PG/VG Nicotine base

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AndriaD

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I think I'm ordering it in pg. I'm thinking of storage since I'll have more of it than before. I've been mixing long before I started vaping. I didn't switch from analogues until august lol but was mixing juice before that. The nicotine was only 36mg and I already had pg and vg from other things I make.(and tons of flavors also) So when my daughter and her besty started using vapors I thought, you guys are paying too much for your juice at the same time my daughter said "couldn't you make it for us" (because of other things I make) I said well I'll have to study about nicotine and I ended up with some without having to order or buy it. But now its more about me than it is them hahahahahahaa.

as for those that say you get more throat hit with higher nicotine, i agree yes, but I do notice a big difference with higher vg juice having less throat hit than a higher pg. anyhow, i spent a week thinking I was ordering nicotine in 50/50 and after reading some things above and elsewhere I think i'm going with pg. Now I'm also changing my mind about ordering 100mg nicotine but this thread is about the solution to actually order the nicotine in so I guess I have to find a thread elsewhere about that tehehehee

I realize this may not apply to everyone, or even to many, but since I vape at 10mg, I find the 100mg nicotine very easy to use -- if I'm making 10ml, it's 1ml of nicotine -- 30ml, 3ml of nicotine, and so on. It's also much easier to store, being so highly concentrated; I have about a quarter-liter of 100mg nicotine in my freezer; in 30ml bottles, it takes up practically no room at all.

At first I was really fearful of it, as strong as it is, always gloving up and putting on a mask. I find I'm not so terrified of it anymore; if I'm just going to grab 1ml with a syringe, I often don't even glove up anymore. If I happen to spill any, well that's a different matter; I do glove up to make sure I don't get any on my skin while mopping up the spill. But it's funny; as my fear of it has declined, I'm not so clumsy and awkward with it, so much less likely to spill it. :D

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aaaahhhh that is a good point actually!! THANKYOU higher nic level, less to store...don't know why i didn't think of that! DUH lol.

..I was going for 100 because the 36 I started with went quicker than I could believe and that was when I mixed it for my daughter who vapes a fraction of what I do now that I've started. Since I'll be making it for myself I thought the 100 was more practical but started worry about crap I've read since I have dogs and a 7 yr old.AND I worried about me dripping it. Even tho they are NOWHERE NEAR when I'm mixing.
ordering the pg and vg didn't seem like a concern at all. I have (and keep) vg all of the time because of other things i use it for. If I ever ran out I'd still order it and not run out to buy it since I'd rather shop online since I don't leave the house much. I'm just stuck here mostly due to some things. So ordering everything I need isn't an issue for me. So now i've made the decision to order the nicotine in pg instead of 50/50 I started wondering if instead of 100 I should do like 60.........So to you that are posting, you are those that don't think 100 is an issue i guess. :) I've had some people scold me saying not to do it. :)
On to my next decision of how much to actually order lol Here I was mixing for my daughter for several months and now that I'm vaping I've been buying ejuice hahaha and can make my own at a fraction of the cost so i'm anxious to order my nicotine solution.
 

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Ya, I would say the 100 is the way to go... I have spilled some right on my hands and belly before and it's really no big deal, just wash it off. Think of it this way, the accepted lethal dosage of Nicotine for a human is on average between 0.5 and 1 MG per KG of a persons weight. A lerger man round 90ish KG (about 200 pounds or so) makes a lethal dosage of only about 45MG total. (Ingested orally, swallowed all at once) So, even a SMALL 10ML bottle of 6MG/ML juice would be well over the average lethal dosage for nicotine, so anyone who says that 100MG NIC is more dangerous than lower concentrations just never looked up how toxic nicotine can actually be. So using safety as a basis to not buy the highest % NIC available is, for sure, superfluous. I think the convenience factor is a MUCH bigger deal than anything else when it comes to percentages and whatnot. I hear in some other countries that 75 is the highest they can get. I'm in the US so 100MG is easy to get. I hope I helped a little bit :D
 

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Ya, I would say the 100 is the way to go... I have spilled some right on my hands and belly before and it's really no big deal, just wash it off. Think of it this way, the accepted lethal dosage of Nicotine for a human is on average between 0.5 and 1 MG per KG of a persons weight. A lerger man round 90ish KG (about 200 pounds or so) makes a lethal dosage of only about 45MG total. (Ingested orally, swallowed all at once) So, even a SMALL 10ML bottle of 6MG/ML juice would be well over the average lethal dosage for nicotine, so anyone who says that 100MG NIC is more dangerous than lower concentrations just never looked up how toxic nicotine can actually be. So using safety as a basis to not buy the highest % NIC available is, for sure, superfluous. I think the convenience factor is a MUCH bigger deal than anything else when it comes to percentages and whatnot. I hear in some other countries that 75 is the highest they can get. I'm in the US so 100MG is easy to get. I hope I helped a little bit :D

That's all true about the potential toxicity of it, but one thing I also always keep in mind when working with the 100mg is that nicotine is easily absorbed thru the skin, and to me, nausea/vomiting is both my primary symptom of nic OD, *and* my own personal "fate worse than death" ;) -- so if I need to clean up a 100mg mess, I do put the gloves on. But, just to draw 1ml, I really don't bother anymore. I've also been thinking of getting some of those caps you can pierce with a needle -- MyFreedomSmokes has them. I wouldn't use them for my freezer bottles, but for my "working bottle" in the fridge, that would be really handy, and help to prevent oxidation from taking the lid off just to draw some up.

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Oh my, I didnt mean to imply that someone shouldn't use gloves.:ohmy: For sure, when working with ANY NIC level it's just smart to wear gloves. I made some stupid mistakes and got some 100MG on my belly, was mixing shirtless like a plain stupid man, and I got that weird metallic taste in my mouth and was getting dizzy.:laugh: I've never vomited because I am a HUGE man.:blush: I'm 6'4" (193CM) 400LBS (Just over 181 KG or 28.5 stone) and so it takes a LOT of NIC to make me feel over NIC'ed. Some minor safety precautions and using your head should be enough to keep anyone safe from the NIC OD symptoms.:)
 
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