phillip morris buys Nocigs in the UK
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Maybe PM feels that the Ancient Technology is all that will be Allowed in a US Regulated Market?
Or that in the long run, the market will become less regulated. Or they think they can establish Substantial Equivalence for 2nd or 3rd generation ecigs... with enough money for bribes and paperwork.
That could be Also.
And it Might just be a case of Doing Business the Microsoft way. By Buying Out any potential Competition.
Possible but the fact that cig sales are dropping and ecig sales are booming is most likely a more significant factor. And being 'last' now Phillip Morris inherits the "Kodak award"
Possible but the fact that cig sales are dropping and ecig sales are booming is most likely a more significant factor. And being 'last' now Phillip Morris inherits the "Kodak award"
But when I buy an e-Cigarette company, am I buy it's Technology? Or am I buying it's Contracts, Distribution and Receivables?
Doesn't seem like any Big Deal to "Sell" Fixed Voltage PV's. Pick up the Phone and place an Order for 100,000 510's or eGo's with you name Silk Screened on them.
But then you need a Warehouse, and some Trucks, and some Employees, and a Shipping and Receiving Department, and some Office Cubicles with Desks, and then you need some...
Maybe PM just wants something Turn-Key now. I Dunno.
But Technology doesn't seem to be the Driving Force. Because who really has a Hold on the Technology besides the High End Mod People like a Provape ?
I hate those cig-a-likes. Bought ONE and dumped it. I wonder why they are not producing anything but cig-a-likes? We are missing something. They have something up their sleeves. SOMETHING stinks here. Or am I just cynical? Big tobacco is losing a lot of money and so are the states in tax revenue. SOMETHING is brewing...........
I would think Phillip Morris has all the warehoused and distribution chains it would need with it's current business. Room for a few hundred crates of 510 or eGos and cartos would hardly be noticed.
Delivery with it's current shipments of cigarettes would be very simple, stocked and sold by the same outlets.
I Dunno?
Capturing 25% of a Market by just Buying a Company sounds pretty Cool.
I'm just not all that Familiar with the UK Market.
I'm with you there, we're just guessing what the board rooms are planning.
Yeah... And sometimes we can Only See what is going on Today, and Not what is Down the Road.
My Thought are No One Spends that kind of Money if in 2 Years things are going to Dry Up. Because you Can't recoup what you spent in that Time Period.
And even if you could, what would you be left with? A Company that is Not Worth Much and you at a Break Even? That Doesn't sound like BT to me.
The Technology Angle is Wrong Also. Who Cares if the Company you Buy sell Cig-A-Likes? No One seems to hold any Patents on a 2-Piece or an eGo. So it is Not Like you are Buying a Product that someone else Can't Sell.
So Maybe PM is just Removing a Piece from the UK Chess Board who would have the Money to Pay to get an Approved e-Cigarette going in the UK?
Doesn't Matter if your product Isn't the Greatest if there Isn't Much Competition and there is Demand.
I wonder who are some of the Other Major e-Cigarette Players who would be Able to Afford the Coming UK Regulations?
I'm thinking more of How Many companies can Afford to Pay Regulation Costs to sell an e-Cigarette.
Hey guys, hold on a sec.
I wouldn't recommend a cig-a-like to a just quitter, they would probably benefit from a larger device. I've just bought myself a V2 set up however, and I think it's great: minute, even with a second battery in the pocket; PCC to last the whole weekend; refillable cartomizers so you can use any liquid; it's all good imo. What's not to like?
I wouldn't recommend a cig-a-like to a just quitter, they would probably benefit from a larger device. I've just bought myself a V2 set up however, and I think it's great: minute, even with a second battery in the pocket; PCC to last the whole weekend; refillable cartomizers so you can use any liquid; it's all good imo. What's not to like?
No problem with the V2, I own some 808 batteries and cartos myself. The problem is if regulations restrict e-cigs to nothing but cigalikes, with sealed cartos, non-refillable, in limited "approved" flavors, produced by tobacco companies.
Such restrictive policies would relegate vaping to be as ineffective in quitting smoking as say Chantix or nic gum.
I think you, and many others, are absolutely wrong about this.
All you have to do is go to the eRoll forum area right here and see how much people love their cigalikes, and the pen style stuff too.
And that is on a vaping forum.......where most members love the "big stuff".......in reality, out there in the rest of the world, small style vaping gear is very popular......VERY.
The stuff you see on vaping forums is a very small part of the vaping world out there, and people on vaping forums tend to be more technological, etc. but that is just not what everyone WANTS. Thousnads of professionals going off to work everyday, like nurses, teachers, etc. don't want to walk arounmd with big honkin' "MODS"
There is a huge market in small format ecigs.
And yet, back in 2008-2010, even in 2011, vapers were pretty much relagated to using really simple stuff that seems impossible NOW. And thousands quit that way. So how can we say it's ineffective?
Heck when I started,the ego twist had just come out and was heralded as a "game changer" by grimm green at the time.
Anyway, I'm an "advanced" vaper, and have pretty much jettisoned my larger mods in order to use small discreet, lightwieght ecigs, and I know I'm not alone, that's all.
FWIW, out in the wild, I myself have never met a vaper who had anything larger than an ego battery....in my region and in my small town.
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