Poor quality 510 batts

[RobFindlay]

I've acquired several of the black 510 batts from madvapes over the last few weeks and I've had two die on me. Basically I put them on the charger and it lights up green but they never charge, left one on overnight and it was dead as a doornail.

So two questions.

Is there a way to resurrect a batt?

Where does one find a good qaulity 510 batt? Which brands?

Thx.

Rob

 

[WalksWithWiFi]

are they within warranty?
how long did they last before not holding a charge?

what brand are they?

 

[RobFindlay]

are they within warranty?
how long did they last before not holding a charge?

what brand are they?

Mainly ordered from here Batteries Some of them have been smoktek I believe.

Oddly one of them has just come back to life.

-R

 

[RobFindlay]

And then it died again, I put the batt in the USB charger and the LED on the batt doesn't flash and the one on the charger just sits at green.

 

[swedishfish]

I'm not particularly happy with their batteries either. I've never had a problem with the Joye batteries I got from Liberty Flights.

 

[swedishfish]

And then it died again, I put the batt in the USB charger and the LED on the batt doesn't flash and the one on the charger just sits at green.

It could be your battery needs to be adjusted. Mine did from there. It's a little annoying but relatively simple; you just get a small screwdriver and gently pull up the center post on the battery. Or try putting a pin in the center of your carto and moving it up slightly so it makes contact. Better if you can make this work adjusting the carto.

 

[RobFindlay]

It could be your battery needs to be adjusted. Mine did from there. It's a little annoying but relatively simple; you just get a small screwdriver and gently pull up the center post on the battery. Or try putting a pin in the center of your carto and moving it up slightly so it makes contact. Better if you can make this work adjusting the carto.

Holy crap that seemed to work! Thank you. Not sure what I did, I just monkeyed with the center hole a bit and now it's charging normally.

 

[JustaGuy]

I saw on Madvapes quite a few Smoktech batts have that 'contact' problem, costs less but not as good as Joye imo. Because they're cheaper, some folks don't mind dealing with it. I noticed the contacts on attys that came with my Riva 510 from LF were shifting, off center, not as good as Joyes either. It's that rubber/silicon whachamacallit the contact sits on.

 

[dormouse]

I recommend buying Joye brand (the original 510 manufacturer, not a clone) and manual batteries only so you get the totally sealed threaded end. I have been using mine for over 8 months. You can get Joye brand at Liberty-flight.com (press the 20% off) or LiteCigUSA.net.

If you have 2 brand new batteries that will not charge then I would suspect the charger cable too. Hope you get that straightened out.

If you have used the batteries, the other things besides crappy quality and juice leaks on auto batteries that can damage even good 510 batteries:

1. Using LR (low resistance) atomizers or cartomizers on slim batteries - if you want to use LR then buy a fat battery model like JOYE Ego or Riva 510 at Liberty-Flights.com (and press the 20% off). If you want to use extreme LR then buy a mod

2. Putting slim 510 batteries on a Ego/Riva charging cable. Check your charging cable's flat threaded end with a magnifying glass - it should not say 420ma or 500ma or anything like that. It should be something more like 150 to 220ma. One company sold me a supposed 510 cable that was actually an Ego fast-charger cable for the fat battery models. It ruined the 510 battery I had been putting on that cable - the protection circuits stopped working (what flashes and disables the battery when it is almost out of power so you don't damage it by over-discharging) and its charge capacity went down to about an hour - ruined. I labeled that 420ma cable as a Riva cable and use it at work to charge my Riva, and replaced it with a new correct 510 charging cable at home.

3. Charging normal 510 or Ego on a 510-T charger. Somebody fried their Ego. There is something different about the 510-T chargers. When you buy a 510-T most vendors state to only charge them on their own charger but do not warn you to not charge any other 510's on the 510-T charger

4. Mixing up normal 510 with the (grrrrrrrr) reverse polarity "FS510" or other 510-threaded devices charger (like Blu - that is also reverse polarity). Stick real 510 batteries in chargers for either of those and you will literally fry the batteries. Apparently there is also one reverse polarity Ego clone (Ego-J or Ego-JD or something?) I tell people to just stay away from clones unless you know it is physically and electrically compatible with the vast majority of that model as well as the original manufacturer version.

 

[JustaGuy]

dormouse, you covered just about everything except 'user error' and act of God!

 

[swedishfish]

Holy crap that seemed to work! Thank you. Not sure what I did, I just monkeyed with the center hole a bit and now it's charging normally.

I've had to do this with several batteries. Even a couple of my older batteries. I think from screwing them on/off the charger or screwing the battery too tightly on the charger the center post of the battery gets pushed in a bit. Some of the bigger cartos like the ego-e seem to do this too.

As long as you do it lightly, sometimes it's just necessary to adjust the battery or the carto so they make contact.

 

[MackDaddy]

just get a roughstack or one like it and never worry about batteries... you can get them everywhere

its alot better than depending on china manufacturing quality