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Agreed. They work very well in my simple Subtank Mini deck and it is beyond simple to replace the silica with cotton. Just trying to help this gentlemen come up with some simple solutions that may work for him. ;)

Just trying to let people know if you put them in an Atty witg Post holes the screws are likely to cut the wire every time you install one.
 
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Just to be safe you may want to get a copper or brass mechanical mod and an rda.
Just trying to let people know if you put them in an Atty witg Post holes the screws are likely to cut the wire every time you install one.

Have you tried filing down the screws so they don't cut the wire?

As far as advice: I can't remember everything that was posted in this thread, but as for me I'm on the lookout for steel tank rebuildable tank atomizers and mechanical mods. I am going to get mechanical mods first, and then regulated mods as the budgest allows. Way back when I upgraded from a pen style vaporizer to an ego 510, and then to a Pure Smoker mechanical mod with a 2 ohm old school atomizer on it. I was smoke free the whole time.
 
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Just trying to let people know if you put them in an Atty witg Post holes the screws are likely to cut the wire every time you install one.

I hear you. Just letting the OP know that there are options out there for folks that don't want to make their own. FT has a large selection. What I linked to was just one example. Heck, he could always choose something like this if he wants to as well.
$7.60 8-in-1 FeCr Alloy Pre-Coiled Resistance Wire for RBA Atomizers (8 Specs) - ships 6 pieces of each spec at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

All kinds of options out there for premade coils. :)
 

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Just to be safe you may want to get a copper or brass mechanical mod and an rda.


Have you tried filing down the screws so they don't cut the wire?

As far as advice: I can't remember everything that was posted in this thread, but as for me I'm on the lookout for steel tank rebuildable tank atomizers and mechanical mods. I am going to get mechanical mods first, and then regulated mods as the budgest allows. Way back when I upgraded from a pen style vaporizer to an ego 510, and then to a Pure Smoker mechanical mod with a 2 ohm old school atomizer on it. I was smoke free the whole time.

Apparently you have never used a Goblin Mini.

Those screws are like1 mm thick and 5 mm long
 

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Yes! I'll be stocking up and learning to DIY. I just hope I can learn to make even a fraction of the amazing pre-made juices I currently love. If I am, I will be okay, but I'll still hate BT, BP and the FDA!

Start by mixing 5 ml batches

When you make sonething unvapeable trash. When you win tge Lottery my making a great eJuice record the formula and do your happy dance.
 

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Yes! I'll be stocking up and learning to DIY. I just hope I can learn to make even a fraction of the amazing pre-made juices I currently love. If I am, I will be okay, but I'll still hate BT, BP and the FDA!

Thats the Spirit!

Prep and make these useless Bureaucrats irrelevant.
 

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Yes! I'll be stocking up and learning to DIY. I just hope I can learn to make even a fraction of the amazing pre-made juices I currently love. If I am, I will be okay, but I'll still hate BT, BP and the FDA!

Slow and steady
1 Flavor attempt at a time and in SMALL batches
Don't get frustrated if things get weird.
In the end, it is worth it even for a few personal Greats.
 

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USP Kosher VG in of itself shouldn't be a problem to obtain under current regs as it's available for use in other industries. Mods, attys and factory coil heads will be effected in that no new devices will be allowed on the market after August 2016 unless they first pass the FDA's lengthy and expensive "approval" process. Devices that were on the market prior to August 2016 will remain available for a year or two pending approval of submitted applications.....maybe. Devices that were on the market prior to 2007 will be grandfathered in but considering what little tech was available back then that provision is all but -meaningless-. There is legislation in the works (two separate bills) that seek to soften the dire impacts of the current deeming regs but it's unclear if either will pass.

""Mods, attys and factory coil heads will be effected in that no new devices will be allowed on the market after August 2016 unless they first pass the FDA's lengthy and expensive "approval" process ...""

This sentence in your reply just frosts me to the core as it seems they are just spray 'shot gunning' the complete forest in an attempt to kill something .... there is no focus ... what the heck does 'approval' even mean dammit ? Safety because something is being a tool ? do hammers, nail drivers, staplers need safety approval too ? Safety approval that it will create nothing deemed 'smokable ?' .... These A holes drive me to drink .... (and of course that is currently fully approved .... No one has ever killed a family because of irresponsible vaping however I submit)







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Do you folks honestly think that China will stop making hardware such as box mods and atomizers just because they might be banned / taxed / or otherwise regulated here in the US?

I find that very hard to believe. I think anyone living in the US will be able to order this same stuff from China suppliers such as Fasttech just like always ... Some of it might get confiscated by US Customs, but I bet the majority of it will still find it's way to your mail box.

Now, as for US based ecig retailers ... Yup ... There SCREWED !
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I make my own DIY juice, and the only thing I am stocking up on is Unflavored Nicotine PG Base (lots of it still available at the regular prices as of now).

For you folks that don't know how to make your own juice ... You better start learning how to pretty soon.
 

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Do you folks honestly think that China will stop making hardware such as box mods and atomizers just because they might be banned / taxed / or otherwise regulated here in the US?

