Is totally confused as to what exactly is going on...and I dont think I'm the only one(I hope)
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" i for one, will not be watching the classifieds. However, I respect the decision and right for others to keep an eye out.It makes me highly uncomfortable to think that we will be "watching" each other with suspicion. I would like to think that I will still be welcome in the PIF thread although I am aware that my views are most likely different than many of you."
very good point, and, after much deliberation, i have to agree.
i would cheapen all that jules, gooddog, clumsy and so many others have tried to create.
very good point, and, after much deliberation, i have to agree.
i would cheapen all that jules, gooddog, clumsy and so many others have tried to create.
I think we are making this more complicated than it should be! Our group has gotten so large compared to the small group who started trading from clumseys first post. Theres bound to be a bad seed come in once in a while, so feel free to keep an eye out so no one takes advantage of the kindness and generosity that oooozes out of our group.
Well said Sensay. I'm not sure what is going on here but lets all remember we are a group of people who care about eachother.
This group was formed with love...Jules has done an amazing job with it.
So...lets get back to the fun, get back to the joy of making new friends, keeping old ones, and helping a few along the way.
We cannot save the world people. All we can do is stay strong, stay together and enjoy the simple pleasures of this life and what this group has brought to each and every one of us.
Hugs to everyone that needs one
Very well said, Clumsy. 
Besides that's what we've got the big, strong guys for... protecting all of us, huh? In the future I hope these issues can be handled behind the scenes.
Besides that's what we've got the big, strong guys for... protecting all of us, huh? In the future I hope these issues can be handled behind the scenes.
Ok, the "problem/person(s)" have been taken care of.
There will always be issues when you have a big group of people.
So lets just keep our hearts open and our eyes alert....
And
Lets just get back to what PIF is all about
And everything will be ok
There will always be issues when you have a big group of people.
So lets just keep our hearts open and our eyes alert....
And
Lets just get back to what PIF is all about
And everything will be ok
I wish I knew what was going on, too. This is ugly now. It's obvious after the last couple of days posts that we can't help. I thought about your posts from yesterday, Jules, all day today. I didn't get it. I wish I did but without being involved or knowing what's going on with you, I can't. Something more has to be bothering you. You get angry . . post . . apologize . . .post again. We discussed a while ago that people would take advantage of this and I think I knew then that you didn't see it. In fact you convinced me to have faith. There are scammers everywhere. I personally don't give away my small collection to newcomers. They have to prove themselves to me, here on the forum, first. This may be wrong but it makes me feel better. People jump in here asking for stuff, looking for freebies, taking what they can get. Well they can find ways to help, too and when they do I will help them.
As far as the classifieds go, I have given this a lot of thought, I haven't sold anything yet but I may. I have no idea what juices (or other things) I bought, traded for or PIFed. If I find myself out of things that I need and I can't get them here (which so far hasn't happened because people are so generous and my needs are small), I may have to sell some of my stuff to get it. I, also, don't want to have to worry that I am doing something wrong. What I have is mine to give, trade or sell.
I hope this gets worked out but I don't see how if you won't tell us what is going on. It was fun when we could call you Mom and fight over our rooms. That's why I was here. The rest was just a bonus.
You guys are all soooo great. Thanks.
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that I need and I can't get them here (which so far hasn't happened because people are so generous and my needs are small), I may have to sell some of my stuff to get it. I, also, don't want to have to worry that I am doing something wrong. What I have is mine to give, trade or sell.
I hope this gets worked out but I don't see how if you won't tell us what is going on. It was fun when we could call you Mom and fight over our rooms. That's why I was here. The rest was just a bonus.
You guys are all soooo great. Thanks.
well, this was taken care of by jules, the pif guidelines were expanded, anything you get in pif is yours to do with as you see fit
I personally enjoyed reading your post and thought you had a lot of valid and rational thoughts regarding the black cloud hanging over PIF right now. It seems to me that the thread has had fewer PIFs in the last day or so. My guess, is that people are feeling uncertain about PIFing and about what is going on. I have only made about 5 or 6 offers on there but I know I have been sitting back and watching all of this play out. I can tell you I feel more than a little paranoia about using the classifieds right now for items that I purchased with my own hard earned money. I personally would not sell a PIF but quite frankly I have tried to make offers very close in value to what I have accepted and I personally don't care if someone were to sell what I gave them. Stating that you didn't receive it to get a replacement (from nephilims thread) is what burns me up. That is dishonest.
