Please help me - possible atomizer questions

[diglass]

Just got my eGo kit today with lots of liquid and empty cartridges. I got a couple pre-filled cartomizers or whatever. When I use the pre filled one without the atomizer it tastes fine.

What do I need to do to get my atomizer to not have the burnt plasticy taste? It doesn't seem like the eliquid is getting down to it, but I topped off a few cartridges to where it looks like a slushy and there's a little liquid towards the top.

Please help, only have one pre filled, that I'm using and I just got it today, filled a few cartridges, and would love to try them with the way they are supposed to taste. Any links tips or whatever to do to the wick thing would be great, if that's what I need to do.

thanks

 

[Rosa]

Did you blow the primer out of the atomizer before you used it? Also, you need to drip a couple of drops of juice into the atomizer to help it start the wicking process.

And, you can refill your cartomizer too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp8cp9vMD58

 

[Rosa]

also, also,,,, the carts will not taste the same as the cartomizer - even if they have the same juice in them. It's not impossible that you simply like the cartomizer flavor better.

 

[HzG8rGrl]

If you purchased any e-liquid, you can refill the cartomizers. Pop off the white small top. If there is a silicone ring, pull it out. Hold the cartomizer at an angle and drip a few drops down the wall and let it soak in. Rotate the cartomizer and do it again-until the carto filler looks saturated. Replace the ring and top and vape away.

As for the atomizers. Take the cartridge off and put a papertowel around the thread ends and blow 5-6 times through the large open end. Wipe the threaded end off real good and blow through that end a few times (into the paper towel). You have the cart filled. Drip 3 drops of e-liquid onto the mesh in the atomizer. Put the cart on and with the first 3 puffs-don't inhale. After that the funky taste should be gone.
Atomizers have a primer fluid that does not have a good taste. Hit the link under my signature and watch the 510 tutorial, maybe it can be of help.

 

[SDsucker]

Just keep it nice and wet and let it wear in. I assure you the burnt taste will disappear

 

[dormouse]

These are carts right? They stick on the atomizer?

1. always have spare atomizers, more carts, extra battery, etc
2. always try to line up the rectangular juice cup of 510 carts with the atomizer bridge
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3. Always push pull on/off a cart - don't twist
4. If the stuffing gets compressed try to fix that so it makes good contact with the atty

if an atomizer tastes bad (and it's not the primer)

You can try
1. blowing it out - when it is cool remove it and blow through it into a tissue
2. wash it - (but I don't recommend this if you have no spares - should be safe but I also don't want you to be atty-less) you may have the best luck with near-boiling water (but note - if there is a plastic skin in the atty it may get wrinkled, but most atties are painted or plain metal). Soak it in a bowl of very hot water - make sure all air bubbles are out of it so the hot water is definitely on the atty bridge. Let sit for 15 min then scoop some hot water through it. Shake it out well, dry the outside and blow dry the inside well. Remember to prime (put 3 or so drops of fluid on the bridge and wait a minute) then try using it.

Also - see if the cart you are using has a curved side of its juice cup that might be touching the atty. If so, try to straighten it.

And please get some juice, get some blue foam (strictlyejuice.com has precut blue foam stuffing for 510 carts which does not singe easy like the white stuff does), get some carts and a spare atty.

 

[diglass]

Hey thanks for the tips everyone, I'm gonna try them out as soon as I get my daughter tucked in for bed in just a minute. I've just been using the pre-filled one without the atomizer, but I have lots of different juices and I drew up a little table to experiment with multiple flavors just writing down how many drops/ml(lol not much ml for mixing) of each flavor.
I really really want to try the chocolate mint and my own mix of double menthol and chocolate (I'm a mint chocolate fiend and was a menthol myo w/ machine smoker, with myo I really got into making my own blends of nice {mmm perique}, regular, and organic tobaccos' and then injecting them into menthol tubes).
Gosh I already love this forum, so many people actually giving you good information and links instead of just saying "google it".

