Thank you kindly for the order Amberina <3
Good call on the deeeeeep steep - you're going to thank yourself later for your patience.
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Thank you kindly for the order Amberina <3
Good call on the deeeeeep steep - you're going to thank yourself later for your patience.
Long run, short run, half run, or daily run. All are so much better than, No run at all.
Kent, I am happy to read that you and Katy are taking the necessary steps to remain viable and survive in a changing environment. I will continue to enjoy and support your product no matter in which direction this may lead.
As for Myself, I happen to enjoy the short runs as they are. For me, its much like my passions for wine in that it is the thrill of the hunt and never knowing what may pop up next. If I happen to come across a flavor that is not particularly for me, that's fine too as I know there will be others coming down the pike. Also like with wine, what's here today can be quickly gone tomorrow.
As far as pricing goes, I am willing to pay for what I like. If it happens to cost a few dollars more, so be it. In wines just as in juices or other passions, sure, cheaper versions can be found and some are quite good or maybe even close to the same or sometimes even better but, if you want the best, you have to either be willing to pay the price or limit your choices.
I for one, am a very happy Nicoticket customer and even more, proud to be part of the Nicoticket family!
As with the first rule of Italian driving where one jumps into the car, rips the review mirror off the windshield and while tossing it out the window proclaims," Whatsa behinda me is a no importante", its time to move forward, onward and upward and what ever you do, make sure you enjoy the ride!...............
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I don't like the sound of this one bit, but you gotta eat. Last time I heard something like this, big tobacco was coming in to Johnson Creek and Blu.
I would like to say the great things about the SR are, if it doesn't interest you, there is no obligation to buy. Heck there is never an obligation to buy. I myself have skipped some short runs and that's because they either didn't interest me, or they were not in my budget.
The main thing is the staple items aren't going anywhere and that's what's important to me, as those are the ones keeping me from going back to smoking and what brings us all to Nicoticket, not the short runs... the short runs are fun and allow for a change of pace and that's a good thing, so that you don't get burned out on your staple juices.
Clarks doing everything he can to be ready to continue serving us when the govment does its crack down. I have faith that he is captaining the ship in the right direction toward that future that is not so far away.
Just remember short runs are fun runs, and we are not obligated to buy....if you have 2 staple items, like I pretty much do..ie CLS/CB (50ml Bottles) then if I had a 15ml short run item, that will put me over the $50 and I get free shipping. So in that regard, your bottle didn't really cost that much extra as it covers the shipping that you would have to pay if you only ordered the 2 bottles.
Example: 1x50ml CLS + 1x50ml CB with shipping is $47.02 (previous order)...now that same order but including a SR(BP) 15ml = $55.97. That's $8.95 more...so that 15ml SR bottle cost .96 more than if you ordered a regular 15ml bottle..
You might say but wait...staple items in that same quantity comes out to $51.97 and gets free shipping...that's $4 less than your example, and you would be right on that.
I respond that if you have ordered before and are getting staple items on reorder, are you really only going to get that same great tasting bottle in a 15 again? Maybe, as I cant answer that for everyone (budget constraints), but if that staple items is a fav, your gonna find a way to get a bigger bottle.
But really at the end of the day, Clark is throwing out short runs of flavors for us to have the opportunity to try his mastery of mixing and heck if its a success, gives it a chance at making the permanent lineup.
Just remember that there is nobody saying that a SR item should be bought
I should add that I have felt like I should buy all the SR's and have come close to buying some, but at the end of the day I decided I could do without and happily continued to vape my staple flavs....and Clark is just as happy with that...well he hasn't sent me any snots instead of zotz lol
Be happy, be at peace, be free and chose to play the SR train or like me just take a short ride here an there, where it fits right and would be something that interesting to you.
The main thing is the staple items aren't going anywhere and that's what's important to me, as those are the ones keeping me from going back to smoking and what brings us all to Nicoticket, not the short runs... the short runs are fun and allow for a change of pace and that's a good thing, so that you don't get burned out on your staple juices.
Clarks doing everything he can to be ready to continue serving us when the govment does its crack down. I have faith that he is captaining the ship in the right direction toward that future that is not so far away.
Just remember short runs are fun runs, and we are not obligated to buy....if you have 2 staple items, like I pretty much do..ie CLS/CB (50ml Bottles) then if I had a 15ml short run item, that will put me over the $50 and I get free shipping. So in that regard, your bottle didn't really cost that much extra as it covers the shipping that you would have to pay if you only ordered the 2 bottles.
