Phoenix 510 BC 2.4-2.6 dry hits, 100%VG, found a fix

[gordong11]

Ok I have been getting lots of dry hits when using 100% VG juice, however after tinkering I have found a solution to this problem. I have found that if you wiggle and gently back out the center post like 1/4-1/2mm (I used a tiny screwdriver and inserted it into the top air canal, then gently wiggled) this vapes much better with 100% VG. With this tinker, the Phoenix is still in tact and does not leak and clearly vapes better.

Gotvapes, maybe make a 100% VG version with larger wick holes and thicker gauge wick?

I love this thing, and when working properly it works super, the best thing I have ever used, please incorporate this fix into it.

Added: This problem gets worse the more you refill the phoenix, and was not really a problem when I first started using the phoenix. Maybe the wick is degrading or upon break in, this problem starts. Either way my initial fill went well and very few dry hits, and was the same for all 5.

 

[melloyello]

...or you can run the bottom of the center post on sand paper....or you can file slots on it. either way, gotvapes is working on one that will make them wick with all juices. (i think it will be a bottom post with 2 or 3 different size slots on the bottom of the center post so you can choose the wick opening size)

 

[badkolo]

100% vg , then you will need to mod it as not many devices can handle that off the bat, thats is something that you need to either thin down or mod the device. no device i know of form china was ever made to handle 100%vg or extra thick juice

 

[gordong11]

100% vg , then you will need to mod it as not many devices can handle that off the bat, thats is something that you need to either thin down or mod the device. no device i know of form china was ever made to handle 100%vg or extra thick juice

Hey man it works fine on first fill, it get worse over time as the wick wears out..... and even the owner or however he is connected to gotvapes, is vaping 100% VG on his youtube intro/review. Besides if they don't think it will work properly on VG, they should say so in their store. IT shouldn't be up to the consumer to determine the minimum acceptable viscosity of liquids, LOL.

 

[badkolo]

thats me on the videos, nice to meet ya, im the other owner and thats 75% vg thinned down with purified water, well the fact is devices like top and bottom coils where never designed for that, using 100%vg has nor has ever been recommended for those types of devices, PG has been used and is still the main ingredient, the reason vg is mostly used is becuase of what some people like in how it adds vapor and for many others who are allergic to pg they use 100%vg, but that never meant that vg should work in these devices, now the fact that it works for many is great and if you thin it then great and that would help .

thats been the issue and thats why we only recommend thinner juice, you cant put gel like juice into any device and simply expect it to work, its the user who needs to make sure the juice they are using is thin enough to work in the devices they use, this has always been this way and is where many issues arise, not all juice will work in all devices equally.

you cant expect a juice that is like water thin to behave in the same manner a gel thick liquid would behave, not saying vg is hard gel like, but compare pure vg to pure pg and the thickness difference is night an day, so a thinner liquid will make its way up a wick or through smaller holes much easier then a thick gel like liquid will.

 

[gordong11]

Oh cool.....I thought you were vaping tribeca, hey I HAppen to like the phoenix lots, when its wicking for me its just awesome. I found my first couple fills I had no problems with my juices, it's after that is when I started having problems. Of course I know that the thicker the juice the more trouble any device is going to have. Plus the only reason I care is because i like the phoenix and it was working perfect for me. For whatever reason as it gets more and more use, it has a harder time wicking. I never complained about it, in fact there are many posts on how much I like it here. For what its worth steeljan is uing 100%VG in her review as well I believe. The idea that 100% VG should only be used in dripping or carto's should not be the standard IMO, and for what its worth I have had 100VG's that were thinner than some PG mixes, expecially if steeped a while. Thanks for your feedback and answering my post, duly noted.

thats me on the videos, im the other owner and thats 75% vg thinned down with purified water, well the fact is devices like top and bottom coils where never designed for that, using 100%vg has nor has ever been recommended for those types of devices, PG has been used and is still the main ingredient, the reason vg is mostly used is becuase of what some people like in how it adds vapor and for many others who are allergic to pg they use 100%vg, but that never meant that vg should work in these devices, now the fact that it works for many is great and if you thin it then great and that would help .


thats been the issue and thats why we only recommend thinner juice, you cant put gel like juice into any device and simply expect it to work, its the user who needs to make sure the juice they are using is thin enough to work in the devices they use, this has always been this way and is where many issues arise, not all juice will work in all devices equally.

you cant expect a juice that is like water thin to behave in the same manner a gel thick liquid would behave, not saying vg is hard gel like, but compare pure vg to pure pg and the thickness difference is night an day, so a thinner liquid will make its way up a wick or through smaller holes much easier then a thick gel like liquid will.

 

[badkolo]

yes i also vape tribeca in many videos and americano which is 75vg diluted at 5%, kbv, our juice, liqua, decidant vapors, nhaler and other juices.

none of those are 100%vg, steal jan i think used lasso in her phoenix video and that is from us which is 100% pg and cov juice which wasnt to thick at all

but yes many have used vg and usually its diluted and if its working for you then perfect and many places that sell 100VG will dilute it some so its is thinned out for you to make it wick better in many devices, you can also mod the cart which isnt to hard to work with your thicker juices, the only other issue i see arising is gunking, the thicker juice can tend to gunk faster, so you then would run into toruble faster then a thinner juice , meaning more cleaning in between uses to dry burn the gunk off , that should keep you going and having a better experience as well.

you can remove your inner plug, and raise the main pole a tad, to open the slit wick holes as to let the thicker juice work better. that should help as well but im thinking if you say they start off well then days later they have issues, then maybe its gunking up, at that point i would go for a cleaning and a dry burn, then put it back together and give it a go.

 

[yiddleboge6]

Not mentioned, so I thought I would ask. Are you taking them apart and really giving those wicks a good soak to clean them? If not, that could be part of your problem
edit: LOL, Bad's faster than I am

 

[kaptkobe]

I find that if I trim the wicks flush with the holes on the bottom it helps tremendously. I have a couple phoenixs modded this way just for bobas and the like.

You also need to clean them out more when you use thick juice as it gunks stuff up real bad ( this is the same as with any clearo, carto or atty) after about two fills of 100% vg I take mine apart and run them under hot water using pliers, then dry burn.

 

[gordong11]

I find that if I trim the wicks flush with the holes on the bottom it helps tremendously. I have a couple phoenixs modded this way just for bobas and the like.

You also need to clean them out more when you use thick juice as it gunks stuff up real bad ( this is the same as with any clearo, carto or atty) after about two fills of 100% vg I take mine apart and run them under hot water using pliers, then dry burn.

This makes total sense and explains why first 2 fills vaped well. it's after I get problems. Thanks for the tip