Pillbox Penstyle is finally here!

[tribalmasters]

I got a bit excited there sorry, a serious question tho what if it makes a bubbling sound? When I take a puff, I such gently and thats good because its how I smoked normal cigarettes

Its not like a gurgle, more like a *fart* type sound could my cart not be on good?

 

[Kit]

I got a bit excited there sorry, a serious question tho what if it makes a bubbling sound? When I take a puff, I such gently and thats good because its how I smoked normal cigarettes

Its not like a gurgle, more like a *fart* type sound could my cart not be on good?

The bubbling gurgling noise is a good sign its the nictoine burning in the ceramic pot in the atomizer

 

[trog100]

Ignoring the green light ? Please explain Rebel ?

lithium battery technology is a fragile battery technology.. if allowed to go too flat it destroys them.. if over charged they catch fire..

the batteries have electronic safety control circuits built in to make them safe for consumer use.. the circuit switches off the battery when the voltage drops to 2.7 volts.. it will never let it go fully flat or below the 2.7 volts.. the circuit also switches off the charge system when the voltage gets to 4.2 volts.. it will never let it go higher than this..

when the green light comes on no more current is allowed to pass into the battery.. the battery has reached its 4.2 volts.. so the green light means f-cking OFF.. repeate f-cking OFF.. not leave on for twice as long to make sure.. he he he

course one has to be a "rebel" to dare challenge the forum herd opinion on this one.. the fact i know what i am talking about often pisses off the majority who dont.. bless em..

what i have told u is a waste of my time except perhaps for u.. dont dare ever mention it again.. he he he

trog

 

[jhl01]

Hi there,

Glad you like the experience - I felt the same way as you - went bonkers round the house - wife thought I'd been electrocuted!!

Anyway, re the gurgling sound; as Kit says above this is the 'juice' bubbling on the heating element. Great up to a point.

When the battery starts to loose some of its charge, some of this liquid will escape the chamber and will be drawn up the sides of the tube and you could get some in your mouth. Trust me on this - it will happen to you at some point and is not pleasant at all!!!

When I get a lot of gurgling, I take out the cartridge and replace it with just a mouthpiece and fresh battery. I then smoke the e-cig without the cartridge until the gurgling drops off.

Re the other sound you refer to!!!! Ahhemm, well I have tried to replicate it and believe that the mouthpiece may not be fully pushed home - air could be escaping around the sides.

Could be wong though as I haven't experienced such a noise as I insist my cartridges are fully potty trained before purchase!!..


All the best, and if this is your first e-cig, then congratulations, you bought a real belter from the off.

Jerry

 

[tribalmasters]

In that case, I am bloody delighted with this thing!! It really does replicate the part I missed the most about smoking! I had trouble pulling the dummy mouthpiece off of the ecig in the box, luckily I bought the spare atomizer and just stuck that on the charged battery with a cart and managed to pull that one off just fine and thanks to all my friends here, your advice has helped me out so much!!

I can't wait to show it off to everyone tomorrow!!!

 

[Kit]

In that case, I am bloody delighted with this thing!! It really does replicate the part I missed the most about smoking! I had trouble pulling the dummy mouthpiece off of the ecig in the box, luckily I bought the spare atomizer and just stuck that on the charged battery with a cart and managed to pull that one off just fine and thanks to all my friends here, your advice has helped me out so much!!

I can't wait to show it off to everyone tomorrow!!!

Enjoy tribalmaster welcome to the world of e-smoking!
now you have ditched the cigs the only way is up for you my friend
Welcome aboard !

 

[tribalmasters]

As I enjoy my e-cig, taking it very slowly and swapped out the high nicotine for a no nicotine cart, noticed my other battery charging, the red LED seems to pulse green as the battery charged at a certain point, I don't think the charge circuit or the LED indicators are too intelligent, I know that charging a lithium ion battery in, say, a laptop pulses instead of providing a constant voltage unlike our old friend the NiCad battery charger would so I suspect the charge controller to be in the chip inside the battery or not wired to the LED in a way most chargers are, the charger still produced an average amount of heat even past green so it must still be trickle charging I could be talking a loada crap but I like to wonder about these thing!

 

[tribalmasters]

Well you know how I said my mother was kinda ermm not impressed nor unimpressed!? Well my dad who unfortunately suffered throat cancer about 10 years ago through smoking is in absolute stitches after seeing it!!! He smokes a cigar now since he can no longer inhale, he breathes through a hole in his throat. Yet another reason why everyone should dump the fags and get ecigs! he is borrowing my ecig tomorrow night to wind the people up in the pub hahaha!!! Luckily, if I can get the damn dummy bit off the other atomizer, we will both have a great time tomorrow down the pub and get the ecig safe smoking sign put up!!!

 

[trog100]

your battery isnt trickle charging.. a lithium cell is regulated (in the battery) so that when it gets to 4.2 volts it switches the charge off.. this bypasses anything the charger is doing.. when the green light is on it means no current is going into the battery..

they can catch fire if overcharged or taken beyond the 4.2 volts point.. they do not trickle for ever like the old nicads did.. the charger led is a simple thing.. red means current is passing into the battery.. green means nothing is passing anywhere.. the control is built into the battery.. green in essence means the battery is disconnected from the charger the same as if the battery wasnt screwed in at all..

trog

 

[TropicalBob]

Do get back to us on how this turns out! Good luck to your father -- he ought to order a Ruyan Vegas or wait a couple of weeks for the GreenCig G100 cigar (no price yet).

