DITTO! Capitalism's survival needs the population to be dumbed down.
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DITTO! Capitalism's survival needs the population to be dumbed down.
And it's a shame that only a few people like you and I actually see this happening.
I tend to think now the United States would have been better off if the Soviets smoked us with nukes back in the 80's. Anything is better than this s*it we're facing.
If you mean that as written I couldn't disagree more. If you mean that the birth of socalism requires an ignorant public then I agree.
All western governments have cottoned on to this 'tax you for your own good' method of taxation. It's so simple and so clever ....whatever it is ...foods, fuel, tobacco, booze... demonize it and blame the tax increases on trying to save your health or the environment and they are guaranteed to have loads of people that will be supporting them for doing so. It's the divide and conquer principle of taxation. They know they would have riots in the streets if they tried to increase taxes on everyone equally. Can you believe just how smart it is that governments have found a way to get dumb people cheering them on for 'raising' taxes.
The UK government keeps raising taxes on fuel 'to save the environment' ...then gives the go ahead for more airport runways!! ..hahahaha and still stupid people believe they are increasing the taxes to save the environment.
They have taken the demonization of tobacco smoking too far now and are in danger of loosing the cash-cow of smoking taxation, that's why they will probably do everything they can to prevent us from vaping, they have known that most of us simply cannot stop smoking and have no alternative but now we do!! and unfortunately for them they have a very big problem in how they can actually 'justify' preventing us from vaping?? ...even the doctors and the anti smokers can see it has to be better than smoking tobacco. The FDA are trying to use distorted truth and grasping at straws with the 'not properly tested' and 'flavours to attract children' lines. They are in danger of digging themselves into a big hole trying to prove it's about health and not money.
The UK government keeps raising taxes on fuel 'to save the environment' ...then gives the go ahead for more airport runways!! ..hahahaha and still stupid people believe they are increasing the taxes to save the environment.
They have taken the demonization of tobacco smoking too far now and are in danger of loosing the cash-cow of smoking taxation, that's why they will probably do everything they can to prevent us from vaping, they have known that most of us simply cannot stop smoking and have no alternative but now we do!! and unfortunately for them they have a very big problem in how they can actually 'justify' preventing us from vaping?? ...even the doctors and the anti smokers can see it has to be better than smoking tobacco. The FDA are trying to use distorted truth and grasping at straws with the 'not properly tested' and 'flavours to attract children' lines. They are in danger of digging themselves into a big hole trying to prove it's about health and not money.
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"And if they Nanny tax us into eating what they want, and drinking what they want, how long before we see a tax on saying [Word Censored. Please insert your debt card to pay $2 Obcenity Tax to view]"
The Demolition Man had a similiar scenario.
The Demolition Man had a similiar scenario.
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Let's USE that movie as an example. In that society, anything not good for you was deemed bad. Anything deemed bad for you was deemed illegal.
Banned was:
Spicy Foods
Meat
alcohol
violence
weapons
obscene language
sex
drugs
sweets
toilet paper
kissing
touching
smoking
And what did it create? A state devoid of originality. People still longed for the old days, where they listened to commercials of things like hot dogs and liked it. they sat around in outfits that all looked the same. They ate what they were told, listened to what they were told, and thought what they were told.
Any that did not agree with this had to live in squallor in the sewers, maybe starve to death, and retain their freedom. That is what happens when the state decides what is good or bad for us. Someone holds all to an impossible yardstick, and eventually it all falls apart.
Banned was:
Spicy Foods
Meat
alcohol
violence
weapons
obscene language
sex
drugs
sweets
toilet paper
kissing
touching
smoking
And what did it create? A state devoid of originality. People still longed for the old days, where they listened to commercials of things like hot dogs and liked it. they sat around in outfits that all looked the same. They ate what they were told, listened to what they were told, and thought what they were told.
Any that did not agree with this had to live in squallor in the sewers, maybe starve to death, and retain their freedom. That is what happens when the state decides what is good or bad for us. Someone holds all to an impossible yardstick, and eventually it all falls apart.
The whole point is that at the end of the day none of it is 'really' about preventing you from doing anything....it's all about finding good 'excuses' to increase your taxes. You can do absolutely anything you want as long as you can afford to pay the government for doing it!! If they didn't want you to eat hamburgers they would simply ban hamburgers. The only reason they don't legalize and tax drugs is that it would make too many people angry and yet strangely enough a society that did legalize and tax drugs would probably be far better off for doing it. It's only when they keep on raising the taxes with the excuse of trying to 'prevent' you from doing it that it all goes wrong.
Taxes effectively ban the poor people from doing what they want, while the rich are free to carry on doing it and even though drugs are 'illegal' when was the last time you saw a drugs raid on a rich persons house? Is that because none of them do drugs?
Taxes effectively ban the poor people from doing what they want, while the rich are free to carry on doing it and even though drugs are 'illegal' when was the last time you saw a drugs raid on a rich persons house? Is that because none of them do drugs?
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Wanted to add... here in Nova Scotia cigs are between 15 and 18 dollars per 25 pack. Our new NDP government actually stepped up when they raised the .... taxes and said that it would help dig us out of debt.
Also, in 2006 Nova Scotian smokers contributed over 7 million dollars to the medical system, but took out just 6 million dollars worth of treatment. The first bit of information was widely reported in the frontpage press but the last bit of information was buried on page 6.
Also, in 2006 Nova Scotian smokers contributed over 7 million dollars to the medical system, but took out just 6 million dollars worth of treatment. The first bit of information was widely reported in the frontpage press but the last bit of information was buried on page 6.
Ouch! Is a mass exodus to other parts of Canada happening? I bet there's a growing traffic in cigarettes from other provinces...
Even the supposed cost to the health system of a smokers illnesses and subsequent death is a load of lies, unfortunately we will all' die and when we do, it doesn't matter what illnesses we suffer from and eventually die of, we will all cost the health system money, it's a 'one off' cost that we will ALL incur. A non-smoker doesn't live healthily up until the day they die and cost the health system nothing. Even if you had an identical nation of non smokers their death rate would still be a 100% and their health costs pretty much identical.
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Well, if you are paying say $16 a pack there, find out how many they "say" are smokers. At $2.50 being the average price that they are sold for, at a doubled profit for these stores, you're paying $12.50 a pack in taxes.
One pack per day winds up being $4562.50 JUST IN TAXES A YEAR!
That's always been the most frustrating thing to me too BigJim. I see it, a colleague of mine sees it, when we bring it up to others, you can watch the ostrich head plunk down into the sand. Most people are too lazy to be bothered by the fact they're being corralled and don't even realize it.
Those "Nazi tactics" have been in use for 50 years (or more). They're just being used more overtly now, with no excuses, and people still don't f**cking notice it. The reason they're used: they work!
If the bans really hit, it will be all about loss of tax revenue disguised as "health concerns."
A pack generates $2.00 for my state and $1.00 for the feds.
My pack-and-half-per-day = $1,000 per year for the state and $500 per year for the US.
If e-cigs really catch on, it'll mean millions and millions in lost tax revenue.
A pack generates $2.00 for my state and $1.00 for the feds.
My pack-and-half-per-day = $1,000 per year for the state and $500 per year for the US.
If e-cigs really catch on, it'll mean millions and millions in lost tax revenue.
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