Premium Carto filling Blues-Your best method?
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thanks jen ... i do usually wait longer to refill and try to get 10+ drops in like I did the regular cartos ....guess i will just have to be more diligent with these...wouldn't be worth it if these things didn't perform so much better (IMO)
My response to Mickirette's question brought up a question for myself. If you know that the cart is dry and can hold...say...20 drops. Could you not do the condom refill method with 10 drops from the battery end and then flip the carto over and do the CCRM with 10 drops from the mouth end? Would this not make sense and remove the need for shaking and / or spinning? I don't know, I'm just asking because it seems logical to me. Do half a fill from one end, then flip it over and do the other half from the other. No muss, no fuss....
I did it this way for awhile and it does work well, the no fuss is definitely there. The no muss however, not so much. I usually ended up with juice all over my hands because I wasn't being quite so careful at cleaning one end before I dipped the other and the juice does sometimes leak out of the end just turned downward. If you don't mind keeping a paper towel tucked into the palm of one hand while you use this method and wiping each end off carefully as you go, it's a pretty good way to do things.
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Yvw MechTech, and you've stumbled on our dirty little secret. The forum is actually more addicting than anything in the juice!
Yes, refills are the same as fills. What I wrote was for refills. Fills will probably take more juice but start with the same amount and then add a little at a time until you get the same results.
I find the best way to top off for me is to either drip right into the cap end, or just remove the cap with my italian horn necklace and tilt the cart on its side and add a couple drops...Hope this helps!
Kimmy ~
Can you maybe give us a list of suppliers where we can get an Italian horn necklace like yours???
Kimmy ~
Can you maybe give us a list of suppliers where we can get an Italian horn
necklace like yours???
Hahaha! I picked it up at a flea market in the area for 2 dollars! It works wonders, I highly reccomend. Maybe a video is in order to show the exact process
Video! Absolutely. Enjoyed your last review very much.
You know, I've been thinking about this patience issue that has come up a few times in this thread. For me, one of the things I do to help with my definite lack of patience is that I fill multiple cartos at once. I line up 5 or 10 of them, put a few drops in the first one, move on to the second and put a few drops in that one. Then I move on to the third. I keep doing this until I've filled each carto about a third of the way. When I come to the end of the row, I go back to the first one and put in a few more drops, and then move on to the second one again. This keeps me busy and productive, while at the same time allowing a little time to pass so that the filler can absorb the liquid I put in each time.
I have the patience and attention span of a gnat. I believe that's why God gave me a severely autistic son. He thought I could use some help in those areas.
You know, I've been thinking about this patience issue that has come up a few times in this thread. For me, one of the things I do to help with my definite lack of patience is that I fill multiple cartos at once. I line up 5 or 10 of them, put a few drops in the first one, move on to the second and put a few drops in that one. Then I move on to the third. I keep doing this until I've filled each carto about a third of the way. When I come to the end of the row, I go back to the first one and put in a few more drops, and then move on to the second one again. This keeps me busy and productive, while at the same time allowing a little time to pass so that the filler can absorb the liquid I put in each time.
I have the patience and attention span of a gnat. I believe that's why God gave me a severely autistic son. He thought I could use some help in those areas.
Video! Absolutely. Enjoyed your last review very much.
You know, I've been thinking about this patience issue that has come up a few times in this thread. For me, one of the things I do to help with my definite lack of patience is that I fill multiple cartos at once. I line up 5 or 10 of them, put a few drops in the first one, move on to the second and put a few drops in that one. Then I move on to the third. I keep doing this until I've filled each carto about a third of the way. When I come to the end of the row, I go back to the first one and put in a few more drops, and then move on to the second one again. This keeps me busy and productive, while at the same time allowing a little time to pass so that the filler can absorb the liquid I put in each time.
I have the patience and attention span of a gnat. I believe that's why God gave me a severely autistic son. He thought I could use some help in those areas.
Aww, I am sorry to hear about your son. God bless him!
I don't think many people have true patience...in these day and ages anyway! It took me awhile to get used to refilling because for the last couple months I just used cartos once and put the used ones to the side. Now I'm starting to refill...I was like what the heck am I doing wrong..you'll get it! Thank the lord for the carto condom fill method...the older one I had NO patience for, especially with the old cartos. Prying the cap off, taking ou the oring..wayyy too much for me!
