RDA Praxis Derringer V1.2 Problems

[kkay59]

Replacement o rings aren't a big deal. I would be mad too though. They can easily send you new o rings. Your drip tip problem would have me totally ticked off though. I have a cheap Derringer clone that had not been finished worth a flip. I had to sand on it, and sand on it. It does not have a problem with drip tips, from those that I've tried. I have to be careful taking off the top cap, because the afc ring wants to come up with it. I paid around 14 dollars for it, and it came with all the colored caps too. The threads were not finished well either, and could cut you easily. But most of my problems were handled by light sanding. If I paid for an authentic, and it wasn't just right, at that price? I'd be sending it back. I love the rda after I worked on it.

Hey,

So, I bought into the hype and purchased a Derringer 1.2 from Viper-Vape. The tolerance of the orings and 510 drip tip slot are soooo loose. I haven't even tried to use it. Have any of you had similar issues with your Derringer V1.2/solutions? I'm pretty ...... at the customer service over at Viper-Vapes. I sent them an email explaining the issue and that I hadn't even used the device and they pretty much told me to contact praxis and let them know what they said. I get that the store didn't make the RDA, but still, it's unused and unuseable and I received the unit from them. Shouldn't they take responsibility for this $89.00 issue??

Update: Received an email from Praxis saying they're gonna send out new, custom o rings. That's cool, but how does this fix the fact that none of standard drip tips fit snug??

 

[muzichead]

I have both the V1 and the V1.2 of this atty, and they most definitely changed the tolerances with the second run. It's much looser (both the cap and the afc ring) - apparently this was in response to feedback that the V1 was too tight (which wouldn't have been my vote).

I squonk bf modded verisons of them both, so I don't have need to take the cap off other than to rewick/rebuild. I do, however, pocket both every day and I didn't find the (relative) looseness of the second version to be an issue. I haven't even felt the need to do the floss mod - it's that little of a practical issue for my use.

In any event, Praxis is sending out replacement o-rings, so that gets some points in my book (after losing some for making an apparently hurried decision about the tolerance change - I think they "fixed" a problem that didn't exist).

Is it perfect? Hardly. Is it worth what they're asking for it? That's up to each of us. Vote with your wallet (or sell it on in the classies for what you paid for it).

I have a V1 and though it seems at times the top cap and AFC ring are tight, they really aren't. The only reason it was addressed by Praxis was because the atty was designed for drippers. This would make it a problem as they are constantly taking the top caps on and off to drip. This is senseless as that is what the designed "drip tip" is for... It was designed to drip through the tip and not taking the top cap on and off so many times. That is a sure fire way to jack up your o-rings!!!

Honestly though, I have an authentic, and no exaggeration, none of my 510 drip tips (and I have some nicer friction fit and ninja tips) fit snug. That's just bad QC for ya tho. Just cuz you received a better unit than I did doesn't mean that the consistency is there and that all the Derringers have a solid 510 tolerance.

I have a couple friction fit drip tips that won't fit snug in my V1, but then I have a few, (friction and standard), that won't even go into the stem at all... It's the nature of vaping.

But my main question/idea was whether the vendor should in any way be responsible for my issues, assuming that I would send the atty back. Jus' wondering what ya'll thought 'bout dat

I understand your original point and yes, the vendor should've taken care of you instead of blowing you off... This, IMO, is a perfect time to let the vendor know they have gotten their last $ from me and also let them know I will stop at nothing to make sure my problem with them found its way to every social media outlet in existence!!! It certainly would create a snowball effect at some point and I don't think that is what they would want...

 

[kkay59]

It depends on which drip tip I use, as to whether I drip via the drip tip, or open the top cap. If have a wide bore tip, it's not a problem. If the hole is more narrow, it is a problem for me. My hands are not steady, and that makes dripping more difficult that way. With my Vulcan, I can take the whole top cap off, and it is very easy to pop on, and off. Plus I can put a Chuff Enuff on there, and easily drip into that. The Derringer size makes this a much harder task to do.

 

[muzichead]

It depends on which drip tip I use, as to whether I drip via the drip tip, or open the top cap. If have a wide bore tip, it's not a problem. If the hole is more narrow, it is a problem for me. My hands are not steady, and that makes dripping more difficult that way. With my Vulcan, I can take the whole top cap off, and it is very easy to pop on, and off. Plus I can put a Chuff Enuff on there, and easily drip into that. The Derringer size makes this a much harder task to do.

My post was merely a generalization that most people that drip remove the top cap to do so. I would bet 9/10 video reviewers do, regardless of what dripper or drip tip they are using...

 

[snow blind]

My post was merely a generalization that most people that drip remove the top cap to do so. I would bet 9/10 video reviewers do, regardless of what dripper or drip tip they are using...

Not that it matters but i know that loads of people drip right through the Derringer's drip tip... it's super easy with the wide bore tip and top cap that sits right off the posts height wise.

