Premium vs budget E juice

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I've found stuff I love and hate out of both cheap and premium. Mostly what I've noticed is cheaper stuff is usually one flavor, like straight peaches or something. More expensive stuff usually has multiple flavors in one juice. Like what I'm using now. Karma Kream by Mr. Good Vape. It's peaches with two kinds of vanilla ice cream flavors. It's more complex, smoother and just an all around more enjoyable experience than cheap one flavor stuff.
 

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What is actually the difference I have vaped on the 20 something dollar a bottle 30 mL juice and the $9 30 milliliter E juice and I can't really tell the difference is there anything else really besides taste


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Mostly stores sell store made juice and I can beat them at the DIY game all day long.

Recently a new shop opened that sells the "high end" juices. So now its not an online game, they are staring me in the face.

Some of them are very good. I'm not sure what the secret is. I wish I did. I could blow through 30ml a day of Poseidon's Punch.
 

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Mostly stores sell store made juice and I can beat them at the DIY game all day long.

Recently a new shop opened that sells the "high end" juices. So now its not an online game, they are staring me in the face.

Some of them are very good. I'm not sure what the secret is. I wish I did. I could blow through 30ml a day of Poseidon's Punch.

Somehow poseidon's punch sounds like fresh oysters with a lemon slice squeezed right before you vape........ just sayin
 
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RTS has a good starter kit but all you really need is a bottle of PG,VG and NIC (I suggest starting at something close to what you want) or a simple multiple of it. 12 can be easily cut to 6 or 3. A few simple flavorings, A 1,3,10 luer lock needle and some bottles. Download ejuicemeup and your good to go. Start simple with single flavors. There are recipes everywhere.
 

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What is actually the difference I have vaped on the 20 something dollar a bottle 30 mL juice and the $9 30 milliliter E juice and I can't really tell the difference is there anything else really besides taste


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You really need an RDA to get the full flavors. And anything above 3mg nicotine and the nicotine will be destroying the juice flavors, so might as well just get the cheapest high nicotine juice you can find.... it all just tastes like nicotine anyway.
But, if you are vaping 3mg on an RDA, there is a clear difference. The flavors are tested better. Like a cheap juice from the budget mass juice vendor might have something like a raspberry flavor in it that could taste slightly off, faintly burnt, or otherwise just not a right raspberry. It possibly will gunk up your coils too. Or a cheap budget peanut butter just tasted like the peanuts are roasted too much. etc. etc. Generally these mass juice vendors have very simple flavor profiles too. But they make so many juices and some even offer adjustable pg/vg and nicotine level options that go so ridiculously high there would be no taste-able flavor left. Sometimes they even allow selectable levels of extra flavor shots too. Do you think they actually tested all of these different blends for all of these different flavors? Of course not, and many of them just don't work.

ETA: premium does not necessarily mean expensive. IMO, a premium juice is a juice from a vendor that only makes 10 or less flavors, does not offer adjustable pg/vg, does not offer flavor shots, and does not offer high nicotine levels. These are the juices that are very carefully crafted and perfected. Sometimes you can find great deals on stuff like this.
 
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I guess what I'm really asking is the quality of the Pg and Vg the same as anything else as in just as safe

If the issue is safety with ejuice, likely the most important factor is diketones in the flavoring. From that perspective some very expensive flavors could be considered less safe. Among the companies that I've found that test for diketones & publish their results, their prices are in sort of a mid-range and above. The least expensive juice I've found from a company with published results is Juice Mafia, at $8.99/$13.99 for 30 ml.
 

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You really need an RDA to get the full flavors. And anything above 3mg nicotine and the nicotine will be destroying the juice flavors, so might as well just get the cheapest high nicotine juice you can find.... it all just tastes like nicotine anyway.
But, if you are vaping 3mg on an RDA, there is a clear difference. The flavors are tested better. Like a cheap juice from the budget mass juice vendor might have something like a raspberry flavor in it that could taste slightly off, faintly burnt, or otherwise just not a right raspberry. It possibly will gunk up your coils too. Or a cheap budget peanut butter just tasted like the peanuts are roasted too much. etc. etc. Generally these mass juice vendors have very simple flavor profiles too. But they make so many juices and some even offer adjustable pg/vg and nicotine level options that go so ridiculously high there would be no taste-able flavor left. Sometimes they even allow selectable levels of extra flavor shots too. Do you think they actually tested all of these different blends for all of these different flavors? Of course not, and many of them just don't work.

ETA: premium does not necessarily mean expensive. IMO, a premium juice is a juice from a vendor that only makes 10 or less flavors, does not offer adjustable pg/vg, does not offer flavor shots, and does not offer high nicotine levels. These are the juices that are very carefully crafted and perfected. Sometimes you can find great deals on stuff like this.

Is it hard to build coils I've never done that before and for an RDA that's dripping right I drive a tractor trailer for a living don't know if I could handle that also don't you need 100 W plus device for RDA I have a and Mvp 3.0 pro that maxes out at 60watts


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Those expensive juices may be overpriced, but some of them are really killer. Whether they're worth it is up to the individual. To me, they're definitely worth it. Especially sincei always wait for coupon codes. So I may end up getting 5 $22 30 ml for say $16 a piece. Still crazy expensive compared to something like Vape Wild, but it's worth it to me. I guess if you're content with cheaper stuff, stay right there and don't even mess with the "premium" companies, you're lucky lol.
 
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Is it hard to build coils I've never done that before and for an RDA that's dripping right I drive a tractor trailer for a living don't know if I could handle that also don't you need 100 W plus device for RDA I have a and Mvp 3.0 pro that maxes out at 60watts


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It's quite easy to do. Your coils will last much longer. The juice will taste much better. The wattage required depends on how many coils and the wire gauge you are using. TBH, I drip and drive every day. I can do it without even taking my hands off the steering wheel. I just hold my mod in the hand thats on the steering wheel and use my shifting hand to squirt some juice down the wide-bore drip tip. It takes all of about 2 seconds.
 
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