Example: 1x50ml CLS + 1x50ml CB with shipping is $47.02 (previous order)...now that same order but including a SR(BP) 15ml = $55.97. That's $8.95 more...so that 15ml SR bottle cost .96 more than if you ordered a regular 15ml bottle..
You might say but wait...staple items in that same quantity comes out to $51.97 and gets free shipping...that's $4 less than your example, and you would be right on that.
I respond that if you have ordered before and are getting staple items on reorder, are you really only going to get that same great tasting bottle in a 15 again? Maybe, as I cant answer that for everyone (budget constraints), but if that staple items is a fav, your gonna find a way to get a bigger bottle.
But really at the end of the day, Clark is throwing out short runs of flavors for us to have the opportunity to try his mastery of mixing and heck if its a success, gives it a chance at making the permanent lineup.
Just remember that there is nobody saying that a SR item should be bought
I should add that I have felt like I should buy all the SR's and have come close to buying some, but at the end of the day I decided I could do without and happily continued to vape my staple flavs....and Clark is just as happy with that...well he hasn't sent me any snots instead of zotz lol
Be happy, be at peace, be free and chose to play the SR train or like me just take a short ride here an there, where it fits right and would be something that interesting to you.
I understand where Clark is coming from where prices are concerned but those prices make it hard for everyone to enjoy the SR flavors. I for one haven't been able to get any of them because I already have a hard time keeping up with my stock of my adv's. I was one of the people whom suggested butterscotch and wasn't even able to grab any. But oh well, that's the way it goes. As long as the staple flavor prices stay close to where they are then I will be happy.
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I will stand behind what I said in a conversation 7-8months ago when old TA was scarce and new TA was not. Clark was upfront and told us if we wanted it it he would buy it but it would cost more. I said I would easily pay a premium for NT liquids, especially for H1N1 or what became The Virus with the new TA.
Not all NT liquids have been in my wheelhouse but all were good quality liquids and all very vapable, I just cannot seem to vape fruits any longer. Raz cup was pretty smooth and I am looking forward to the steep results but it could have easily slotted into my daily carry right out of the mailbox.
I still have my 50 of Be Mine that has never been opened.
Heck, I have enough NT on hand to last me 1 1/2 yrs.
The short runs are fun but I am kinda glad to see that from a NT perspective that they cannot continue forever so if the flavor sounds good to me then I will continue to buy a 50 and a 15 of the short runs. 50 to steep and 15 to put in the air.
Bottom line is that NT is the ONLY liquid vendor that I can order from and KNOW that it will be a full flavored, high quality and well engineered liquid that I can vape, no questions asked. That is worth a premium to me.
Not so sure I would have made it to 300+ days analog free if it weren't for H1N1.
Not all NT liquids have been in my wheelhouse but all were good quality liquids and all very vapable, I just cannot seem to vape fruits any longer. Raz cup was pretty smooth and I am looking forward to the steep results but it could have easily slotted into my daily carry right out of the mailbox.
I still have my 50 of Be Mine that has never been opened.
Heck, I have enough NT on hand to last me 1 1/2 yrs.
The short runs are fun but I am kinda glad to see that from a NT perspective that they cannot continue forever so if the flavor sounds good to me then I will continue to buy a 50 and a 15 of the short runs. 50 to steep and 15 to put in the air.
Bottom line is that NT is the ONLY liquid vendor that I can order from and KNOW that it will be a full flavored, high quality and well engineered liquid that I can vape, no questions asked. That is worth a premium to me.
Not so sure I would have made it to 300+ days analog free if it weren't for H1N1.
Long run, short run, half run, or daily run. All are so much better than, No run at all.
Kent, I am happy to read that you and Katy are taking the necessary steps to remain viable and survive in a changing environment. I will continue to enjoy and support your product no matter in which direction this may lead.
As for Myself, I happen to enjoy the short runs as they are. For me, its much like my passions for wine in that it is the thrill of the hunt and never knowing what may pop up next. If I happen to come across a flavor that is not particularly for me, that's fine too as I know there will be others coming down the pike. Also like with wine, what's here today can be quickly gone tomorrow.
As far as pricing goes, I am willing to pay for what I like. If it happens to cost a few dollars more, so be it. In wines just as in juices or other passions, sure, cheaper versions can be found and some are quite good or maybe even close to the same or sometimes even better but, if you want the best, you have to either be willing to pay the price or limit your choices.
I for one, am a very happy Nicoticket customer and even more, proud to be part of the Nicoticket family!