 

[muzichead]

Not that it matters but i know that loads of people drip right through the Derringer's drip tip... it's super easy with the wide bore tip and top cap that sits right off the posts height wise.

Seems you missed the memo also!!!

 

[xdarktime]

How do I purchase this so called bradscap? Would someone be down to help me with that, i think that it could fix at least one of my problems if i end up being unable to return the rda.

Edit: ...and purchased @ lostartliquids... looks dope

 

[xdarktime]

all my complaints aside, i've been building some sick ni200 coils with the slotted grub posts. really nice connection, for all you temp control users

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Nice Darkside, I hope you like them. Be forewarned that the only issue I know of with brads caps is if you take them on and off a lot they'll become loose. So put it on and if you like it I suggest leaving it, at least for the most part. It's very tight the first time, so mine are just married to my Derringers. I hope you get it all worked out bro, it's a fine vape aside from those issues (a mighty fine vape).

I see you live in Boston (sometimes at least ) - what part? I've spent a lot of time in JP. Good music scene.

 

[DonnyX]

So far no big problems with my v 1.2. I did try a few drip tips and they fit ok. I just got 2 drip tips from Praxis and are working fine not getting very hot. The o-rings are slightly lose but no leaking problems. It's been a few days so I'll give it some time and see where it goes.

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[DonnyX]

Isn't this the same concept ?

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[tmel]

I own 2 V1 Derringers, modded for BF. If they had loose o-rings, I would spend 5 minutes fixing the with some floss or contacting Praxis to find out that the o-ring sizes are 1mm thick x 14mm for AFC and 18mm for the cap. I did not have to worry about anything being wrong with either of mine as they came from ChowderHead1972 who does amazing work and any Derringers modded by him have higher quality insulators for the 510.

Flavor is controlled by many things but an often overlooked one is distance between coil and mouth. The drip tip the Derringer comes with is far too short and you drink the juice. 10mm Wide Mouth Ultra Wide Bore Stackable Delrin Drip Tip - Avid Vaper is perfect to retain the flavor.

We finally have a flavor chasing atty that is great as a dripper or as a squonker and you're concerned about a part that you can buy anywhere in the 100's for a few bucks? I'll be using my Derringers for the next however long I am vaping, nothing gets better then a Derringer and a Reo with 3mm ReadyXWick.

All I have done to my vaping device in the last 4 months is change the battery, fill the bottle, rinse my Derringer, dry burn for 2 minutes (once a week), let rest 5 minutes and squonk

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I too think the Derringer is the best I've had tmel, but YMMV on that drip tip thing...I use a shorter driptip than the praxis one (by a hair), no juice in my mouth.

 

[xdarktime]

SO... I finally got a proactive response from Praxis after a few emails. They say they are willing to send me a new top cap if I mail them back the one I received. I'm pretty satisfied with this, and while I was confident that this is what would happen eventually, I just wish I didn't have to jump through as many hoops. I get what some of you are saying about just buying o rings--I mean, yeah, they're super cheap--and if this was a clone, I would never have complained and done just that or used floss. I was ......, because in my opinion, the primary reason to buy authentic--beyond the broader innovation argument, which is really just an argument for capitalism in general--is for ease of mind and quality. Quality extends beyond just the product itself but also includes access to fair and effective customer service.

 

[DonnyX]

Yeah I'm kind of ...... that there's no way to fully authenticate their atty from a clone other then the slotted middle post. When I sent a email asking how to tell if it's authentic. Also mine didn't even come in a plain cardboard box like some others just a ziplock bag this is the response I got.

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[xdarktime]

Mine didn't even come in a plastic bag. it had one layer of bubble wrap and was thrown into a medium sized USPS folder. How can praxis even say with a straight face that "the packaging for this release were plastic bags". I'm not quite sure what to think about these guys.

 

[Libbydude]

Mine came in a decent box. The atty and spare parts were all tucked neatly into compartments. There was even a $5 off coupon for panda express.

 

[DonnyX]

Mine didn't even come in a plastic bag. it had one layer of bubble wrap and was thrown into a medium sized USPS folder. How can praxis even say with a straight face that "the packaging for this release were plastic bags". I'm not quite sure what to think about these guys.

I agree it's a great little Atomizer but come on no serial number or authenticity not even a box.


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[thmstwwng]

Got mine few days ago. Come with cardboard box with 2 ziplock plastic bag, 1 for derringer and another for spare kit. I notice the spare o-ring is thicker & smaller than the ones on the derringer.

 

[fellybacca]

Got mine few days ago. Come with cardboard box with 2 ziplock plastic bag, 1 for derringer and another for spare kit. I notice the spare o-ring is thicker & smaller than the ones on the derringer.

I'm eagerly waiting on mine. Should be here Monday. Grabbed one a few months ago from a local b&m. Even though it was a clone, I still like to support the locals. Loved the atty enough to buy the authentic. I'd rather have peace of mind knowing that it's made of better material than the clone and I'm supporting the modder. It'll be sitting on my mod for at least the next 6-9 months. The anticipation is very real.