Kimmy ~ I thank you for the kind words for my son. He is a great kid and he has been an absolute blessing for my wife and I, as well as his two older brothers. Despite the challenges associated with his condition, I truly don't know what I would do without him in my life.
nice method kimmy! & ty for the heads up on it. i use cartos that are similar to the hardcap premiums, i use the condom fill method from the battery end, with the top off (these have removable caps tho), and when the liquid pools, i just 'thermometer shake' the carto a couple times and that works for me. usually can do 1/2-3/4 of a carto condom between shakes.
i use cartos that are similar to the hardcap premiums, i use the condom fill method from the battery end, with the top off (these have removable caps tho), and when the liquid pools, i just 'thermometer shake' the carto a couple times and that works for me. usually can do 1/2-3/4 of a carto condom between shakes.
I know...send all your carts and juice to me...I'll fill them for you
And vape them for us too I imagine?
Hugs to you, your wife and your boys, Sherrick
My cousin has a severely autistic son so I know there are triumphs to counter the heartache and I'm glad you have those.
I don't have much to add that hasn't been said - I can only echo Kimmy's statement about going slow. I mean SNAILS PACE SLOW. I'm not crazy about it either - it's gotten to the point that I fill the condom about 60% and just push down over the course of the day. Patience is not a virtue I possess either.
In regards to the mentions of syringes - I'm surprised to see an 18 gauge mentioned so much on these forums - I guess people recommend 18 gauge because VG is thicker
because to me (and another member I spoke with about it) 18 is too large: the juice drips out without any pressure on the plunger and since the needle itself is so large it messes too much with the filling for my taste - I'm always afraid I'm going to wreck the carto. 8-oI've been back to using the flux bottles (Squeeze Bottles from Howard Electronics.. Low density squeeze bottles) as the 18 gauge needle that comes with them allow me to be more precise with my dripping into the carto - the standard plastic bottle or glass bottle with the dripper that most juices come with . . . the drops are just too big sometimes and it's easier to flood the carto.
Hugs to you, your wife and your boys, Sherrick
My cousin has a severely autistic son so I know there are triumphs to counter the heartache and I'm glad you have those.
Thank you, Yanks. Very kind of you. It's not an easy road sometimes, especially for the little guy (although he's 12 and not nearly so little anymore). But he handles so much of it with a smile and sometimes gritted teeth. Can't ask for more.
I've been meaning to ask you how you like those bottles now that you've had some time with them. I take it they are working out pretty well?
Well...thanks to all of you I have found my best method of filling these temperamental little beauties...Hooray!!!
Let me me first thank everyone that contributed to my education on this subject ...your ideas and encouragement were instrumental in my success...I would like to thank everyone individually (and have some) but time is limited...and you know who you are ...so I hope a warm THANK YOU ALL will suffice for now....
I found the syringe method to be the most effective for me ...although I had some success with everyone's suggestions ..this seemed to be the fastest for me.
I got over my fear of damaging the carto with this method, although it took some time and a little ingenuity to make me comfortable...some suggested that inserting a needle (sewing needle or straight pin I believe) in between the edge of the carto and the batting to make syringe [needle] insertion easier ....I found that a plastic toothpick dipped in the juice of choice to work very well ...it made an ample path and did not damage the filler (just pushed it to the side a little)
I found that i usually only needed one access point and by holding the carto on its side (so that the syringe was up) and starting at the fully inserted position, that the juice would usually soak in around the whole carto via gravity> from there I slowly pulled the needle out while injecting the juice...it worked almost flawlessly, almost every time. Some of the more densely packed cartos required two entry points and a bit more finesse, but nothing I would consider difficult.
I am actually not sure what gauge needle I have on my syringe but it is fairly thin...thin enough that the thicker juices are a little tough to pull in but not so much that I would want anything bigger... the smaller the better I think ...to limit the disturbance to the filler
I also like the syringe method because I can be more precise with the fill amount... I found that much more than the recommended (and factory equivalent) 1ml caused problems with performance...even though several cartos could hold more...it just worked better to stop at 1ml.
A couple of tips I would include in any filling method:
*Wear gloves (Im with you on this one nilus) this stuff can be pretty nasty in cuts and if you have chronic dry hands like me, it is tough to get off the skin)
*Use a disposable work surface; paper towels maybe or what I did was wrap my cutting board in plastic wrap...made cleanup a breeze and I have read that the nicotine in these juices can be much more toxic to animals and young children so better safe than sorry !!
* I also found that having a mouthwash soaked cloth around allows you to clean the outside of the cartos and prevent the nasty taste I have been getting due to my sloppiness. I now wipe my cartos down after filling, topping and whenever I am going to cap one for later use. A little extreme maybe but I am a bit of a neat freak !