As with the first rule of Italian driving where one jumps into the car, rips the review mirror off the windshield and while tossing it out the window proclaims," Whatsa behinda me is a no importante", its time to move forward, onward and upward and what ever you do, make sure you enjoy the ride!...............
Thank you for the vote of confidence - but honestly - when we price specific offerings, we don't do it without significant thought and deliberation. I am chomping at the bit to share what I can see from my vantage point, but... ya'all just gotta trust a brother. I'm not out to gouge people or turn a quick buck, I am in this thing for the long haul. We have no choice but to transition from a "lean and mean, slingin' juice and shooting from the hip" into some more strategic investments that require capital to execute. I need the family's help/support/guidance now more than ever - and I am especially appreciative that CorallineAlgae feels secure enough in this environment to voice concerns and know they will be heard, and considered. I do listen - I just wish I could share the justification for the decision - I just can't (right now).
No justification needed! I was by no means complaining. Nicoticket would still be in my stable even if you had to double the price!
To me, its that good and I honor your openness even in the face of criticism......
To me, its that good and I honor your openness even in the face of criticism......
I really do appreciate that I can be critical of a couple things about a company that I truly adore.. and not be seen as a hater. Criticism can come from a lot of directions. Mine was specific about only a couple of issues that directly affect customer perception about product value. Most company owners would never even respond, and while you haven't directly responded to every concern you still explained that their is a situation behind this frenzy of releases and price hikes. I'm sure it will all make sense before long. Vape on brother!
To me, its that good and I honor your openness even in the face of criticism......
^this 100% Very well said blotto!
I really do appreciate that I can be critical of a couple things about a company that I truly adore.. and not be seen as a hater. Criticism can come from a lot of directions. Mine was specific about only a couple of issues that directly affect customer perception about product value. Most company owners would never even respond, and while you haven't directly responded to every concern you still explained that their is a situation behind this frenzy of releases and price hikes. I'm sure it will all make sense before long. Vape on brother!
^this 100% Very well said blotto!
Nah man - I know your heart is in the right place - and I need people around that are willing to give me perspectives from every side - good, bad, or indifferent. Candor is a lost commodity - it's easy to take accolades, much more difficult to accept constructive criticism. It's you folks we're working for... not the other way around - and we take our value proposition seriously. We're worth $1/ml, but we're never going to charge that* (pre-tax) LOL- wait until Chris Christy gets his way in New Jersey...
I'm fortunate to have people around that keep me assessed of perceptions- but with regard to this release - it's definitely NOT ready to vape in MY humble opinion - but Katy says "you know where it lands, and I like it fresh... there's no amount of delay that's going to make it steep faster - you might as well release it with the * that it could be a deep steep for some (vape snobs like me). That said, I think about how much I enjoyed PBC fresh, and I would have been ....-hurt if I had been on the other side of the table and not had the opportunity to experience the evolution - the transition - because it's really a great vape fresh... it's just more Laffe Taffee than I like, personally. Katy eats it up, and she's confident many of you will, also. There may even be a minority that like it better fresh, stranger things have happened.
I ordered my banana pudding along with several others to get my regulars. I appreciate what is said about price but I for one will pay what Clark needs to charge for juices that I love. Especially considering the dangerous business environment he is working in. Others may be charging less but they may not be evaluating the long term when doing so.
Order #16423. I can't pass up a banana vape!
As far as prices and SR flavors... i personally am sorry to hear that it's not sustainable. As my, at this point nearly countless orders this month alone, clearly show.
I am more than willing to pay the higher prices for the better quality vape and the outstanding service and communication on the regular.
Clark, gotta do what you gotta do to survive. Regardless, I can say that I love the active role you take and how you listen to others in the NicoTicket family (yes, that's what I'm calling it). I am a huge fan and will continue to support NT regular.
Keep up the outstanding work! My taste buds thank you, though my credit card is quite angry with my lack of will power.
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As far as prices and SR flavors... i personally am sorry to hear that it's not sustainable. As my, at this point nearly countless orders this month alone, clearly show.
I am more than willing to pay the higher prices for the better quality vape and the outstanding service and communication on the regular.
Clark, gotta do what you gotta do to survive. Regardless, I can say that I love the active role you take and how you listen to others in the NicoTicket family (yes, that's what I'm calling it). I am a huge fan and will continue to support NT regular.
Keep up the outstanding work! My taste buds thank you, though my credit card is quite angry with my lack of will power.
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I need you all to quit having such interesting conversations while I'm watching from my phone.....erm...working I mean.