 

[jhl01]

Hi Trog,

As a Newbie to this forum (but not to forums in general), I have read with great interest your posts on Li batteries.

I am very interested in the best way to look after such batteries as I have killed a Laptop battery by incorrect charging and am not too keen on doing so in the future.

The way I understand it is that Li batteries do not suffer from 'Memory Effect' but are seriously affected by heat?? 40deg C is a killer so I understand.

If you ever get the time to post a "beginners guide" to charging and looking after Li batteries then I would seriously love to know.

Sorry to hi-jack this post, but I think understanding ther difference between charging Li and NiCd batteries is important. It definately is to me...

As an aside - How the hell do you get these smilies to work?????

 

[dnakr]

Trog is definately the one to answer all your questions on batteries - however, I enjoy picking on him. I keep asking him why suppliers say "do it this way" and he says "NO, do it this way" - he hasn't convinced me yet that it is a translation problem, but I bet he does get aggravated with me - LOL.

 

[trog100]

Hi Trog,

As a Newbie to this forum (but not to forums in general), I have read with great interest your posts on Li batteries.

I am very interested in the best way to look after such batteries as I have killed a Laptop battery by incorrect charging and am not too keen on doing so in the future.

The way I understand it is that Li batteries do not suffer from 'Memory Effect' but are seriously affected by heat?? 40deg C is a killer so I understand.

If you ever get the time to post a "beginners guide" to charging and looking after Li batteries then I would seriously love to know.

Sorry to hi-jack this post, but I think understanding ther difference between charging Li and NiCd batteries is important. It definately is to me...

As an aside - How the hell do you get these smilies to work?????

they do not suffer from memory effect.. neither did anything much to be honest.. this one goes back many years to nicads.. the only people that used them back then flew RC model planes.. i did.. the habit was a full overnight charge then go flying.. always.. the batteries in the airplane flight pack could never be let go flat for obvious reasons.. so they never got fully cycled

someone brought up the memory effect.. some enterprising manufacture picked up on it and started selling fancy chargers that recycled the batteries fully as well as simply charging them..

in truth it was pretty nigh impossible to produce the memory effect in laboratory conditions.. it took hundred of precise identical part discharge cycles to produce it.. but the idea stuck and is still hanging around today never to go away..

nicads were tough dudes and lasted years.. lithiums are fragile dudes and wear out even when not being used sat on the shelf.. my car charger killed four of mine last week.. they got that hot the plastic melted and the battery electrolyte spewed into the charger.. the charger works perfectly in the house off the mains.. but when powered by the cars system over does things a bit.. he he

i wouldnt worry too much about e cig batteries just use em and bin em when they start to lose too much run time..

trog

 

[DeviLFisH]

Hi TM

The 'leaky' carts are perfectly normal - they're just showing a bit of condensation. Initially, I got all paranoid about loading a cart and trying not to spill a drop of the precious juice. Ya get used to it...

I don;t know why the cart seem cannot fully insert in my penstyle

anyone happen also?

yup I do noticed mine package also got some leaky carts

 

[jamie]

OHH MY GOD!!! It is EXACTLY LIKE A CIGARETTE!!!! Hte smoke, I am squealing in excitement around the house...I am an esmoker forever now, never ever need to go back to cigs after this!!!

I had the same experience. It's such a gas isn't it? Good for you!

 

[kramerica2]

Regarding primary charging. Trog is absolutely right. The days of old NiCad batteries have passed long ago. Memory effect, primary charging, etc.. are all things of the past. When the green light turns on, the battery is no longer being charged.

Don't take mine or his word for it, read for yourself:
batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

 

[trog100]

Regarding primary charging. Trog is absolutely right. The days of old NiCad batteries have passed long ago. Memory effect, primary charging, etc.. are all things of the past. When the green light turns on, the battery is no longer being charged.

Don't take mine or his word for it, read for yourself:
batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

nicads still have their uses.. they stand abuse and dont mind deep fast charge/discharge cycles.. which is why they are still used in some of the larger power tools..they are toxic which is why they were mostly gotten rid off..

nickel metal hydrides are kinda rubbishy from the life and abuse point of view.. but they are now very cheap..

lithium are fragile and possibly dangerous.. the danger is played down because big business needs the things.. whole industries depend upon them..

each different battery technology has its plus and minus points.. even the good old lead acid type..

trog

 

[tribalmasters]

Thanks trog100, you are right, my batteries must have been very nearly at full capacity because my second charge of my batteries the red light is on much longer and the charger is getting hotter!

Its better to top up a Li battery to increase your charge cycles I also heard, never had problems with any li batteries apart from those in laptop PCs, they really do like to die!

 

[tribalmasters]

Well my dad has taken the penstyle down the pub with the smoking sign and I am using the other battery with the spare atomiser, I hope he has a great laugh scaring them into thinking its a real cig until he explains!

 

[Kit]

how you getting on with your e-smoking tribalmaster