Well there is my new method...hope this helps others that may have been having the same problem ... I guess everyone has their own favorite method and this is now mine
PS: I have perfected my top off method as well... I have found that if I hold the carto just right I can drip in the battery end very successfully.
I hold it at a very slight angle so the slight indentation (slot) is at an angle where it will help hold the juice until it runs into the hole... hope that made sense ... anyway I just drip a few drops in > and then turn it 180 deg > and drip a few more > repeating until full ...I usually get about ten to fifteen drops in depending on how long I wait between top offs
Sorry I went MIA for a while ...have had my grandson for the past several days ....he wont let me spend to much time on the puter (or anywhere else that is not directly participating in his happiness... but I love him for it)
So once again thank everyone for their input, I appreciate how supportive everyone here is and it was all very helpful !!
Steve
Let me me first thank everyone that contributed to my education on this subject ...your ideas and encouragement were instrumental in my success...I would like to thank everyone individually (and have some) but time is limited...and you know who you are ...so I hope a warm THANK YOU ALL will suffice for now....
I found the syringe method to be the most effective for me ...although I had some success with everyone's suggestions ..this seemed to be the fastest for me.
I got over my fear of damaging the carto with this method, although it took some time and a little ingenuity to make me comfortable...some suggested that inserting a needle (sewing needle or straight pin I believe) in between the edge of the carto and the batting to make syringe [needle] insertion easier ....I found that a plastic toothpick dipped in the juice of choice to work very well ...it made an ample path and did not damage the filler (just pushed it to the side a little)
I found that i usually only needed one access point and by holding the carto on its side (so that the syringe was up) and starting at the fully inserted position, that the juice would usually soak in around the whole carto via gravity> from there I slowly pulled the needle out while injecting the juice...it worked almost flawlessly, almost every time. Some of the more densely packed cartos required two entry points and a bit more finesse, but nothing I would consider difficult.
I am actually not sure what gauge needle I have on my syringe but it is fairly thin...thin enough that the thicker juices are a little tough to pull in but not so much that I would want anything bigger... the smaller the better I think ...to limit the disturbance to the filler
I also like the syringe method because I can be more precise with the fill amount... I found that much more than the recommended (and factory equivalent) 1ml caused problems with performance...even though several cartos could hold more...it just worked better to stop at 1ml.
A couple of tips I would include in any filling method:
*Wear gloves (Im with you on this one nilus) this stuff can be pretty nasty in cuts and if you have chronic dry hands like me, it is tough to get off the skin)
*Use a disposable work surface; paper towels maybe or what I did was wrap my cutting board in plastic wrap...made cleanup a breeze and I have read that the nicotine in these juices can be much more toxic to animals and young children so better safe than sorry !!
* I also found that having a mouthwash soaked cloth around allows you to clean the outside of the cartos and prevent the nasty taste I have been getting due to my sloppiness. I now wipe my cartos down after filling, topping and whenever I am going to cap one for later use. A little extreme maybe but I am a bit of a neat freak !
Well there is my new method...hope this helps others that may have been having the same problem ... I guess everyone has their own favorite method and this is now mine
PS: I have perfected my top off method as well... I have found that if I hold the carto just right I can drip in the battery end very successfully.
I hold it at a very slight angle so the slight indentation (slot) is at an angle where it will help hold the juice until it runs into the hole... hope that made sense ... anyway I just drip a few drops in > and then turn it 180 deg > and drip a few more > repeating until full ...I usually get about ten to fifteen drops in depending on how long I wait between top offs
Sorry I went MIA for a while ...have had my grandson for the past several days ....he wont let me spend to much time on the puter (or anywhere else that is not directly participating in his happiness... but I love him for it)
So once again thank everyone for their input, I appreciate how supportive everyone here is and it was all very helpful !!
Steve
Very nice and informative post, Steve. Glad you found a system that works for you. Enjoy that grandson. Seems the little ones don't want to stay little for very long.
Sherrick
Sherrick
Thank you Sherrick... I have gotten so much help from the people on this forum I try to give back anything I can
My grandson is the light of my life ...he has had a rough start in life; his father dropped out of his life early on and recently died so he is really attached to his poppop, and I to him... I sometimes miss the traditional relationship (grandchild to grandparent) but we have always had more than that and he gives me a greater purpose in my life, I guess similar to you and your son ... challenge can often create a more fulfilling relationship IMO
Thank you again for your help and kind thoughts
Steve
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