Popping sound when I vape

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Minor popping is good to me. It is burning the juice off the coil. But, to much popping means to many watts. I get a sizzle and I think it is burning well in order to keep the coil clean...or at least cleaner, but not burning the juice. Drawing a lot of air helps to cool the juice, too. I just don't suck that much.

It is all about balance, but sizzle is good. (I think)

Obviously you know how to make a great steak 'long with 'em fries.

G'luck. ;)
 
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Welcome to the world of RTAs. I have limited experience (compared to others here) but every RTA is different (haven't tried the one you are using) I don't think it's a big problem. So many variables (including the juice you are using) one thing I do know is when you put a new coil in (before wicking) do a "dry burn" (lower power short pulses) to see how even the coil glows (only needs to glow orange... not super hot) Should glow from the center out (or at least evenly across the coil) Spaced coils make this easier and there are tricks to try with contact coils (watch a video on "raking"... it helps) Coil placement (how high/side to side/how close to airflow) Then there is actual vaping technique... short draws vs long draws, pausing between vapes vs chain vaping, holding the RTA upright vs horizontal. Oh and airflow, how hard you "suck", hitting the fire button before drawing air... just so many things to consider. Wattage (that's another good reason to do dry hits... you will end up using slightly more watts when you have it wicked and the coil is wet with juice but it can give you an idea of what wattage to use)
 

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I just watched a video on that RTA... nice. Which airflow insert are you using (and which way do you have it turned)? Also how do you have the outside airflow set? Do you consider yourself a MTL or restricted DL vaper? I apologize for the 20 questions but that's how we can help figure this out. Here's the video I watched (you have probably seen it already):
 
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Hi, superuser. As promised, here are two pictures of my MD. The one with the wet coil is the current one. I didn't want to rewick today, but I found an older picture with a dry wick.
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Honestly, I find your wick looks much better than mine. But mine works great and your's not :pervy:

As I told you in our private conversation, the only thing I do is that I make sure that there are no gaps, even the smallest, between the wicking material and the walls of the wicking wells, especially in the edges of the wells.

I really don't know what I'm doing different than you. I had some minor leakage issues in the beginning, but after I got some feeling for the right amount of cotton (or in my case rayon) I never had any trouble. And I've never experienced any overly popping sounds. Just the slight sizzling that is normal.

I normally vape this coil around 14 watts. I just tested 20 watts and it's fine - no burnt taste of whatsoever.

You wrote that you pull up liquid to your mouth, if your wattage is too low. I never experienced this. What is the VG/PG ratio that you're using?

Did you try the coils that came with the atty? I haven't tried them, but I would think they are designed to work fine in this atty. So you could try a build with this coil, just to narrow down the source of error and see if it's your wicking or the coil that causes your issues.
 
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I just watched a video on that RTA... nice. Which airflow insert are you using (and which way do you have it turned)? Also how do you have the outside airflow set? Do you consider yourself a MTL or restricted DL vaper? I apologize for the 20 questions but that's how we can help figure this out. Here's the video I watched (you have probably seen it already):


i watched all the videos but i feel like rewiers u know they build and vape few puffs and all is good :p or maybe get paid laos i dunno hahaha....its wierd many people say its hard to wick this thing but no rewiers mention leaks or anything...aaanyways lately my builds are much better....i have the rdl base airflow with the holes not the fully open.....i use 4rth air flow hole or 5th but thats because i try to create less vacum into the juice area....i do mtl puffs but not short ones ...i always vape almost vertically....my last 2 builds are not bad....no leaks and slighty flooding that i fix with increase the airflow to max for less vacum for few puffs....for sure tho this tank is kinda tricky but i feel i will make it....as u say its sooooooooo many variables i use 70vg juice also....and 3mm coil to have more cotton to stuff into juice holes....
 

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Hi, superuser. As promised, here are two pictures of my MD. The one with the wet coil is the current one. I didn't want to rewick today, but I found an older picture with a dry wick.
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Honestly, I find your wick looks much better than mine. But mine works great and your's not :pervy:

As I told you in our private conversation, the only thing I do is that I make sure that there are no gaps, even the smallest, between the wicking material and the walls of the wicking wells, especially in the edges of the wells.

I really don't know what I'm doing different than you. I had some minor leakage issues in the beginning, but after I got some feeling for the right amount of cotton (or in my case rayon) I never had any trouble. And I've never experienced any overly popping sounds. Just the slight sizzling that is normal.

I normally vape this coil around 14 watts. I just tested 20 watts and it's fine - no burnt taste of whatsoever.