Seriously, if I GIVE something then it is a gift. Who am I to judge? Do we know what the circumstances are that forced the person to sell these items? I can't imagine someone would do that unless there was a dire need. Maybe I am just naive. If we are that attached to what we are giving - then don't give it in the first place. People should not take advantage but that is their own karma and frankly not my business.
I keep seeing people (and not just lioness who I quoted) who have done nothing wrong apologizing for nothing. For having opinions that are completely valid and relevant. It is what makes us all indivduals and we should embrace it. Clearly there are a lot of hurt feelings regarding this situation and just as much uncertainty as to what is going on behind the scenes but at a certain point we all just need to live our lives and be as upstanding and honest as possible and give as freely as we feel comfortable. The needs and intentions of the recipient are a gamble and you don't go to the table with anything you aren't willing to lose.
I, for one, will not be watching the classifieds. However, I respect the decision and right for others to keep an eye out.It makes me highly uncomfortable to think that we will be "watching" each other with suspicion. I would like to think that I will still be welcome in the PIF thread although I am aware that my views are most likely different than many of you.
This is all fresh and I think people are reacting emotionally but maybe with time the wound will heal.
I could not have said it any better, and thank God I'm not the only one that looks at it this way.
I look at it this way, if your selling what I gave you, then I'll look at it from a positive angle. Maybe you didn't like the juice I sent for whatever reason, and your selling to get money for the juice you like. I assume since you took my offer you needed it in the first place.
If your a person like me that accepts offers only to try something new, then I'll assume your also like me and will offer up at least as much as you took, and will PIF again if you don't like/don't want what you took.
If you happen to be one of the rare few POS that rampantly take advantage of other's generosity, know this (and everyone should take this to heart so we can move past this): You may take advantage of me, and I'm fine with that, it WILL NOT stop me from offering and helping....but you WILL one day have to stare God in the face and answer for it, and I hope you have one damn good excuse.
Always remember this (it's what helps me get through each and every day), every single day, you should leave the world a bit brighter, forgive a little more, and have a little more love in your heart when you lay down to sleep than when you got out of bed
There is no need to be watching anything, anyone or anywhere anymore. I have amended the guidelines and you are free to do with the items you receive what you will. I don't want to have a bunch of PMs anymore telling me that so and so is doing this or that. I tried to fix it and caught hell for that so I don't want to hear about things being sold now. I will not get into the middle of that again.
You all have not even tried to see what I have to go through with this. I get a PM from A telling me that B is abusing PIF. I look into and watch while member C and D tell me about them also. I do something about it and then I get hit by members E thru M telling me that what I did was wrong. So I go back and undo what I originally did and I still catch hell from members N thru Z telling me how awful I'm being and people I thought were friends telling me I am acting hysterically when I decide to just sit back and not say anything at all.
So you all tell me what I should do. Do I try to protect the group and suffer the wrath of one half of the members or do I do nothing and suffer the wrath from the other half? Which way should I turn?
You all have not even tried to see what I have to go through with this. I get a PM from A telling me that B is abusing PIF. I look into and watch while member C and D tell me about them also. I do something about it and then I get hit by members E thru M telling me that what I did was wrong. So I go back and undo what I originally did and I still catch hell from members N thru Z telling me how awful I'm being and people I thought were friends telling me I am acting hysterically when I decide to just sit back and not say anything at all.
So you all tell me what I should do. Do I try to protect the group and suffer the wrath of one half of the members or do I do nothing and suffer the wrath from the other half? Which way should I turn?
Oh, Jules!!