Personally I love the SRs... I was a twinge sad when I found my favorite liquid provider because I thought it meant my days of ripping into those packages and trying new and unknown flavors was primarily over. Didn't want to end up wasting money on junk with an unknown, in the search for something amazing (bird in the hand and all that). But wait....there's more!! I can try something new every week AND feel confident I won't end up with something disgusting!
But I do get the other side of the coin too. Luckily, I'm still spending my tax refund money...while I logically understand it was always my money, it's currently giving me much pleasure to spend, what was at least momentarily the governments money, to stock up....when it runs out, back on a budget I go though. And, I do love pre-steeped yummy goodness...but whatcha gonna do? I loved Radioactive fresh...who knows.
This (and the ones that followed) are very very interesting....hmmmmm...
Good Luck!
Here's hoping we all get to enjoy the vape we like for as long as we choose.
PS...you ALL better vote for GCD!!!
Personally I love the SRs... I was a twinge sad when I found my favorite liquid provider because I thought it meant my days of ripping into those packages and trying new and unknown flavors was primarily over. Didn't want to end up wasting money on junk with an unknown, in the search for something amazing (bird in the hand and all that). But wait....there's more!! I can try something new every week AND feel confident I won't end up with something disgusting!
But I do get the other side of the coin too. Luckily, I'm still spending my tax refund money...while I logically understand it was always my money, it's currently giving me much pleasure to spend, what was at least momentarily the governments money, to stock up....when it runs out, back on a budget I go though. And, I do love pre-steeped yummy goodness...but whatcha gonna do? I loved Radioactive fresh...who knows.
This (and the ones that followed) are very very interesting....hmmmmm...
Good Luck!
Here's hoping we all get to enjoy the vape we like for as long as we choose.
PS...you ALL better vote for GCD!!!
I KNEW IT! Stupid NSA always spying on us! WE NEED TO TAKE BACK THE GOVERMENT NOW!!!!!!!
My order is in! I know I joke around about my credit card needing a rest, but I'm just joking! I have really enjoy the SR opportunities. I think I have gotten small amounts of everything except the Butterscotch. I have also enjoyed everything I have ever gotten from Nicoticket and I don't mind at all paying a little more for the SRs because I know I am always getting quality juice! I say better to have had some great juices and them be gone forever, than to never have had them at all. Well maybe not my favorite Be Mine, because I really love it! Thanks Clark for giving us the opportunity. You will always be my #1 go to! I love your juice creations and I love how you reach out and care for everyone who becomes a Nicoticket family member! You and your staff are a prime example of all that is right in the vaping world. Just want to say how much you are truly appreciated.
Bittersweet words - it looks like NT' as we know it will be morphing like it's flagship liquid the Virus. And like the Virus, I'm sure it's going to end up in a good place. I'm actually looking forward to how we meet the challenges to come. As you and I know, change does not cause us pain. It is our resistance to it that does. . .
Clark, sorry for creating this thread, and please lock/delete/edit as you see fit, but I feel like there are too many good and useful threads being derailed by comments about pricing. I don't think any of the comments themselves are bad or malicious, but I feel they are off topic from the original point of each thread, for the most part, and leaves me not being able to find the relevant posts that I'm interested in. So I thought that if people wanted to continue a discussion about their opinions on pricing, it might be deserving of its own thread. I think everyone in the NT forum has proven to be mature enough to maintain civility on such a sensitive subject, but this is the internet so you never know, but at least it will be easier to moderate in one place.
I hope this thread doesn't offend anyone who has posted about pricing (I'm included), but maybe this will make it easier to discuss.
My thoughts are that Clark just doesn't have a choice but to raise prices. He has shown that he's not just in it for the fast money time and time again (free this, upgrade that, half of every day spent interacting with customers) so if and when prices go up, I know there is a necessity for the change. We know that regulation is inevitable. This will undoubtedly mean that prices will go up for EVERY SINGLE VENDOR. If a vendor doesn't appear to adapt to the regulatory changes through their pricing, then I would be highly suspect of where they are cutting costs to do so. Nobody likes to pay more for anything -- I think we all agree on that. But when you think about it, the person paying the most is Nicoticket. We have to pay a few more dollars to vape our favorite eliquid. Clark will have to pay much more just to make sure NT exists to support our smokeless journey. Clark posted in a different thread that he'll never charge $1/mL, but I honestly doubt that because there is too much money being made on tabacco taxes for the government not to see an opportunity to cash in on vaping, as well. So my reality is that a year from now, we'll be remembering the good ol days when Banana Pudding was only $11.99 for a 15ml bottle.