You wrote that you pull up liquid to your mouth, if your wattage is too low. I never experienced this. What is the VG/PG ratio that you're using?

Did you try the coils that came with the atty? I haven't tried them, but I would think they are designed to work fine in this atty. So you could try a build with this coil, just to narrow down the source of error and see if it's your wicking or the coil that causes your issues.

thanks a lot mannnnnn....just was curious to see....hmmm yea we seem both do proper wicking i have tried many coils clapron twisted 28 26 gauges 2.5 3mm i did also study before go into rtas but the wicking is atty specific hahahha.....do u vape mtl? witch turntable u use? iuse 70vg....my last builds are not sooo problematic....also i wonder does your slide filling cup opens very hard? like i know its hard to say but is it very tight? like u feel it it kinda scratch metal on metal as u open it??? just curious cause i have a theory hahahahah again thanks a lottttttttttt i wont bother u anymore i think after 10 days i start to wick it correctly or i dont know what changed :D
 

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do u vape mtl? witch turntable u use? iuse 70vg....my last builds are not sooo problematic....also i wonder does your slide filling cup opens very hard? like i know its hard to say but is it very tight? like u feel it it kinda scratch metal on metal as u open it??? :D

Yes, I vape MTL most of the time and I'm using a 50/50 juice. My turntable setting is the smallest one (3 holes), and the outer airflow ring is set to 2 or 3.

No, my slide filling mechanism doesn't go too tight. I mean it is just so tight that it won't open unintentionally but not so tight that it feels like damaging something. Only after cleaning it's harder to open for the first time.
The sliding top cap is, by the way, the only spot where my MD transports a little liquid to the outside. It's not much, more like sweating. There's always some liquid in the cleft from the sliding mechanism. And this makes the sliding a lot smoother than when it's completely clean.
Is yours not wet inside the sliding top cap? If this is the case you could drop some juice on it for lubrication.

Good luck with your MD and keep us up to date about your progress.
 

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Yes, I vape MTL most of the time and I'm using a 50/50 juice. My turntable setting is the smallest one (3 holes), and the outer airflow ring is set to 2 or 3.

No, my slide filling mechanism doesn't go too tight. I mean it is just so tight that it won't open unintentionally but not so tight that it feels like damaging something. Only after cleaning it's harder to open for the first time.
The sliding top cap is, by the way, the only spot where my MD transports a little liquid to the outside. It's not much, more like sweating. There's always some liquid in the cleft from the sliding mechanism. And this makes the sliding a lot smoother than when it's completely clean.
Is yours not wet inside the sliding top cap? If this is the case you could drop some juice on it for lubrication.

Good luck with your MD and keep us up to date about your progress.

Hmmmmm....I use 70vg Soo it's a bit thicker than your juice and also my slide top fill mechanism is veeeeeery tight like when I slide it feels like metal to metal scratch and it don't have juice but I don't know if that's a good thing hmmmmm...I have a theory why I might have flooding issues I will make a thread about it to see what u veterans vapers think....tyvmmm again :)
 

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Sounds like you have things under control. I will tell you that I have two RTAs (the exact same brand/model) and one leaks, one doesn't. Also the airflow ring is super tight one one and not the other. Sometimes there are just issues with quality control/consistency. Also, sometimes tight airflow/fill slots ect will loosen up after awhile... or maybe just over tightened something when assembling the tank. Hey... it still beats buying "drop-in" coils and once you learn the tricks to a specific RTA, you will love it.
 
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@Superuser187, I'm wondering if your top cap seal is working?

As it should never be that difficult to move a top cap with a seal like that.

Yeah it works and u can feel the ruber part while u slide but at the same time u feel also the metal....I guess tolerances are a bit tighter and I will disassemble it today to see if there is anything going on in there maybe there is a little metal piece stuck in there or something....even I don't say it's Soo bad I think it will get looser as I use it... :D
 

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Yeah it works and u can feel the ruber part while u slide but at the same time u feel also the metal....I guess tolerances are a bit tighter and I will disassemble it today to see if there is anything going on in there maybe there is a little metal piece stuck in there or something....even I don't say it's Soo bad I think it will get looser as I use it... :D
Oh wait maybe u mean it it's sealing properly cause if it's not then maybe air can pass throught??? BTW I wonder if that happens then it helps the juice to flood the chamber???
 
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All it takes is a nick or cut in a seal, so I was wondering if your top cap seal has become damaged by the top cap not working exactly like it should @Superuser187. You should be able to slide it a lot more easier than what you describe that you're describing.

I don't have leakage from there but what would be the problem is it's not sealing well? Keeps the juice running into the changer and flood the coil?????
 
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