I have a vaporesso Target Pro mod and a Siren 2 RTA MTL. I've come to the conclusion that I prefer DL over MTL, and I also want to get a high power mod. I'm thinking of buying a Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W. I'm pretty new with RBAs, got my Siren 2 about a month ago. What would be possible frustrations I might be experiencing with this squonker mod? Aside from the need to constantly squeeze a bottle, which I think I can handle.
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All I do any more is squonk (other than using a pod mod at work).
If you can build an RDA, the only real learning curve is the squonking part - that is - not to over-squonk. Some squonk RDAs are very forgiving and you really have to try to get them to leak, like the Pulse 22. Others will leak from the airflow with the slightest over-squonk.
As far as the "constantly squeezing the bottle": yes part of squonking is actually squonking, but it is still much easier than a finicky RTA that leaks no matter how you build it. YMMV of course, but I have tried a lot of RTAs with mixed results and many leaked regardless of how I wicked them.
Squonking is just MUCH easier for me.
If you can build an RDA, the only real learning curve is the squonking part - that is - not to over-squonk. Some squonk RDAs are very forgiving and you really have to try to get them to leak, like the Pulse 22. Others will leak from the airflow with the slightest over-squonk.
As far as the "constantly squeezing the bottle": yes part of squonking is actually squonking, but it is still much easier than a finicky RTA that leaks no matter how you build it. YMMV of course, but I have tried a lot of RTAs with mixed results and many leaked regardless of how I wicked them.
Squonking is just MUCH easier for me.
I'll echo the comments already added here.
I came from RTAs and had no experience with RDAs when I began squonking. Now all I do is squonk, my RTAs are sitting on the shelf.
RDAs are much easier to wick since you don't have to worry about this causing them to leak. It didn't take me long to get the hang of how often to squonk, not to oversquonk, blah, blah. I've never had a pocket carried squonk mod leak in my pocket unless I oversquonked it and put it in my pocket without vaping it. The wicking will hold a good amount a juice, so it's not like you have to vape it dry before you pocket it either. I don't even really think about pocketing mine in relation to when I squonked, and haven't had issues.
To me, it is much more simple than an RTA, and I have no leaking issues with mine. I pocket carry a Pulse 80 all day long and have never made a mess in my shorts.
As far as constantly squeezing a bottle, it's not that bad really. Once you get used to how much/often to squonk, it's second nature. And I can get a good number of vapes in after squeezing the bottle. It's not like you have to squonk ever other pull or anything.
My standard mods and RTAs are basically gear for me to fall back on. It's been months since I've even used an RTA or a non-squonking mod.
I'm taking a week vacation and will be taking a standard Pico and my STM as a tank. This is really more because I know I don't have leaking issues with this tank, and I want something small and reliable where I can just drop in a new coil head if need be. No need to take any building equipment, cotton, etc with me. Also, I vape stronger juice in this and don't have to lug a large volume of juice on the trip. I'll fire it up a week before my vacation and if there is as much as a hiccup with that setup, my Pulse 80 and a few pre-built and wicked RDAs will take it's place.
Squonking for life.
I came from RTAs and had no experience with RDAs when I began squonking. Now all I do is squonk, my RTAs are sitting on the shelf.
RDAs are much easier to wick since you don't have to worry about this causing them to leak. It didn't take me long to get the hang of how often to squonk, not to oversquonk, blah, blah. I've never had a pocket carried squonk mod leak in my pocket unless I oversquonked it and put it in my pocket without vaping it. The wicking will hold a good amount a juice, so it's not like you have to vape it dry before you pocket it either. I don't even really think about pocketing mine in relation to when I squonked, and haven't had issues.
To me, it is much more simple than an RTA, and I have no leaking issues with mine. I pocket carry a Pulse 80 all day long and have never made a mess in my shorts.
As far as constantly squeezing a bottle, it's not that bad really. Once you get used to how much/often to squonk, it's second nature. And I can get a good number of vapes in after squeezing the bottle. It's not like you have to squonk ever other pull or anything.
My standard mods and RTAs are basically gear for me to fall back on. It's been months since I've even used an RTA or a non-squonking mod.
I'm taking a week vacation and will be taking a standard Pico and my STM as a tank. This is really more because I know I don't have leaking issues with this tank, and I want something small and reliable where I can just drop in a new coil head if need be. No need to take any building equipment, cotton, etc with me. Also, I vape stronger juice in this and don't have to lug a large volume of juice on the trip. I'll fire it up a week before my vacation and if there is as much as a hiccup with that setup, my Pulse 80 and a few pre-built and wicked RDAs will take it's place.
Squonking for life.
