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Well, maybe they (the flavor bars) haven't come to Montreal yet, though that seems odd, it's such a big city. They're all over the place down here; at least two right here in this medium-size NE-suburbs-of-Atlanta town.
Andria

And here I thought I had come up with an original idea. heh. Had no idea they existed. Really not sure what is offered locally. I'll look around for "juice bars". Thanks.

I agree about the hobby aspect; this is a lot more interesting than yet another $11 trip to Walgreens for 2 pks of smokes.

That would be $11 for ONE pack of smokes here. Eek.

I tell you...this mini protank 2 that I've been playing with for the past few days is higher maintenance than my 3 daughters and ex-wife! ;) Whomever designed it must get a cut of all ejuice sales? (j/k). I smartened up and am using a juice I don't like that much.

I'm going to write a long post on this device in another forum or thread, but the biggest problem I see is that they just aren't machined well. I would gladly pay twice the price for a device that had parts that actually fit together properly. Even the pyrex tank is a bit uneven on the ends. The threads for the various pieces just don't it as well as they should. I'm sure there's a variation between individual units, so it's probably pot luck on getting a "better one". Such a shame, because I like the vape so much better than my iclear16's. I am already at the point where I just want a well-manufactured device (RBA?) that I can rebuild w/ cotton and not have to constantly wash the juice off of my hands. lol. I haven't had a bonafide "leak" (yet). Mainly juice oozing out when I take it apart and put it back together. A little too tight - it oozes. A little too loose - it leaks. Yeesh. It's just not normal. When you refill an iclear16, you screw the coil/base back on, and that's that. The only time I had a leak w/ the iclear16 was my fault (the o-ring wasn't positioned properly). I realize that the PT2 is a bottom-coil device and part of the problem is in the design itself, but surely there's a better made solution? There's no way I would take this with me when I go out. Just too delicate/sensitive.

Another problem is that when you unscrew the base from the battery the coil piece loosens. I believe the grommet on top of the chimney is pressed too tightly against the tube (in order to prevent juice from getting into the airway) and when you loosen the base the the coil stays put, resulting in the coil loosening. How many times I've reassembled everything to get a "non" on the battery, then have to take it apart again, tighten the coil, and reconnect the base to the coil piece (which usually squeezes out juice again).

But when it all works...I can actually taste the flavour of the juice (unlike the iclear16 and the pt2 stock coils) and the vape is very good. Just didn't realize I was signing on for a full-time job. lol.
 
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And here I thought I had come up with an original idea. heh. Had no idea they existed. Really not sure what is offered locally. I'll look around for "juice bars". Thanks.



That would be $11 for ONE pack of smokes here. Eek.

I tell you...this mini protank 2 that I've been playing with for the past few days is higher maintenance than my 3 daughters and ex-wife! ;) Whomever designed it must get a cut of all ejuice sales? (j/k). I smartened up and am using a juice I don't like that much.

I'm going to write a long post on this device in another forum or thread, but the biggest problem I see is that they just aren't machined well. I would gladly pay twice the price for a device that had parts that actually fit together properly. Even the pyrex tank is a bit uneven on the ends. The threads for the various pieces just don't it as well as they should. I'm sure there's a variation between individual units, so it's probably pot luck on getting a "better one". Such a shame, because I like the vape so much better than my iclear16's. I am already at the point where I just want a well-manufactured device (RBA?) that I can rebuild w/ cotton and not have to constantly wash the juice off of my hands. lol. I haven't had a bonafide "leak" (yet). Mainly juice oozing out when I take it apart and put it back together. A little too tight - it oozes. A little too loose - it leaks. Yeesh. It's just not normal. When you refill an iclear16, you screw the coil/base back on, and that's that. The only time I had a leak w/ the iclear16 was my fault (the o-ring wasn't positioned properly). I realize that the PT2 is a bottom-coil device and part of the problem is in the design itself, but surely there's a better made solution? There's no way I would take this with me when I go out. Just too delicate/sensitive.

Another problem is that when you unscrew the base from the battery the coil piece loosens. I believe the grommet on top of the chimney is pressed too tightly against the tube (in order to prevent juice from getting into the airway) and when you loosen the base the the coil stays put, resulting in the coil loosening. How many times I've reassembled everything to get a "non" on the battery, then have to take it apart again, tighten the coil, and reconnect the base to the coil piece (which usually squeezes out juice again).