I generally wouldn't publicly approve of price increases, even if they are for legitimate reasons, but I've actually witnessed too many online vape vendors close up shop already because they aren't stable enough to fight or they aren't interested in the risk. If Clark is ready to enter into the unknown, then I'll be happy to support him as long as his company values remain true or until I just want to stop supporting him for whatever reason.
Anyway, I hope the threads will be easier to follow soon.
I hope this thread doesn't offend anyone who has posted about pricing (I'm included), but maybe this will make it easier to discuss.
My thoughts are that Clark just doesn't have a choice but to raise prices. He has shown that he's not just in it for the fast money time and time again (free this, upgrade that, half of every day spent interacting with customers) so if and when prices go up, I know there is a necessity for the change. We know that regulation is inevitable. This will undoubtedly mean that prices will go up for EVERY SINGLE VENDOR. If a vendor doesn't appear to adapt to the regulatory changes through their pricing, then I would be highly suspect of where they are cutting costs to do so. Nobody likes to pay more for anything -- I think we all agree on that. But when you think about it, the person paying the most is Nicoticket. We have to pay a few more dollars to vape our favorite eliquid. Clark will have to pay much more just to make sure NT exists to support our smokeless journey. Clark posted in a different thread that he'll never charge $1/mL, but I honestly doubt that because there is too much money being made on tabacco taxes for the government not to see an opportunity to cash in on vaping, as well. So my reality is that a year from now, we'll be remembering the good ol days when Banana Pudding was only $11.99 for a 15ml bottle.
I generally wouldn't publicly approve of price increases, even if they are for legitimate reasons, but I've actually witnessed too many online vape vendors close up shop already because they aren't stable enough to fight or they aren't interested in the risk. If Clark is ready to enter into the unknown, then I'll be happy to support him as long as his company values remain true or until I just want to stop supporting him for whatever reason.
Anyway, I hope the threads will be easier to follow soon.
I want to start off by saying that I've NEVER been or understood fanboy's and girls! I have both Apple and Android and they both do something well and I'm sure the same can be said about Provari and Reo's! And then I tried Nicoticket's juices.....
Call me a "fangirl", "infected", whatever I'm a Nico-FAN-atic!
I also want to proudly say that I went through 4 or 5 pages to get through the end while showing MUCH restraint in hitting the reply button and in order to "simmer down some" and ensure I didn't miss something that would cause me to regret a "knee jerk" and rash response. I guess get getting older does have a few perks! I was feeling much better after reading distorto and dabuc's posts and could have liked those a few others more times if I could have!
Since honesty is valued I'd like to give my "honest" opinions despite attempting to be "diplomatic" as well. So here goes.
It seems to me that some people seem to either forgotten or don't realize that e-liquids are a LUXORY item! As I'm reading through some of these posts I'm thinking of and wondering about how many soda's at over a $1 a pop these people purchase in a week, how many times did they hit the drive through or how many "extra's" were thrown into the cart....sure there's going to be some customers who are on a tight budget, perhaps they're in college or on a fixed income BUT...how's that Nicoticket's or Clark's fault??
I'm sorry but to me it just seems like "whining" or complaining, but then again there's A LOT of that in these more recent generations! In my short experience with Nicoticket EVERYTHING that I've ordered has been AMAZING, and I've ordered roughly 7 or 8 juices at least so far in around 2 months. I've put MULTIPLE as in 2 or 3 orders in one week and even made a joke about it and I've also plugged the heck out of Nicoticket during the same time frame. WHY? For the reasons you already know and some you don't seem to get. Nicoticket is most assuredly worth MORE than what they charge, their juice is TRULY premium and not just a word included on a bottle in a vapid attempt to draw customers in! It's actually messed up that so many sub par e-liquid manufactures include the name "premium" or "high quality" and this thread testifies to that. Nicoticket if ANYTHING is underrated in the e-juice world and is a class of it's own!
The customer service as NT is second to none AND I have to say that I'm a pretty disappointed that out of at least 5 pages since the price issue with SR's came up NOT ONE person made mention of the FREQUENT and GENEROUS upgrades Clark gives out! Due to that fact alone I don't see how people can dispute the price when it's already sold at a lower price point then it should or could be! Haven't you heard of the phrase "The market bears what the market can handle?" , or even know what that means?
