Deal me injust getting ready to post the same quote you did DJ...
1000-100X less than ciggies... gimme my vape
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I think this is just more garbage and I think that the Tabaco companies are paying these people to say that vaping is so much worse than smoking. Until they show me some good cold hard facts that vaping is worse for me than smoking I am going to stick with it.
If they want facts I will give them facts.
Since I quit smoking I feel I can actually go for a big long walk and still have my breathe. Since I quit smoking I do not have a wezz. Since I quit smoking I do not stink like an ash tray. Since I quit smoking I do not wake up with massive head aches in the morning.
Screw them all until they show concrete proof to us all take it with a grain of salt.
If they want facts I will give them facts.
Since I quit smoking I feel I can actually go for a big long walk and still have my breathe. Since I quit smoking I do not have a wezz. Since I quit smoking I do not stink like an ash tray. Since I quit smoking I do not wake up with massive head aches in the morning.
Screw them all until they show concrete proof to us all take it with a grain of salt.
We like to call it a "play room" here at our house!Well in all fairness the kids will be locked in the dunge....I mean playing in the basement till then.
Potentially dangerous molecules detected in e-cigarette aerosols
"This is the first step," Richie said. "The identification of these radicals in the aerosols means that we can't just say e-cigarettes are safe because they don't contain tobacco. They are potentially harmful. Now we have to find out what the harmful effects are."
Richie is currently conducting studies to carefully measure total numbers of free radicals in e-cigarette aerosols and to identify their chemical structures.
"That will help us interpret the data better to know how dangerous they are," he said.
They say they don't know if the molecules are dangerous. Basically the article is meaningless.
Although you can prove almost anything if you change the model for the experiment enough.
Did anyone happen to get a glance at the related stories to the right?
These people with "more education " apparently think that grape seed extract has the power to greatly reduce damage from carbon monoxide, formaldehyde and ammonia when used on filters made from plastic. Their bs smells worse than cowboy killers. Next.
E-Cigarettes Not Associated with More Smokers Quitting
- "More women, younger adults and people with less education used e-cigarettes."
Researchers Create a Healthier Cigarette
-"Using natural antioxidant extracts in cigarette filters, the researchers were able to demonstrate that lycopene and grape seed extract drastically reduced the amount of cancer-causing free radicals passing through the filter."
- "More women, younger adults and people with less education used e-cigarettes."
Researchers Create a Healthier Cigarette
-"Using natural antioxidant extracts in cigarette filters, the researchers were able to demonstrate that lycopene and grape seed extract drastically reduced the amount of cancer-causing free radicals passing through the filter."
These people with "more education " apparently think that grape seed extract has the power to greatly reduce damage from carbon monoxide, formaldehyde and ammonia when used on filters made from plastic. Their bs smells worse than cowboy killers. Next.
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if you let the free radicals loose.... will they become free roaming radicals? Ive heard free roaming is better than organic... must be healthy
This.
I read the article last night (apparently reprinted elsewhere as I could read the whole thing). I cheesed me off to see the big, negative headline then see the above buried in the story.
I really never read these articles.
Besides, it never really BOTHERED me much that ecigs may not be 100% safe. Or even 90% safe.
All I ever really wanted out of vaping was harm reduction from cigarettes.
I feel I am getting that.
I have never, and will never, consider vaping to be safer than NOT vaping. so I guess I just don't have the expectations that some people do.
But i just counted my free radicals and I'm only at like 5 of them.
I think you better return your ejuice and ask for a refund. You got ripped off.
Some math... according to the story ecigs are 99.0 - 99.9% safer than cigs.
If it takes 20 - 40 years for cigs to kill you, then at 100 - 1000 times less, it will take a minimum of 2,000 - 20,000 years to kill you.
The quotes from the researcher are simply Orwellian.
If it takes 20 - 40 years for cigs to kill you, then at 100 - 1000 times less, it will take a minimum of 2,000 - 20,000 years to kill you.
The quotes from the researcher are simply Orwellian.
They want $35 for 48 hours access to that pdf of the actual study report.
I gave some info on results and methods (I have free access).
What is unacceptable is mob behavior of us, vapers. Trying to smash anything we think we do not like without understanding why we do not like it, or may be we should like it?
I hope that the full report becomes available for free somewhere online. If anyone finds it please post a link. I'm curious as to the results for each of the ejuice a tested compared to the pg/water and vg/water tested. Wondering if their were any real controls tested, like air only and water only. If not I am going to be skeptical...
The details in the paper dont matter. What matters is that very good news is being spun as very bad news for propaganda purposes. The article tells you all you need to know about the Orwellian lies being spun.
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