Pink!? tinted VG/PG Nic?

[Kurt]

Coloration of unflavored nic juice is primarily from oxidation of nic to nicotine-N-oxide, which is yellow/brown. It takes almost zero amounts of this to yellow a nic juice. I have seen the pink color too, but strangely (or not) it has only been from low-nic unflavored I have made with VG.

Us chemists are trying to figure out what it is, but it seems to pose zero threat. I am leaning towards it being the N-oxide, but maybe higher conc than that which makes it yellow, or binding with the VG in a different way than normal thus creating the color...but it only happens once in a while with my DIYs, and most of my low-nic unflavoreds I've made do not do this. I have never seen it in high-nic juice. If it is the N-oxide, and it very likely is, it poses not problems that we know of, and its conc is still extremely low, with 99% of the nic still intact unless the juice has been open and is very old. Eventually nic exposed to the air will all react to form N-oxide.

You might find this thread informative:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/86000-word-about-nicotine-purity-storage.html

You will get to see the chemists debating, changing their minds, correcting each other, and all the normal things that happen in real chemistry. We do not have all the answers, but we are always learning and improving our understanding of this relatively new form of nic (e-juice).

 

[MacDiver]

I orderd 250ml of the pinkish stuff on Sunday night. He said it's fine and I trust him on it.

 

[UntamedRose]

Thanks Kurt

 

[chiquita]

Just ordered mine today. He is almost out too, per his email to me.
My first order from him but he is very well respected and I have no problems with getting a good deal, pink or no pink it matters not.

Plus I was using 60mg nic so at 100mg it will take way less and leave more flavors for me.

 

[MacDiver]

I see what Kurt is saying now. I have some 50mg nic that I transfered to a 30ml clear plastic bottle a couple weeks ago and now it has a slight pinkish color to it. Evidently it's because the air got to it. I'm not concerned about it at all but am glad Kurt informed us of the situation.

Thanks Kurt!

 

[the_antisheep]

You sure seem to like posting trash don't you?

That's what makes posting fun...

sometimes, I personally like posting

too

 

[the_antisheep]

On topic, I think having pink would be kind of cool... I am actually tempted to buy (especially discounted 35%).

 

[Kurt]

On topic, I think having pink would be kind of cool... I am actually tempted to buy (especially discounted 35%).

I can see it now. Rare pink nic juice selling to collectors, like a rare stamp with the wrong color. People will start imagining things like "You know, I think this stuff is better than the colorless!" Soon there is a craze of vapers tossing their colorless nic because the pink somehow has a better (fill in the blank: TH, nic rush, way of picking up women). Prices go through the roof for the pink delicacy. People start having exclusive "pink parties". The juice starts getting colorful names, like "Exquisite Rose" and "Love Pink". Worried vendors of the now boring colorless nic start trying to figure out what the pink is, give up, and add red food coloring. But people can tell the real pink from the fake when their teeth turn crimson.

And then one producer, late at night, mixes a batch...and it turns bright green...

or not...

I strongly believe the pink is from certain N-oxides forming ion pairs or forming a pair with PG or VG. Since I have seen it form on its own with low-nic VG juice I have made from colorless 100 mg VG, it is probably not some extraction by product, rather something about the conditions that make the naturally forming oxides aggregate, thus changing their color from yellow/brown to pink/red. It would make sense to me if it happens in certain flavored juices too, and I've also seen it in some vanilla juices I've made after they have sat for some weeks. The functionalities on vanillin would lend themselves to this.

But all of this is conjecture...relatively educated, but conjecture none the less. To nail it down would require many different juices to be made and spectroscopy done on them. I see zero indication that it is any problem at all, and so if one can get high-nic juice for a discount (for now ), then I would say go for it. The oxides that form naturally in exposed juice are, as far as we can tell, harmless.

And who knows, maybe you lay it down like a fine wine, don't open it, perhaps freeze it, and sell it for mad money in 10 years.

 

[Orion]

Wish I had the extra money to buy some. @ 35% off, it's a steal. Unfortunately I just ordered from him like 2 weeks ago.

And Kurt, I know exactly what you're talking about with the pink vanilla mixes. I have several mixes that have a slight pinkish tint to them from adding vanilla flavorings (Bavarian cream, French vanilla, ect.) My peanut butter is down right vibrant from the vanilla!

I also have one that turned a very mild sage greenish tint, lol (menthol, tobacco absolute, EM, caramel)

 

[the_antisheep]

I'll tell you, if you could change the color of the exhaled smoke, and not just the liquid, it could be filled with all sorts of crap and be flying off the shelves.

"Impress your friends! Blow rainbow colors in their faces! Glow in the dark vapor with new radio active materials!"

Sold...

 

[Kurt]

I'll tell you, if you could change the color of the exhaled smoke, and not just the liquid, it could be filled with all sorts of crap and be flying off the shelves.

"Impress your friends! Blow rainbow colors in their faces! Glow in the dark vapor with new radio active materials!"

Sold...

anti, LOL! And so true... How about a little fluorescene for those Black Light Poster Parties...oh wait...wrong decade...

Actually such an effect is quite possible with fluorescent dyes, but then they might not be safe. It would look like the aurora borealis!

 

[GoodDog]

There is someone out there doing this with vapor but I don't remember where I saw it. They are using something in it to make colors that they "say" is safe for vaping.

 

[justsomeguy]

I see zero indication that it is any problem at all, and so if one can get high-nic juice for a discount (for now ), then I would say go for it.

I'm glad someone was worried enough about it to post here - otherwise I never would have found out about it. Couldn't resist... I just ordered some more for our stockpile.

 

[juicefreak]

a friend and i got some of the pink 50mg juice and it's not as strong as 36mg that we have. anyone else notice this? it was a good bargain, but it seems the strength is even less than 26 mg that we have. I don't know how i'll be able to cut/flavor it now. maybe just use it for very low nic juice top offs?

I shook the hell out of the bottle too. anything else i can do to up the nic to the stated strength?

 

[5cardstud]

I just bought some of this. He is offering it at a great price and from what I have read here I trust Levy when he says the quality is not affected.

I agree. I trust him and have bought some of that e-liquid too and the price is awesome. After I flavor it the color will change again.

 

[Dkrom68]

I have to agree Levy is a stand up guy that puts his customers first and has in my opinion the best nic juice out there. I kinda like the look of it when it gets that pink shade as I have seen this before after opening the bottle and air getting to it and believe Kurt and the other chemists are right about the reasoning of the change.

I think Levy should give it a name like Xtreme Pink Ice or something.

 

[crowbartool]

My gf makes me supply her girlfriends... which irritates me... hmm.. pink.. looks like it's gonna cost more for the new pretty color

 

[Dkrom68]

See theres always a silver lining in everything

 

[Switched]

a friend and i got some of the pink 50mg juice and it's not as strong as 36mg that we have. anyone else notice this? it was a good bargain, but it seems the strength is even less than 26 mg that we have. I don't know how i'll be able to cut/flavor it now. maybe just use it for very low nic juice top offs?

I shook the hell out of the bottle too. anything else i can do to up the nic to the stated strength?

??????? nice try??????????

Now, go troll some place else.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I have to agree Levy is a stand up guy that puts his customers first and has in my opinion the best nic juice out there. I kinda like the look of it when it gets that pink shade as I have seen this before after opening the bottle and air getting to it and believe Kurt and the other chemists are right about the reasoning of the change.

I think Levy should give it a name like Xtreme Pink Ice or something.

I call it 'Pink Lady'
Ideal for using with strawberry, red bull, chocolate cream, in fact anything that will have a red tint anyway.