I believe whole heartedly from what I've seen and experienced that if NT was to increase ALL of their prices to what they're charging for BP, that they'd still keep the majority of their customers AND continue to bring in a steady supply of NEW customers as well! Sure, there's other really good and decent juice vendors out there, I happen to regularly order a FEW (emphasis on few), other juices from different vendors. I've tried Five Pawns, Long Beach Juice Supply, Alpha, The Standard and more of the "top" and "premium" juice suppliers and will probably continue to try new vendors/juices along the way. That being said NONE of them have hit the mark on ALL of the points that make something truly exceptional rise to be a cut above the rest!
If someone else is selling juice just as good as YOU think it is for much cheap than your silly if you DON'T buy it or think it would hurt Clark or Nicoticket's feelings. I happen to think another vendor makes a better "snickerdoodle" vape and I just put in a BIG order for more of it and plan to regularly do so! I think Nicoticket's found a way to read minds because I've been vaping on this absolutely DELISH apricot blend from Vape Potion and wondering what NT's was like, and I would have NEVER thought I would like an APRICOT vape!
I realize what's better to me verses you though are quite possibly two different things! I mean look at the difference in Katy and Clark's opinions! Heck I'm leaning more towards her thinking after what I just experienced with PBC and even moved it up to my current #1 vape! Some people are putting their disappointment out there over a juice not being pre-steeped enough when they haven't even TRIED it yet! Sheesh, they make and offer EXCELLENT juices for relatively cheap, with AWESOME customer service, regular free upgrades, social interactions and camaraderie, a variety of EXTRA and exclusive juices on a short term basis for trial and fun, steep most of their juices and you even acknowledge ALL of this yet still complain! You want them to vape it too! What did your tobacco company of choice or the store you bought them at offer you?? Yet again I'll say NOBODY'S twisting your arm and forcing you to buy these NON necessity items aka luxury or "premiums"!
I'll close with saying that Kent's a better "person" then me and perhaps it's the therapist in him, but again his response is just testimony to the kind of person he is and I wouldn't have faulted him none if he would have responded differently or not responded at all. Do people not realize or consider the upcoming regs and what that means to these "mom and pop" juice makers or even smaller scaled professional ones like Nicoticket? I'll do whatever I can to help support Nicoticket to ensure that it stays the course and makes it through all the MANY and COSTLY hurdles I'm sure there will be!
If anyone in the NT family truly wants to try a SR and has a valid reason for not being able to purchase any, (I won't ask, it will be on your honor!), PM me and if I can get you at least a sample of it I will!
I apologize for the longer post, those of you that have read mine know I ramble a bit, but in my HUMBLE opinion at least some of this NEEDED to be said! Vape on and long live Nicoticket! Tell Katy I can't WAIT the drip it right when it get's here! A woman usually has better taste anyways!
Call me a "fangirl", "infected", whatever I'm a Nico-FAN-atic!
I also want to proudly say that I went through 4 or 5 pages to get through the end while showing MUCH restraint in hitting the reply button and in order to "simmer down some"
and ensure I didn't miss something that would cause me to regret a "knee jerk" and rash response. I guess get getting older does have a few perks! I was feeling much better after reading distorto and dabuc's posts and could have liked those a few others more times if I could have!Since honesty is valued I'd like to give my "honest" opinions despite attempting to be "diplomatic" as well. So here goes.
It seems to me that some people seem to either forgotten or don't realize that e-liquids are a LUXORY item! As I'm reading through some of these posts I'm thinking of and wondering about how many soda's at over a $1 a pop these people purchase in a week, how many times did they hit the drive through or how many "extra's" were thrown into the cart....sure there's going to be some customers who are on a tight budget, perhaps they're in college or on a fixed income BUT...how's that Nicoticket's or Clark's fault??
I'm sorry but to me it just seems like "whining" or complaining, but then again there's A LOT of that in these more recent generations! In my short experience with Nicoticket EVERYTHING that I've ordered has been AMAZING, and I've ordered roughly 7 or 8 juices at least so far in around 2 months. I've put MULTIPLE as in 2 or 3 orders in one week and even made a joke about it and I've also plugged the heck out of Nicoticket during the same time frame. WHY? For the reasons you already know and some you don't seem to get. Nicoticket is most assuredly worth MORE than what they charge, their juice is TRULY premium and not just a word included on a bottle in a vapid attempt to draw customers in! It's actually messed up that so many sub par e-liquid manufactures include the name "premium" or "high quality" and this thread testifies to that. Nicoticket if ANYTHING is underrated in the e-juice world and is a class of it's own!