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You don't want to lay your squonk RDA on it's side, especially if it has juice wells. You will get leakage of the residual juice unless you have an RDA with bottom suction and no juice wells.
Another thing to consider is that changes in pressure/elevation and/or temp can cause juice to rise and self-squonk (like mercury rising in a thermometer). Not a major issue, though, unless you drive across mountains a lot or constantly go in and out with 30 degree differential.
Another thing to consider is that changes in pressure/elevation and/or temp can cause juice to rise and self-squonk (like mercury rising in a thermometer). Not a major issue, though, unless you drive across mountains a lot or constantly go in and out with 30 degree differential.
Fair disclosure I don't squonk. I'm pretty happy with my tanks. I guess one disadvantage might be size to battery ratio if that sort of thing bothers you, although I think there are plenty of good squonkers out there that are a reasonable size.
Some things that might put a person off like 99% of squokers being mechanical are not longer so true today. I'll admit that some of my RDAs are probably great, possibly greater than my RTAs but I remain really pretty happy with my RTAs.
My biggest issue is that I don't have an ADV and I also have a large purse, so I'm usually happier rotating my flavors and whatnot and etc., than sticking with one bottle of flavor (although I guess one might have more than one squonk and/or more than one bottle and etc.
As far of the mechanics of it, they don't seem to be terribly difficult honestly, I think it's something that most vapers can do without a TON of practice. Making sure it doesn't leak/get accidentally squonked, etc., well I guess that's all part of it.
So as a non-squonker I don't see a JILLION disadvantages, I just don't see 14 reasons to replace my favorite current 14 active setups with squonkers and etc but I imagine even I will break down past a certain point, eventually. Etc.
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Some things that might put a person off like 99% of squokers being mechanical are not longer so true today. I'll admit that some of my RDAs are probably great, possibly greater than my RTAs but I remain really pretty happy with my RTAs.
My biggest issue is that I don't have an ADV and I also have a large purse, so I'm usually happier rotating my flavors and whatnot and etc., than sticking with one bottle of flavor (although I guess one might have more than one squonk and/or more than one bottle and etc.
As far of the mechanics of it, they don't seem to be terribly difficult honestly, I think it's something that most vapers can do without a TON of practice. Making sure it doesn't leak/get accidentally squonked, etc., well I guess that's all part of it.
So as a non-squonker I don't see a JILLION disadvantages, I just don't see 14 reasons to replace my favorite current 14 active setups with squonkers and etc but I imagine even I will break down past a certain point, eventually. Etc.
Anna
The only draw back to the squonking I have found.... comes from catastrophic leakage events...... Break the RTA and all the juice dumb on the mod.. you wipe it down an get another atomizer... with the squonker a major leakage event is more likely to result in saturated electrical parts. Potential loss of mod. .
Fortunately good care and maintenence prevent most leakage.
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Fortunately good care and maintenence prevent most leakage.
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Thing is, an RDA is much less likely to break than an RTA.
Certainly internal leaks can be problematical with regulated squonk mod. But with a mech you take it apart, rinse it out in the sink, dry it, and put it back together.
Was talking about the type of atty.. just leaks....Thing is, an RDA is much less likely to break than an RTA.
Certainly internal leaks can be problematical with regulated squonk mod. But with a mech you take it apart, rinse it out in the sink, dry it, and put it back together.
squonker rarely leak at the atty. And when the atty leaks it mainly because the user oversquonks. Squonk do develope leaks in the connection between bottle and mod and the bottle itself.
Just describing risk of damage from a tank vs a squonk system breakdown.
Squonk gives best of both worlds... vape and ease of a dripper. NO DRIPPING. 8 to 10ml without having to run a coke can for a RTA.
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I do both. I don't have a problem with leaky RTAs because I have a hammer. If one of them leaks I simply smash it to pieces and get another. No problem. And I like squonking as well. RDAs-- squonkers use regular old RDAs with a hole in the pin to admit juice-- are easy to build; usually easier than RTAs. Oversquonking... it's like a phase everyone goes through. You have to learn how. But once you've mastered the trick of when and how much to squonk, the problem goes away. Some mods are annoying because they get leaky at the mod-atty junction. That's usually a design problem and isn't fixable, but sometimes changing the atty is helpful. Once you get a combo that works and doesn't leak, hang on to it. And @Rossum is right: if you're comfortable with a mech, a mech squonker is the way to go.
Disadvantages-
The size of a squonk mod is almost always going to be larger than a non squonk counterpart with the same number of batteries.
For some people starting out there is a learning curve to filling and inserting the bottle and not make a mess. This gets easier the more you do it though.
