Potentially Dangerous

[Hans Wermhat]

Did anyone happen to get a glance at the related stories to the right?

Yup. Read several of them. The whole page seems to be geared towards convincing people that e-cigs are evil and we are better off if we just keep smoking.

Like the article that is headlined to make you think vaping CAUSES heavy drinking? If you actually read it, it says that smokers who ALREADY drank heavily CONTINUE to do so when they switch to vaping. Has anyone EVER claimed that switching to e-cigs would help you with alcohol addiction?

Or the one that says e-cigs can't be shown to help people stop or reduce consumption of traditional cigs? There are millions of people on dozens of public forums who post daily about their success. I guess these "scientists" don't know about the internet.

The one I found to be most illustrative of their motives is the article about how BT is on our side because they are trying their best to make cigarettes safer by putting MORE additives in them so we don't have to switch to the evil e-cigs and take away their profits.

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What is unacceptable is mob behavior of us, vapers.

What is unacceptable to me is misleading disinformation propagated by entities that are supposed to exist to promote the general good. The folks that write and fund stuff like this know that most of the sheeple out there can't be bothered to actually read the whole article, but will see the government backing and assume that it is true. They just read the headline and the first few intentionally misleading sentences and think they have all the facts. All they really have is a biased opinion from a junk scientist who's main concern is how to skew the results of their "studies" so that they can be used as propaganda by the folks who fund their "research". They bury a few actual details in the middle of the article as some sort of half- attempt to make their "findings" seem legitimate when 90% of what they write is just speculation and fear-mongering tied loosely together with pre-engineered results obtained through flawed scientific methods. It's like watching CNN's HLN channel and thinking you know what is going on in the world.

 

[CleoPhoenix]

Like the article that is headlined to make you think vaping CAUSES heavy drinking? If you actually read it, it says that smokers who ALREADY drank heavily CONTINUE to do so when they switch to vaping. Has anyone EVER claimed that switching to e-cigs would help you with alcohol addiction?

I would have had a blast with that article. I work for a recovery based organization and at meetings, it's coffee and smoking before and after. I've seen many people switch to vaping and maintained sobriety because vaping doesn't produce the feelings of alcohol by a long shot. How could I take the way they provide studies seriously. "Propaganda" is indeed the first work that comes to mind.

They bury a few actual details in the middle of the article as some sort of half- attempt to make their "findings" seem legitimate when 90% of what they write is just speculation and fear-mongering tied loosely together with pre-engineered results obtained through flawed scientific methods.

True, and it is frustrating because many people take these articles at face value. I've heard friends and coworkers say "I read those things are actually very dangerous." They know very little about how they work so it plays on fear of the unknown. They know how terrible cigarettes are, but they feel more comfortable with the idea of smoking them because they rather know something is really bad than not being sure at all. Articles that twist sturdy research don't help the cause and undoes years of success stories from vapers.

 

[Maiar]

Some math... according to the story ecigs are 99.0 - 99.9% safer than cigs.

If it takes 20 - 40 years for cigs to kill you, then at 100 - 1000 times less, it will take a minimum of 2,000 - 20,000 years to kill you.

The quotes from the researcher are simply Orwellian.

I've read a few articles about how the first people to live to be 150 years old are likely already born. So that said, I have no desire to die and am personally banking on technology giving me a shot to see if I can kill myself by vaping for 10,000 years lol.