I can't imagine how hard it is to do what you do for all of us here on the PIF board! You are AMAZING, and I am SO sorry that you have had to deal with crap like that happening. I don't know of anyone doing this or anything happening, but I would like to plink them on the nose and yell at them for stressing you out so darn much! I stayed out of this thread until now because I didn't know what was going on, but now that I see you upset and being attacked, I just had to say something! I hate that you are upset, this board was meant for fun, sharing, friends, etc... and that is not what you are getting from it at the moment. I will back you no matter what you choose to do. I want to state that I do NOT feel that someone should be able to sell what they have recieved from PIF, they were given something as a gift... and if they don't like it or won't use it, they should gift it to someone else. I don't know the best way to handle it, or what will make it easier... Honestly, I don't feel that someone who gains monetarily because of someone elses generosity is not the type of person I would want to be around.
It is never easy Jules. Sit back, relax and I promise, this will work itself out.
This group knows how to handle itself. It weeds out the weeds and accepts the newly planted flower seeds.
At times, some flowers will never get planted, but weedless this group will be. It is an unbelievable group of people that have gathered and they will pull the wagons 'round to protect one another.
You have such a big heart and are loved by all.
I have been told many a time......
You can make some of the people happy all of the time.
You can make all of the people happy some of the time.
But you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
This group knows how to handle itself. It weeds out the weeds and accepts the newly planted flower seeds.
At times, some flowers will never get planted, but weedless this group will be. It is an unbelievable group of people that have gathered and they will pull the wagons 'round to protect one another.
You have such a big heart and are loved by all.
I have been told many a time......
You can make some of the people happy all of the time.
You can make all of the people happy some of the time.
But you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
You can make some of the people happy all of the time.
You can make all of the people happy some of the time.
But you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
I agree with this you just do the best you can!
You can make all of the people happy some of the time.
But you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
I agree with this you just do the best you can!
jules, just be yourself!
until all this stressed you out so much you had an amazing knack for saying just the right things and making people feel so good!!!!!
forget about checking your pms for a few days, we are all old enough to watch out for ourselves if neccessary.
until all this stressed you out so much you had an amazing knack for saying just the right things and making people feel so good!!!!!
forget about checking your pms for a few days, we are all old enough to watch out for ourselves if neccessary.
Jules, I'm so, so sorry you've been having such a hard time I guess PIF is like a child going through a tough stage and you ARE the Mom. There's really no "right" way--you just figure it out as you go, and you are TRULY gifted at that. You listen and feel your way and are willing to change direction as your perception changes. You are EXACTLY what PIF needs. Please don't give up on us!
I guess PIF is like a child going through a tough stage and you ARE the Mom. There's really no "right" way--you just figure it out as you go, and you are TRULY gifted at that. You listen and feel your way and are willing to change direction as your perception changes. You are EXACTLY what PIF needs. Please don't give up on us!
Jules, welcome to the life of moderation,,,
Don't stress.. you will have to take the good with the bad...
Make this group the way YOU feel it should be... and stick with that
Don't get TOO involved with actions going on between your groups' members.
I don't mean stay behind the scenes, but please don't confuse the role of moderator with mediator.
I watch this thread because I enjoy reading posts from some of my favorite members.
Like with all great concepts, flaws always pop up when it takes action. They are just bumps in the path to your destination...
I have given alot (modesty isn't my forte ) here in the vapeworld, and other areas in my life... how it's received is really of no concern to me... I judge what is right for ME to do and what I can handle give out... where it goes is on someone else's shoulders.
IF you need any additional guidance/help/advice/shoulder.... just know you have one more friend here... (to add to your long list of friends )
Don't stress.. you will have to take the good with the bad...
Make this group the way YOU feel it should be... and stick with that
Don't get TOO involved with actions going on between your groups' members.
I don't mean stay behind the scenes, but please don't confuse the role of moderator with mediator.
I watch this thread because I enjoy reading posts from some of my favorite members.
Like with all great concepts, flaws always pop up when it takes action. They are just bumps in the path to your destination...
I have given alot (modesty isn't my forte
) here in the vapeworld, and other areas in my life... how it's received is really of no concern to me... I judge what is right for ME to do and what I can handle give out... where it goes is on someone else's shoulders.IF you need any additional guidance/help/advice/shoulder.... just know you have one more friend here... (to add to your long list of friends
)There you go. Now I understand a little better. I was taking this personally, maybe others were, too. After all, I think I was the one that started the 'Mom' thing.
IT DOESN'T GET ANY TRUER THAN THIS!
It's a good credo to live by. Especially when trying to do something like this.
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