And finally, what has been mentioned above, over squonking.
Advantages-
Convenience of having a juice resivoir inside the mod, you won't have to pack extra bottles with you as much.
Flavor of an RDA without the hassle of dripping.
Low chance of leaks and getting juice on you and/or your stuff. (At least after you get used to your equipment)
Less likely to break an atomizer when compared to a regular mods with RTAs since squonks use RDAs and they don't tend to use fragile materials like glass.
You don't have to refill nearly as often as an RTA.
Squonking makes you one of the cool kids, women will want you and men will want to be you.
The size of a squonk mod is almost always going to be larger than a non squonk counterpart with the same number of batteries.
For some people starting out there is a learning curve to filling and inserting the bottle and not make a mess. This gets easier the more you do it though.
And finally, what has been mentioned above, over squonking.
Advantages-
Convenience of having a juice resivoir inside the mod, you won't have to pack extra bottles with you as much.
Flavor of an RDA without the hassle of dripping.
Low chance of leaks and getting juice on you and/or your stuff. (At least after you get used to your equipment)
Less likely to break an atomizer when compared to a regular mods with RTAs since squonks use RDAs and they don't tend to use fragile materials like glass.
You don't have to refill nearly as often as an RTA.
Squonking makes you one of the cool kids, women will want you and men will want to be you.
I'm comfortable with a mech, yet I disagree that a mech squonker is the way to go. Squonkers can be very handy when, for example, you're driving a car, but still nevertheless squonking cannot replace dripping on an RDA for several important reasons, like, when squonking you can't aim drops of juice directly onto the coils, and, unless your preferences in mods are highly unconventional IMO, you can't use your favorite mods.
I have an aurora squonker I haven't been able to use as a squonker because I over squonk. Can I use my dead rabbit or combo with it if I decide to try again? I just won another squonk box and would like to know how to use one by the time the new one arrives. Both rdas have squonk pins.
Over squonking is easily remedied by not pressing the bottle as hard. It should be very hard to over squonk the dead rabbit since it is a top airflow rda, I would suggest starting with it.
I'm gonna chime in here with a lil pointer about that dam Gbox .my bottle never properly sealed regardless how hard i pushed it up in there.So i got a silicone bottle for a "luxotic" [?] and replaced the stock bottle with that,problem with that was you either remove the cover to refill or get a flask,i went with the flask
that being said,i do like the Gbox and supplied rda
that being said,i do like the Gbox and supplied rda
My biggest issue with squonking (with a gbox at least ) is the fact that I have to wipe the bottle sometimes as it gets wet but other than that not much i hate tbh.
The hard plastic bottles tend to do that. If pressed too hard (like when the bottle is almost empty and you are trying to get the last of it out) it will make the mouth of the bottle deform slightly and unseal momentairily and can let some juice escape the bottle.
I love my Gbox and squonking so much that, like others, I've retired my RTAs. I always knew I vaped way too much to have to drip...I would have constantly had a mod in one hand and juice bottle in the other. I found a little single battery regulated squonk on sale one day on a site for like $15 and free delivery so curiosity got the best of me. When I tried it I was AMAZED!!! I'd never used an RDA before and couldn't imagine getting any more flavor than I was already getting from my best RTA. When my shock finally wore off I pre-ordered my Gbox two days later and have never looked back lol. I can only think of one downside and that is that I blow thru considerably more juice in my squonks. The advantages FAR outweigh that one disadvantage tho IMO. As far as oversquonking I pulled my top cap so I could see what I was doing until I got a feel for it
I have an Aurora, a BF Killer,a Rage and a GBox along with a couple different mech squonkers. I don't really like mech mods but they are good for backups. My GBox is my least favorite because of the bottles, the TC mode isn't good, I don't like the way it fits my paws but it is a decent mod. I do use it and I will be modifying it to use silicone bottles. I really like the Aurora and the BF Killer. The only drawback is they are single 18650 mods and I end up changing batteries more often. That doesn't bother me because I alway carry spares. My Rage with a Chief King RDA is by far my favorite. I carry it with me all day. The Rage does live up to the hype. Squonking is nice but I still like my drippers for sure.
P.S. I'd recommend for a newbie in the squonk world pick up an OBS Crius RDA. The way the airflow works makes it almost impossible to over squonk. It you over squonk it just floods but you have to try to do that. I have my Crius on my Gbox. It works great.
P.S. I'd recommend for a newbie in the squonk world pick up an OBS Crius RDA. The way the airflow works makes it almost impossible to over squonk. It you over squonk it just floods but you have to try to do that. I have my Crius on my Gbox. It works great.
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