PG users vs. VG users

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tazuo

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Same for me 100% VG i felt really bed vaping PG you can't belive headaches with temple pressure ,anxiety ,insomnia at the beginning i tought that synthoms were caused from to much nicotine but was strange caused i vaped a lot of less than the majority of my friends after i thought were the withdrawal of smoked cause increased after few days.
But after i swith from a day to other to 100%VG i felt much better and i vaped a lot also during the day i switched to VG...

I belive to many people find problems with propylene let me think is not a really good substance for the health...
And in my opinion is not dangerous by it self but mixed with nicotine...
The hit enchance is weird compared with the same nicotine concentration with vg...
And if you try propi glycol with 0 nic you don't get any hit so has something to do mixing with nicotine...
 

Rickajho

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100 VG here. Or as close as I can get.

My intro to vaping was with high PG liquids and I was having allergic reactions to it from day one. By day four: nausea, vomiting, difficulty breathing and insane itching on my hands and forearms. Stopped vaping anything at that point, did my research, switched to VG liquids (once I got past my fear of starting again) and haven't had a problem since. Also, I discussed this with my allergist and he had no doubt I experienced an allergic reaction. Said allergic reaction to PG used in all sorts of products comes up frequently in the clinic.

Two points:

Allergic or adverse reaction to PG is the exception, not the rule. So don't go freaking out reading posts from people who do experience problems. But noobs do need to be aware of the possibility and in those first days of trying stuff out should purchase liquids in both high PG and high VG just to rule out any question(s) regarding adverse reaction. I'm glad I bought both types of liquids in my first order so I had an in-hand way to figure out what was going on. If you can vape PG or vape VG more power to ya. If ya can't at least you will have a way to figure things out if your first order contained both types of liquids.

There is always the back and forth about what PG to VG ratio provides the best vaping experience and there always will be that discussion. All I know is my experience with high PG liquids was so short lived that if I'm missing anything... I wouldn't even know it. I do know to buy hardware that works better with thicker VG liquids, but that's about the only inconvenience. For me, 100 VG = still not smoking.
 

Boothvilleboi

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30pg70vg, I was a 100% VG guy for about a year, but the PG helps with the flavor in the mixes, and it adds TH. Also it makes the juice a little thinner and I'm really satisfied with this ratio. I believe a mix of both is necessary to complete a good juice. The VG adds great vapor production and makes me feel better about myself when i exhale huge clouds lol.
 

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I've noticed while vaping heavy with VG I get oily sticky mucus from my nose and it worries me a bit. I can feel the thick glycerin in my snot. Literally if I take it in my mouth and exhale through my nose sticky glycerin droplets will spritz out. I bought a bunch of VG e-juice on the assumption that it was better in every way to PG but I think I prefer the throat hit of more PG blend. I have about 180ml of pure VG stuff and can't afford to buy anything else for some time so lesson learned. This can't be good.
 

Buggs5347

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100 VG here. Or as close as I can get.

My intro to vaping was with high PG liquids and I was having allergic reactions to it from day one. By day four: nausea, vomiting, difficulty breathing and insane itching on my hands and forearms. Stopped vaping anything at that point, did my research, switched to VG liquids (once I got past my fear of starting again) and haven't had a problem since. Also, I discussed this with my allergist and he had no doubt I experienced an allergic reaction. Said allergic reaction to PG used in all sorts of products comes up frequently in the clinic.

Two points:

Allergic or adverse reaction to PG is the exception, not the rule. So don't go freaking out reading posts from people who do experience problems. But noobs do need to be aware of the possibility and in those first days of trying stuff out should purchase liquids in both high PG and high VG just to rule out any question(s) regarding adverse reaction. I'm glad I bought both types of liquids in my first order so I had an in-hand way to figure out what was going on. If you can vape PG or vape VG more power to ya. If ya can't at least you will have a way to figure things out if your first order contained both types of liquids.

There is always the back and forth about what PG to VG ratio provides the best vaping experience and there always will be that discussion. All I know is my experience with high PG liquids was so short lived that if I'm missing anything... I wouldn't even know it. I do know to buy hardware that works better with thicker VG liquids, but that's about the only inconvenience. For me, 100 VG = still not smoking.

Same for me 100% VG i felt really bed vaping PG you can't belive headaches with temple pressure ,anxiety ,insomnia at the beginning i tought that synthoms were caused from to much nicotine but was strange caused i vaped a lot of less than the majority of my friends after i thought were the withdrawal of smoked cause increased after few days.
But after i swith from a day to other to 100%VG i felt much better and i vaped a lot also during the day i switched to VG...

I belive to many people find problems with propylene let me think is not a really good substance for the health...
And in my opinion is not dangerous by it self but mixed with nicotine...
The hit enchance is weird compared with the same nicotine concentration with vg...
And if you try propi glycol with 0 nic you don't get any hit so has something to do mixing with nicotine...

Fortunately for me, I started with a system that uses 100% VG and had quit cigs and been vaping for a month before I tried juices with PG in them and the PG was only what was in the flavoring. OMG, I had all the same symptoms you both describe and more. Weird headaches in the temples, nightmares, depression, itching and the absolute worse mouth ulcers. Stop the PG and the symptoms went away, except for it took 2 weeks or so for the mouth ulcers to heal. I cannot even just test a PG based juice more than a couple vapes without it affecting me, usually with a mouth ulcer by the end of the day. No PG for me, no thank you.
 
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