to make sure I was not sensitive to either. If you think you are sensitive you could do the same but add the PG slowly to see when you start showing signs
Would not recommend vaping 100% PG if you think you are allergic..
You are asking for a bad time
Would not recommend vaping 100% PG if you think you are allergic..
You are asking for a bad time
Papabogart, I can only share my experience, as Im only 35 days off analogs. I started with Halo juices, and they dont disclose their pg/vg. I then went to 50/50, which was great At a local B& M shop, loved their flavor, but started itching when I vaped all day. After checking, it was 80/20. I put it away, itching stopped. Went back to it, started itching and got raw throat. Just my experience, maybe it was the vendor flavoring or something, but ive vaped 60/40 and 50/50 since, with no problems.
Just be aware that a lot of flavorings use PG as a carrier.
Most vendors are good about disclosing the "maximum possible VG" thing, but you may still end up with a small percentage of PG in your juice if you're not careful.
I doubt it would be enough to give you a reaction, but it's worth mentioning.
Most vendors are good about disclosing the "maximum possible VG" thing, but you may still end up with a small percentage of PG in your juice if you're not careful.
I doubt it would be enough to give you a reaction, but it's worth mentioning.
i used to have issues with 80/20 mixes so i jumped to 50/50 and felt the flavor wasn't quite there for me. I find 60/40 or 65/35 depending on supplier to be a nice mix. AiV though is heavy vg and I love their juice
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and heads up advice.
Melis, thanks for the personal experience, it is helpful to know that you can tolerate some PG as I understand PG is important for flavor and TH. I think I'll try a small sample at 40/60 and adjust from there.
Thanks again all
Melis, thanks for the personal experience, it is helpful to know that you can tolerate some PG as I understand PG is important for flavor and TH. I think I'll try a small sample at 40/60 and adjust from there.
Thanks again all
I am sensitive to PG,raw/itchy throat and ears, and bloody sinuses. I have no problems at all on AVE's "PG" juice, which is 10/90 PG to VG.
Thanks for the info. Now I feel like I know where to start, since I am new to vaping and having a bit of reaction to something in the juice.
Definitely want to be careful when looking for juice. And not assume what the ratio is . Some boutique juices don't even say the ratio.
Yes, I think I am finding this true also. I actually can get a bit of a cough if I vape high PG levels. I also feel that I really like the smoothness of the taste of vg. Most of my 50/50 works well for me but I have some 70/30 and it bothers me. Most of them have extra flavor so I will be cutting some with VG and I have some WTA that I can add drops in if needed.
Well let's define "I don't like PG" versus those who have a real negative reaction to it.
You can find it's harsh and just don't like the experience. PG by it's nature can produce harshness, but not liking it isn't really an adverse/allergic reaction either.
The people who are allergic to it seem to fall into two broad categories: The people who can tolerate the amount of PG used in flavorings as a carrier - and that may amount to up to 20% of a mixed liquid. And those unfortunate folks who cannot tolerate any PG in any amount at all without having a full blown allergic reaction to it. I fall into the "up to 20% category" - but I also take antihistamines every day.
Symptoms? Well one person posted intense itching. That is a very real symptom of an allergic reaction and not something to be messed with. According to my allergist that indicates the allergic reaction is producing nerve damage. Other fun possibilities can include chronic nausea while vaping, vomiting, difficulty breathing, numbness in the extremities, headache and dermal reactions on the face that can look like acne or roseacia. There are others - those are the ones I can remember right now.
How you tell if it's an issue or how much of an issue? Simple - you eliminate it. First, stop vaping period and see if the symptoms also stop within two hours. If you had a problem and it went away... Next step is to move onto high VG (100 VG liquids with PG only in the flavorings) or 100 VG and see if, hopefully, the problems don't present again.
My entire experience with high PG liquids lasted all of my first four days of vaping. By day four the reaction to vaping a 100 PG liquid was so intense that it put me off vaping anything for the next three days. In my case it was nausea, vomiting, difficulty breathing - like my lungs were lined with wet cheesecloth, and intense bursts of itching on my forearms and hands. Believe me, if you have a genuine adverse/allergic problem with PG the symptoms won't be subtle.
You can find it's harsh and just don't like the experience. PG by it's nature can produce harshness, but not liking it isn't really an adverse/allergic reaction either.
The people who are allergic to it seem to fall into two broad categories: The people who can tolerate the amount of PG used in flavorings as a carrier - and that may amount to up to 20% of a mixed liquid. And those unfortunate folks who cannot tolerate any PG in any amount at all without having a full blown allergic reaction to it. I fall into the "up to 20% category" - but I also take antihistamines every day.
Symptoms? Well one person posted intense itching. That is a very real symptom of an allergic reaction and not something to be messed with. According to my allergist that indicates the allergic reaction is producing nerve damage. Other fun possibilities can include chronic nausea while vaping, vomiting, difficulty breathing, numbness in the extremities, headache and dermal reactions on the face that can look like acne or roseacia. There are others - those are the ones I can remember right now.
How you tell if it's an issue or how much of an issue? Simple - you eliminate it. First, stop vaping period and see if the symptoms also stop within two hours. If you had a problem and it went away... Next step is to move onto high VG (100 VG liquids with PG only in the flavorings) or 100 VG and see if, hopefully, the problems don't present again.
My entire experience with high PG liquids lasted all of my first four days of vaping. By day four the reaction to vaping a 100 PG liquid was so intense that it put me off vaping anything for the next three days. In my case it was nausea, vomiting, difficulty breathing - like my lungs were lined with wet cheesecloth, and intense bursts of itching on my forearms and hands. Believe me, if you have a genuine adverse/allergic problem with PG the symptoms won't be subtle.
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My brother has to use 100% PG also. He has COPD and it is the only thing he can vape. PG really irritates his bronchial tubes Glad he got off the analogs. He is using his inhaler much less now.
It's been over a month since you posted this question, but I'm wondering what signs you were showing? ... did you narrow it down yet?
Here's my general experience in the past year or so. I wasted a lot of time and money figuring out that the burning throat and tongue, coughing, sinus issues as if I was in full blown allergy/hay fever season and itching, burning eyes etc. were related to some of the PG based eliquids. Sensitivity can change too, so it might be possible to build up a bit of a tolerance to it. I generally vape 100% VG eliquids that I buy premade from a few vendors and/or DIY my own just to avoid the issues now. When I vape a liquid that has a small amount of PG because the flavor is PG based, I get the symptoms within a few minutes. However, when I return to vaping the 100% VG eliquids the symptoms/reactions disappear.
Good luck!
I've noticed more and more that I have difficulty breathing to the point of requiring an inhaler (I have asthma) when vaping anything with a high PG content. I think it gives me a headache too, but not sure yet. I seem to do ok so far on smaller amounts, but we'll see how long that lasts...
Wow, Rick, you did it again. That's the best explanation I've heard yet and I learned a lot from this. Thank you, my friend!
My reaction has steadily gotten worse over time, too. I experimented with a 65/35 PG/VG blend a in under 30 minutes, I had a major rash over half my body and had breathing difficulties. So far I can still handle enough to carry flavorings, but I too take antihistamines almost daily. As another note, my immunologist says allergic reactions typically worsen with exposure, so we'll see...
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