The customer service as NT is second to none AND I have to say that I'm a pretty disappointed that out of at least 5 pages since the price issue with SR's came up NOT ONE person made mention of the FREQUENT and GENEROUS upgrades Clark gives out! Due to that fact alone I don't see how people can dispute the price when it's already sold at a lower price point then it should or could be! Haven't you heard of the phrase "The market bears what the market can handle?" , or even know what that means?
I believe whole heartedly from what I've seen and experienced that if NT was to increase ALL of their prices to what they're charging for BP, that they'd still keep the majority of their customers AND continue to bring in a steady supply of NEW customers as well! Sure, there's other really good and decent juice vendors out there, I happen to regularly order a FEW (emphasis on few), other juices from different vendors. I've tried Five Pawns, Long Beach Juice Supply, Alpha, The Standard and more of the "top" and "premium" juice suppliers and will probably continue to try new vendors/juices along the way. That being said NONE of them have hit the mark on ALL of the points that make something truly exceptional rise to be a cut above the rest!
If someone else is selling juice just as good as YOU think it is for much cheap than your silly if you DON'T buy it or think it would hurt Clark or Nicoticket's feelings. I happen to think another vendor makes a better "snickerdoodle" vape and I just put in a BIG order for more of it and plan to regularly do so! I think Nicoticket's found a way to read minds because I've been vaping on this absolutely DELISH apricot blend from Vape Potion and wondering what NT's was like, and I would have NEVER thought I would like an APRICOT vape!
I realize what's better to me verses you though are quite possibly two different things! I mean look at the difference in Katy and Clark's opinions! Heck I'm leaning more towards her thinking after what I just experienced with PBC and even moved it up to my current #1 vape! Some people are putting their disappointment out there over a juice not being pre-steeped enough when they haven't even TRIED it yet! Sheesh, they make and offer EXCELLENT juices for relatively cheap, with AWESOME customer service, regular free upgrades, social interactions and camaraderie, a variety of EXTRA and exclusive juices on a short term basis for trial and fun, steep most of their juices and you even acknowledge ALL of this yet still complain! You want them to vape it too! What did your tobacco company of choice or the store you bought them at offer you?? Yet again I'll say NOBODY'S twisting your arm and forcing you to buy these NON necessity items aka luxury or "premiums"!
I'll close with saying that Kent's a better "person" then me and perhaps it's the therapist in him, but again his response is just testimony to the kind of person he is and I wouldn't have faulted him none if he would have responded differently or not responded at all. Do people not realize or consider the upcoming regs and what that means to these "mom and pop" juice makers or even smaller scaled professional ones like Nicoticket? I'll do whatever I can to help support Nicoticket to ensure that it stays the course and makes it through all the MANY and COSTLY hurdles I'm sure there will be!
If anyone in the NT family truly wants to try a SR and has a valid reason for not being able to purchase any, (I won't ask, it will be on your honor!), PM me and if I can get you at least a sample of it I will!
I apologize for the longer post, those of you that have read mine know I ramble a bit, but in my HUMBLE opinion at least some of this NEEDED to be said! Vape on and long live Nicoticket! Tell Katy I can't WAIT the drip it right when it get's here! A woman usually has better taste anyways!
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I want to start off by saying that I've NEVER been or understood fanboy's and girls! I have both Apple and Android and they both do something well and I'm sure the same can be said about Provari and Reo's! And then I tried Nicoticket's juices.....
Call me a "fangirl", "infected", whatever I'm a Nico-FAN-atic!
I also want to proudly say that I went through 4 or 5 pages to get through the end while showing MUCH restraint in hitting the reply button and in order to "simmer down some"
Since honesty is valued I'd like to give my "honest" opinions despite attempting to be "diplomatic" as well. So here goes.
It seems to me that some people seem to either forgotten or don't realize that e-liquids are a LUXORY item! As I'm reading through some of these posts I'm thinking of and wondering about how many soda's at over a $1 a pop these people purchase in a week, how many times did they hit the drive through or how many "extra's" were thrown into the cart....sure there's going to be some customers who are on a tight budget, perhaps they're in college or on a fixed income BUT...how's that Nicoticket's or Clark's fault??
