Please forgive me, I'm a ..... ....

[crxess]

You arent screwed.

Temp control box mods are also used and currently sold as "Herbal Vaporizers".
Herbal Vaporizers are not regulated by the FDA.

You're welcome.

Yep,..............we will just end up on another Government list through association
You know, I never cared............but also never did

 

[Bad Ninja]

Yep,..............we will just end up on another Government list through association
You know, I never cared............but also never did

I wouldnt worry.
They've been trying to work that list for a while now.
In the end, it backfired.

 

[Firestorm]

If this is truly a misguided attempt to "protect" us, then yes, gear will go away and you won't be able to get much of anything we call useful after the deeming date. If it is truly a money grab (tax scheme) then products will return to the market. You have to have items to tax after all.

If the FDA and Big Tobacco (BT) have their way, the only products that will return to the market will be closed system cigalikes. I wonder how long it will take BT to include additional additives in eliquid to make it more hazardous and addictive.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Rather negative attitude for a mod isn't it?

nope.... sometimes the truth is harsh

 

[Bunnykiller]

I O.D'd on Nic and had a vision.... I saw...

a new market for handheld hi wattage low resistance power supplies for testing wire wound resistors that require water cooled resistors ( via a water soaked wick) with attached supply tank... with a convienent 510 connector for quick change applications...

its a shame that these new handheld power supplies for testing hand made wire wound resistors look alot like the things that people used to vape with a real problem now a days ... no one has any imagination to change the look

S.O.

 

[choochoogranny]

When BT has most of the market to itself again, they will buy out more vaping mfg. businesses for pennies on the dollar. BT won't have to spend so much on R & D. It will have been done. Njoy is the only cig-a-like company they haven't bought so far, but the FDA will make sure the conditions for present day vaping companies will be so impossible that they'll gladly sell out. Fed. and state gov. will get their tobacco taxes back up again, BT will have the market again, and big pharma/health orgs get to keep their jobs blaming a lot of diseases on and fighting against "tobacco".

I scratch your back. You scratch mine.

 

[JustWondering1]

If the FDA and Big Tobacco (BT) have their way, the only products that will return to the market will be closed system cigalikes. I wonder how long it will take BT to include additional additives in eliquid to make it more hazardous and addictive.

What is a closed system cigalike?

 

[Bunnykiller]

What is a closed system cigalike?

it would be a atomizer that is a one time use, non refillable, taste like duck poo ( Im guessing it will taste really bad) and will cost more than anyone can afford per day...

and if you even try to take it apart in an attempt to refill it it will destroy the internals to a point that will make it useless

 

[JustWondering1]

it would be a atomizer that is a one time use, non refillable, taste like duck poo ( Im guessing it will taste really bad) and will cost more than anyone can afford per day...

Wow!! That sounds about right.

 

[salemgold]

Sorry Salem YOU DON'T WANT THOSE.

1. The wire us 30 gauge. Ok for rebuilding a Kayfun, RBA of the Subtank Mini. Where yoy trap leads ubder screw heads.

Tge problem is that most RDAs and RTAs havd Post holes where tge end of the screw traps the leads. Tge bottom of the screws will cut this wide easily.

2. This wick is silica. Organic cotton of Rayon wod provide much better flavor.

Agreed. They work very well in my simple Subtank Mini deck and it is beyond simple to replace the silica with cotton. Just trying to help this gentlemen come up with some simple solutions that may work for him.

 

[JustWondering1]

it would be a atomizer that is a one time use, non refillable, taste like duck poo ( Im guessing it will taste really bad) and will cost more than anyone can afford per day...

and if you even try to take it apart in an attempt to refill it it will destroy the internals to a point that will make it useless

What they are trying to do should be criminalized!

 

[Bad Ninja]

Again the issue will be things like ejuice, cleros and coils.

Batteries, even mods are multiple use items.
Easy enough to bypass FDA authority by selling them as herbal vapes.

Time to support your local smokeshop.
They have been kickin the Feds butts for decades.



Mods arent going anywhere.

 

[JustWondering1]

Again the issue will be things like ejuice, cleros and coils.

Batteries, even mods are multiple use items.
Easy enough to bypass FDA authority by selling them as herbal vapes.

Time to support your local smokeshop.
They have been kickin the Feds butts for decades.



Mods arent going anywhere.

So coils aren't needed in mods used for vaping herbs?

 

[wizardofozone]

You arent screwed.

Temp control box mods are also used and currently sold as "Herbal Vaporizers".
Herbal Vaporizers are not regulated by the FDA.

You're welcome.

This is so uplifting I could kiss you right in the face (lol)

 

[Firestorm]

What is a closed system cigalike?

Welcome to the future of vaping, FDA-style:

Note the two flavors that the FDA will only likely approve: Menthol and Original

 

[JustWondering1]

Welcome to the future of vaping, FDA-style:

Got it! Doesn't big tobacco own Vuse?

 

[Firestorm]

Got it! Doesn't big tobacco own Vuse?

Exactly

 

[classwife]

Note the two flavors that the FDA will only likely approve: Menthol and Original

YUCK !!! EEEeeewww !!!

 

[JustWondering1]

Exactly

Wonder how long it will take big tobacco to add nasty non tobacco chemicals to their vaping products like they do with analog cigarettes?? I've read that as addictive as nicotine is, some of the other nastiness they add to analogs makes nicotine even more addictive!

 

[JustWondering1]

Welcome to the future of vaping, FDA-style:

Note the two flavors that the FDA will only likely approve: Menthol and Original

No more peaches & cream or pina colada or vanilla custard!!

I read someone in another thread say that no matter what, if she can't vape, she won't go back to analogs. She said she'll just rub nic juice onto her arm or something. I wonder what absorbtion would be like with that? I don't want to give those big tobacco crooks one penny!