But when it all works...I can actually taste the flavour of the juice (unlike the iclear16 and the pt2 stock coils) and the vape is very good. Just didn't realize I was signing on for a full-time job. lol.

Man, that's the truth about it being full-time. Being "free-lance" I certainly don't make any money to speak of, but I really haven't done a lick of web design since January -- and really don't care, to be honest. I figure getting rid of a 39 yr deadly habit is worth a nice long "sabbatical". ;)

I guess some of the price diff in cigarettes might be between US/Ca dollars, but I know that cigarettes are more expensive in a lot of places; one of the best perks of Atlanta is the lower cost of living in some ways (though the cost of air conditioning just KILLS in the summer!). I know gas is cheaper here that a lot of places, and cigarettes too. But still -- when I started smoking in 1975, I could get a pk of smokes and a can of Pepsi for less than $1 -- now just the smokes are $5.51 at the cheapest place I can find them -- Walgreens. Heck I haven't bought any since mid-Feb, they could be more expensive already! ;)

I have a Kanger tank too, but it's a simpler model I think, the T3S, and haven't had any problems with one of them that I have, although the other one, one of the rubber gasket thingies on the base wouldn't lay right, so it leaked; I bought another base and it seems to have fixed the problem. Gives a really good taste/throat hit/vapor, and the coils are rebuildable, though I'm nowhere near being ready to attempt that. Actually soon I'll probably need to clean and dry burn those, and replace the flavor wicks; I've studied the video for that, so I think I can probably handle it, but it's a little intimidating. :D And yeah, the same is true of the coil sometimes loosening whn you unscrew the base to refill; in fact sometimes when I pull the base off, the coil is unattached, and I have to pluck it straight out and re-screw it into the base. Not a huge deal if you remember, but if it comes loose that way, it can leak.

For pyrex, I have the SmokTech ARO, and I *LOVE* it -- when I screw the base on or off, it's so smooth, the threads are *perfectly* machined. Did have a small problem this morning with a leak, but I determined that the flavor wick wasn't fully occupying the apertures on each side of the coil, so I added a bit of cotton to it, which I hope will fix that problem. Otherwise, that thing is a dream. And not very costly, either; I got mine from MadVapes, where it's only $5.99, at least $1 cheaper than anywhere else I've seen. And, I'm told that the coils for the T3S, the kanger ones that I have, will fit that base in the ARO (though the reverse is not true).

I'm starting to look at and price some further devices; either a real "APV" or maybe a mechanical mod. I suppose I actually already have an APV, since this iTaste vv3 is fully variable on either voltage or wattage; it's a sweet device. So I'll probably go more towards something mechanical. I just love the idea of batteries that AREN'T integrated, so that when the battery is finally fully dead, you can just replace the battery instead of hving to replace the entire device.

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svg1234

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Thanks for all the info, Andria.

One thing I find interesting is that when I first tried the mini pt2 the draw seemed ridiculously "airy". Way too much air. So I blocked one of the 3 holes. But just a day or two later, I ended up going back to 3 holes and liking the draw more and more. Now, after a few head rebuilds, and using it for about a week, the draw seems perfect. When I went back to one of my iclear16's a few days ago (to get a few hits of a different juice), the draw now seemed incredibly tight. lol. Like sucking a golfball through a hose. And of course there was almost no flavour at all. No dry hits, but just "blah". Really enjoying the mpt2. If only it wasn't such a pita. But I've gotten used to it in just a week and things are going much smoother. One thing that is key is to not tighten the base tot eh tank too much. Tighten it LESS than you think you should. It won't leak that way. If you tighten it like anything else, so that it is "snug", it's too much. I think it compresses the o-ring and causes air to go in/out where the seal should be.

Same for the mouthpiece. I *hated* the mouthpiece at first. Cold, metallic-tasting. Yuck. But it has really grown on me to the point where I don't know if I'd go back to the plastic (delrin?).

I am so very pleased with the vape off of the coils I built. Plenty of vapour and LOTS of taste. The cotton wicks and having a proper size are so important. I don't use flavor wicks. Now all I"m missing is some quality ejuice. Can't help but gfeel that so far all of the juices I have tried (from just 2 vendors - my original vendor and one other) are not int eh same league as the juices other people are using. Looking forward to not only finding flavours I like but also better quality all-around. It's interesting how the exact same juice will taste "prefumey" in the iclear16, but then I load it into the mpt2 and no more perfume and lots of flavour.
 
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