I'm sorry but to me it just seems like "whining" or complaining, but then again there's A LOT of that in these more recent generations! In my short experience with Nicoticket EVERYTHING that I've ordered has been AMAZING, and I've ordered roughly 7 or 8 juices at least so far in around 2 months. I've put MULTIPLE as in 2 or 3 orders in one week and even made a joke about it and I've also plugged the heck out of Nicoticket during the same time frame. WHY? For the reasons you already know and some you don't seem to get. Nicoticket is most assuredly worth MORE than what they charge, their juice is TRULY premium and not just a word included on a bottle in a vapid attempt to draw customers in! It's actually messed up that so many sub par e-liquid manufactures include the name "premium" or "high quality" and this thread testifies to that. Nicoticket if ANYTHING is underrated in the e-juice world and is a class of it's own!
The customer service as NT is second to none AND I have to say that I'm a pretty disappointed that out of at least 5 pages since the price issue with SR's came up NOT ONE person made mention of the FREQUENT and GENEROUS upgrades Clark gives out! Due to that fact alone I don't see how people can dispute the price when it's already sold at a lower price point then it should or could be! Haven't you heard of the phrase "The market bears what the market can handle?" , or even know what that means?
I believe whole heartedly from what I've seen and experienced that if NT was to increase ALL of their prices to what they're charging for BP, that they'd still keep the majority of their customers AND continue to bring in a steady supply of NEW customers as well! Sure, there's other really good and decent juice vendors out there, I happen to regularly order a FEW (emphasis on few), other juices from different vendors. I've tried Five Pawns, Long Beach Juice Supply, Alpha, The Standard and more of the "top" and "premium" juice suppliers and will probably continue to try new vendors/juices along the way. That being said NONE of them have hit the mark on ALL of the points that make something truly exceptional rise to be a cut above the rest!
If someone else is selling juice just as good as YOU think it is for much cheap than your silly if you DON'T buy it or think it would hurt Clark or Nicoticket's feelings. I happen to think another vendor makes a better "snickerdoodle" vape and I just put in a BIG order for more of it and plan to regularly do so! I think Nicoticket's found a way to read minds because I've been vaping on this absolutely DELISH apricot blend from Vape Potion and wondering what NT's was like, and I would have NEVER thought I would like an APRICOT vape!
I realize what's better to me verses you though are quite possibly two different things! I mean look at the difference in Katy and Clark's opinions! Heck I'm leaning more towards her thinking after what I just experienced with PBC and even moved it up to my current #1 vape! Some people are putting their disappointment out there over a juice not being pre-steeped enough when they haven't even TRIED it yet! Sheesh, they make and offer EXCELLENT juices for relatively cheap, with AWESOME customer service, regular free upgrades, social interactions and camaraderie, a variety of EXTRA and exclusive juices on a short term basis for trial and fun, steep most of their juices and you even acknowledge ALL of this yet still complain! You want them to vape it too! What did your tobacco company of choice or the store you bought them at offer you?? Yet again I'll say NOBODY'S twisting your arm and forcing you to buy these NON necessity items aka luxury or "premiums"!
I'll close with saying that Kent's a better "person" then me and perhaps it's the therapist in him, but again his response is just testimony to the kind of person he is and I wouldn't have faulted him none if he would have responded differently or not responded at all. Do people not realize or consider the upcoming regs and what that means to these "mom and pop" juice makers or even smaller scaled professional ones like Nicoticket? I'll do whatever I can to help support Nicoticket to ensure that it stays the course and makes it through all the MANY and COSTLY hurdles I'm sure there will be!
If anyone in the NT family truly wants to try a SR and has a valid reason for not being able to purchase any, (I won't ask, it will be on your honor!), PM me and if I can get you at least a sample of it I will!
I apologize for the longer post, those of you that have read mine know I ramble a bit, but in my HUMBLE opinion at least some of this NEEDED to be said! Vape on and long live Nicoticket! Tell Katy I can't WAIT the drip it right when it get's here! A woman usually has better taste anyways!
I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised with the opportunity that awaits and will appreciate the work we are doing to position ourselves for the long term.
I haven't ordered this one because banana is not my thing. Reading through this thread, though, I just have to add a thought for those of you who are upset with the price increase on short runs. When I first started vaping, I wasted literally hundreds of dollars on juice that was really horrible. So now, I am thrilled to have found a vendor that I feel confident about buying from, knowing that to date, I have not made a purchase I didn't like. Like many of you, I have to be careful about how I spend my money, so if I can't afford it, I don't order it...but I am happy to pay a few dollars more for something I know won't disappoint.
Also remember that if you buy something from NT that you don't like, there will never be a shortage of people willing to buy it off the classifieds once the flavor is gone from the website.
Also remember that if you buy something from NT that you don't like, there will never be a shortage of people willing to buy it off the classifieds once the flavor is gone from the website.
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