You guys are great, I'll let you know how it turns out after I read up really well.

Oh and btw I do have a low resistance atomizer coming in the mail that I ordered Friday when I ordered my kit and ..... tons of liquid and cartridges from value vapor.

 

[diglass]

Well so far it's been kinda weird. Some puffs taste great and some have the burnyish taste with a small hint of flavor. I have made sure the atty is aligned with the cart. I have other carts as well and have had similar results some hits are great some are kinda burny, and it's random... The only thing I think I may have done wrong was not let the primed atty sit for long enough before using.

 

[Valentine Michael Smith]

Try dripping your juice directly into the atty. I have noticed that it takes awhile for my attys to really want to work well with a cart. Be careful not to flood the atomizer though, about 3 drops works well for me.

 

[Rosa]

also, if you take too many drags off of it in a row, the wicking process can't keep up. sometimes I get two of them going at the same time so I can alternate. If you let it sit for a minute between puffs you'll get better results (PITA, I know.... hence the two going at the same time thing) good luck!

 

[dormouse]

Did you blow out the atty before priming then vape that off without inhaling then prime again? That primer on attys tastes nasty. Many attys comes with a dummy no-stuffing cart attached and that is good for those no-inhale drags so you don't get primer on your cart stuffing. No harm done - it will fade anyway.

I don't have an Ego so I can't be of much help. With a manual I push - start drag...,- release - as I finish dragging out the rest of the vapor in the cart. So the push starts about 1/2-1 second before dragging and ends 1-2 seconds before I stop dragging. And make sure the cart is always moist (but not a puddle) on top.

And when you are using a carto then you have to put in enough juice or it will singe its stuffing inside. All of the stuffing should be damp. And top if off periodically to keep it damp (like anytime it gets low on vapor or tastes off).

BTW the DIY secion of this forum has a Guide to DIY in its sticky threads which includes recommended percents for lots of flavors. And if you have any Perfumer's Apprentice flavors, their site has comments (sometimes with recipes) on many of the flavorings. Every brand is different though so just go by the DIY guide unless you have PA flavors.
DIY e-liquid
Perfumers Apprentice - Professional DIY Flavors

it's after 3 AM here and I have to go to bed - good luck! And you may want to Edit hen Advanced edit your first post and add Ego to your title - that might get more help since there are a lot of Ego users here.

 

[diglass]

I did blow out the atty and prime it with three drops but not prime twice, that is until about three hours later I primed the atty with three drops again.

I went out and got blue aquarium foam for free (my lady used to work there) today to replace the filler in the cartos.

Now I'm only getting about 6-8 good puffs (better than 4-5) before the nasty taste. How many puffs do most people get out of a 510 carto in an eGo?

I def think I'm goin to order a drip tip and automatic battery. Anyone have suggestions for a good supplier on drip tips for good prices (pref the West coast-ish distribs)?

thanks

 

[Rosa]

That's what I hated about the carts too (fyi cart: cartridge, carto: cartomizer). Have you looked into either the tank system or cartomizers or clearomizers?

FWIW: you shouldn't drip with an automatic battery because the battery isn't sealed off so the e-liquid can get into it and fry it.

Tank system: special atomizer and cart where the cart is made like a tank (think gas tank) and the atomizer pierces the tank and draws juice directly from there. Holds about 1ml of juice for uninterrupted use: no filler, no leaking (ok, rarely someone says theirs leaks, but rarely), no topping off all day long. Just either refill the tank or pop in another one.

cartomizer: a cart with a built in atomizer, fill in with juice (or buy them pre-filled) and they last for a while (I used about 5-6 per day, but I vape a lot). You fill them up at night and they're all ready to go for the following day. No fuss, no muss. fwiw: I tried the eGo cartomizer and didn't like it, much preferred the standard soft-cap 510 cartomizer.