I find that very hard to believe. I think anyone living in the US will be able to order this same stuff from China suppliers such as Fastech just like always ... Some of it might get confiscated by US Customs, but I bet the majority of it will still find it's way to your mail box.

Now, as for US based ecig retailers ... Yup ... There SCREWED !
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I make my own DIY juice, and the only thing I am stocking up on is Unflavored Nicotine PG Base (lots of it still available at the regular prices as of now).

For you folks that don't know how to make your own juice ... You better start learning how to pretty soon.

I don't think the companies in China would stop producing vape gear.

How ever the Govt may start confiscating tge vape gear at Customs, abd issuing fines to the recepient of said vape gear.

You are absolutely correct.

NO time like the presentasi to learn rebuilding, DIY Ejuice, and prepare before the hammer falls and find yourself smoking and day dreaming of the daya when you vaped Mississippi Mud pie, Key lime pie, cappucino, abd other amazing flavors.
 

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""Mods, attys and factory coil heads will be effected in that no new devices will be allowed on the market after August 2016 unless they first pass the FDA's lengthy and expensive "approval" process ...""

This sentence in your reply just frosts me to the core as it seems they are just spray 'shot gunning' the complete forest in an attempt to kill something .... there is no focus ... what the heck does 'approval' even mean dammit ? Safety because something is being a tool ? do hammers, nail drivers, staplers need safety approval too ? Safety approval that it will create nothing deemed 'smokable ?' .... These A holes drive me to drink .... (and of course that is currently fully approved .... No one has ever killed a family because of irresponsible vaping however I submit)

Nothing to worry about, the FDA's application/approval process is really quite simple. First, companies need to hire engineers, chemists, doctors, lawyers, scientists, psychiatrists and other experts to write thousands of pages of "reports" about a specific product. Then they pay the FDA a wad of money, submit the "reports" in triplicate and wait a few years until they receive a yea or nay. This must be accomplished for each and every vape item a company intends to market. For e-liquids, an application must be submitted for each flavor, every pg/vg ratio and every nic strength they intend to offer. A juice like "Peaches and Cream" offered in 4 different pg/vg ratios and 5 levels of nic strength would need 20 different applications. If a company happens to offer 10 different flavors in their line of e-liquids they'll need to submit a couple hundred different applications. Of course it will cost a "little" money to do all this but you simply tack that cost of doing business onto the retail price of your product and let consumers pick up the tab. Same goes for any tobacco taxes states decide they're entitled to receive now that everything involved with vaping has been legally deemed a "tobacco product". Companies will just tack it all onto the price of the product. Consumers won't care, I see them happily spending $3 for a small bottle of fancy -water- every single day so I doubt they'll mind paying $2 per ml for e-liquids once they realize how much safer all those poor little abused children will be.... ;)
 

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............I think anyone living in the US will be able to order this same stuff from China suppliers such as Fasttech just like always ... Some of it might get confiscated by US Customs, but I bet the majority of it will still find it's way to your mail box.

Now, as for US based ecig retailers ... Yup ... There SCREWED !
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I certainly intend to find out, I do most of my business overseas anyway so if something I want is still available from China I'll buy it (or at least try). Unfortunately, from past experience with U.S. customs I do know that once they seize an illegal/restricted/banned shipment your name and mailing address is "flagged" for 100% inspection on future imported packages.
 

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Nothing to worry about, the FDA's application/approval process is really quite simple. First, companies need to hire engineers, chemists, doctors, lawyers, scientists, psychiatrists and other experts to write thousands of pages of "reports" about a specific product. Then they pay the FDA a wad of money, submit the "reports" in triplicate and wait a few years until they receive a yea or nay. This must be accomplished for each and every vape item a company intends to market. For e-liquids, an application must be submitted for each flavor, every pg/vg ratio and every nic strength they intend to offer. A juice like "Peaches and Cream" offered in 4 different pg/vg ratios and 5 levels of nic strength would need 20 different applications. If a company happens to offer 10 different flavors in their line of e-liquids they'll need to submit a couple hundred different applications. Of course it will cost a "little" money to do all this but you simply tack that cost of doing business onto the retail price of your product and let consumers pick up the tab. Same goes for any tobacco taxes states decide they're entitled to receive now that everything involved with vaping has been legally deemed a "tobacco product". Companies will just tack it all onto the price of the product. Consumers won't care, I see them happily spending $3 for a small bottle of fancy -water- every single day so I doubt they'll mind paying $2 per ml for e-liquids once they realize how much safer all those poor little abused children will be.... ;)

There are many eliquid companies that will simply close up shop rather than put up the money, many millions of dollars, to either risk their applications being rejected or to hope to recoupe those costs later through sales. Even if their applications are miraculously approved, I would think the increase in cost would surpass a few dollars a bottle. And then, wait for the federal and local governments to tax the hell out of it, driving up eliquid costs even more. Nothing to worry about? Indeed, I hope your intended message was sarcasm.
 
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...........Indeed, I hope your intended message was sarcasm.

It was. ;) In fact my outlook has been so pessimistic, my confidence in federal and state governments so low, that I started planning for this event years ago. I'm currently -self sufficient- and FDA/state tax proof for life.
 
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