Clearomizer: almost a mix between cartomizer and tank system. It's basically a cartomizer that has no filler in it, sort of like a straw full of juice with an atomizer inside that screws onto the eGo battery. Plus, they come in an XL size too so you fill it with 1.8ml of juice and screw it on and go. It's clear so you can actually see when the juice is getting low.

Anyway, that's what I love about the eGo, there are a lot of ways to use them besides just dripping or atty/cart combo.

 

[Valentine Michael Smith]

Using a drip tip with an automatic battery is not advisable. The battery is not sealed and liquid can potentially leak into and fry your battery. Just a heads up for you.

 

[socratische kennis]

the type of atomizer you have with your eGo makes some difference: standard 510 with a separate cone, Type A is one piece with the cone shape, Type B is straight sided and holds a lot of solution, and then there is the very recently introduced Tank system. there are several methods of getting the wick on the first three soaked quickly, but it sounds like you did that well enough...

it sounds like you have the Type A atomizer that came with your eGo kit, same as came with my starter kit. Four things you need to know about the eGo Type A system:

1) you will find the taste harsh when about 10 drops of fluid has been wicked out of a Type A cartridge that was topped off, probably because the the fluid does not flow out of it fast enough to keep up with the rate at which the atomizer is vaporizing the liquid.
2) you don't need to draw as long or push the button as long with the Type A atomizer compared to most other atomizers and cartomizers (the Type A heats faster than a standard 510, so i'm guessing it heats faster than your cartomizer.) the Type A atomizer has less "resistance" than a standard 510, meaning it's somewhere between a "regular resistance" atty and a "low resistance" atty – you get a lot of vapor fast due to faster heating.
3) eGo attys Type A and Type B seem to work and taste better after a couple of days, after being "broken in", maybe because the wicking material under the bridge shrinks a little from the heat, letting the fluid flow faster.
4) the taste will improve after the atty is cleaned, there are many ways to clean an atomizer, and you can clean one before ever using it, but think about it before you do it. whether you have an automatic or push button will influence your decision.

I don't have enough space here to properly describe what I do to clean my atties, but it is a variant on the isopropyl alcohol soak, drain, and THOROUGHLY air dry method (isopropyl alcohol is much more toxic to the liver than 190 proof GRAIN neutral spirits, but the spirits are flammable and have other issues). do not try to dry out the eGo Type A atty by firing it without first priming it with more vaporizing solution or you risk burning the wick next to the heating coil (the “dry burn” method of “cleaning” an atty removes the wick under the bridge by burning the wick up completely as well as any residue that might be there; if you don't cause the heating element to break with this radical method, your atty will produce better tasting vapor, but it will vaporize liquid more slowly, requiring a longer heating time, making it relatively easy to burn the wick in the cartridge, after which you will think it better to drip... I won't be dry burning any more attys).

I will not use boiling water, plain or distilled water, or steam, each for different reasons, but vaping water vapor isn't going to cause a problem unless the wick under the bridge dries out.

sk
2011 02 02

 

[diglass]

Thanks, does anyone know a west coast supplier of clearomizers , tanks, and or drip tips?

 

[Rosa]

This list is pretty cool:

Forum Suppliers - Sortable List

 

[HzG8rGrl]

VaporSearchUSA

Here's a quick state search. Not sure how up to date it is.

 

[Goddess Rebecca]

I have had 3 clients with your same issues. There is an oil that the atty comes with from the manufacture (same as the 510). If you did not put the drops in to prime the atty when you first started using it, that burnt taste will stay there until the oil/residue is all vaped away. It may take a cartridge or two, but you should be noticing that the burnt taste is lessoning with use. It is not going to go away quickly but it will lesson until it is no longer there. You may just want to use your spare for now by priming it with a drop or two then inserting the cartridge. It then needs to wick. So set it aside for about 3 to 5 minutes then use it. The burnt taste shouldn't be there.

I hope that helps!