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catmomma

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You need not be worried at all if you are willing to stake out a high quality vape shop in your area and say "Hey, you'd be a damn fool if you didn't take this card, call this guy, and get his line-up" (High Quality being the operative word - but in the absence of competition, convenient will do, also)

I would do this tomorrow!! And bring several devices so they could taste the juice!
 

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I've stayed clear of this whole pricing debate because it is what it is. But, if you're going to transition to B&M shops then I'm positive you'll have to start using glass bottles with better packaging. As we all know, a package that is visually appealing is what sells the brand, and the way Nicoticket packages right now isn't all that appealing, despite the superior juice that is inside. But I've already heard that glass is on the way. Regardless, I will continue to buy Nicoticket juices as long as they are around to be had. I love em!

I have to say that jblindy is probably right about this. I personally much prefer the current NT squeeze bottles with the long tip over every other kind of bottle out there. I think glass bottles are a mess to use by comparison. But packaging "appearance" is vital in a retail situation. Perhaps simply switching to a more attractive label on the current bottles would be a first step, although personally I love the simplicity of the labels we're getting now. I'll take function over presentation every time but many new customers are all about the shiny.

Whenever I show off my juice collection to a friend they always reach for the ones I have in glass bottles with beautifully designed labels. A few vendors offer both options with glass bottles being a little pricier. That could be a way to test the demand, especially in the B&M shops that carry Nicoticket. Call it market research.
 

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That's going to be pretty difficult for those of us who don't have high quality vape shops close enough to drive to without having to find someone to drive them :( Cripes there aren't any vape shops within my driving range, except one being run out of a house in the really really bad part of town.

You need not be worried at all if you are willing to stake out a high quality vape shop in your area and say "Hey, you'd be a damn fool if you didn't take this card, call this guy, and get his line-up" (High Quality being the operative word - but in the absence of competition, convenient will do, also)
 

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I really dislike the glass bottles, I have yet to find one that doesn't leak when you shake it at some point. I agree they're pretty and all, but I'd rather not have to wrap the bottle in a tissue to shake it and then clean up whatever juice I just wasted in the process. :(

I've stayed clear of this whole pricing debate because it is what it is. But, if you're going to transition to B&M shops then I'm positive you'll have to start using glass bottles with better packaging. As we all know, a package that is visually appealing is what sells the brand, and the way Nicoticket packages right now isn't all that appealing, despite the superior juice that is inside. But I've already heard that glass is on the way. Regardless, I will continue to buy Nicoticket juices as long as they are around to be had. I love em!

That said, I need more business cards.





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I really dislike the glass bottles, I have yet to find one that doesn't leak when you shake it at some point. I agree they're pretty and all, but I'd rather not have to wrap the bottle in a tissue to shake it and then clean up whatever juice I just wasted in the process. :(

Agreed! Even with a good quality dripper top I hate glass. NT is my favorite bottle of all, the needle tip lets me fill my Kraken, Taifun, Kayfun, Russian without having to jump through hoops, AND I don't get a cramp from having to squeeze too hard. As far as a bottle for the B&M market, it depends on what you want to convey. NT's bottles, at least to the regulars are iconic. We take pics of them and post them, I'm not sure I see anyone else doing this with other vendors. So it's a tough call.
 

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If I like the liquid I will buy it regardless of price and unless Clark goes completely insane with his pricing (although he is already a little touched overall not even talking about pricing). None of us know or understand how much of his time and energy go into making flavors that we all dig.

It's not like he is charging us $22 for mothers milk (which isn't that great). If you enjoy it buy it, if you can afford it buy it, if money is tight hold off.

I'm a big fan of the plastic bottles too but if you go to glass I won't give up the juice..... I have been infected.
 

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That's going to be pretty difficult for those of us who don't have high quality vape shops close enough to drive to without having to find someone to drive them :( Cripes there aren't any vape shops within my driving range, except one being run out of a house in the really really bad part of town.

Same here. There aren't any vape shops in the nearby surrounding towns. I've never seen a vape shop. I do believe that if online eliquid sales gets banned, more and more vape shops will open and even some tobacco shops will start to carry better quality eliquid and vape supplies. If the FDA stops online sales there should still be some access. For people like you and me, who don't live near anything selling the stuff, it'll probably be a major headache. I just hope some option will open.

Right now is the best time to ever be a vapor. The grinding halt is coming but it will be followed by backlash. It may take ages but if and when vaping proves its health benefits scientifically, the market should start to enter a big competition phase. What's giving many larger companies pause from marketing e-cigs more aggressively is mostly the lack of long term health studies. What's stopping so many politicians from supporting the current free market is payola. Once they get their mob cut many politicians will slowly change their tune.

Prices are just gonna suck.
 

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That's going to be pretty difficult for those of us who don't have high quality vape shops close enough to drive to without having to find someone to drive them :( Cripes there aren't any vape shops within my driving range, except one being run out of a house in the really really bad part of town.

I cannot stress enough how this entire conversation related to transitioning to B&M is depressing the hell out of me. Hearing this may not happen for another 2 years does not provide me an ounce of comfort.

I cannot speak for others but I don't have the luxury of promoting any vendors juice outside my own home & the few B&M's I've been to are not going to carry Nicoticket. They're quite happy to have an employee mixing up juices in the back room.

It's different when you have exclusive vape shops vs stores that just so happen to sell vape related items.

It took me months & a LOT of money to find my way to Nicoticket & I have this sinking feeling I'll have to start my search for good tasty quality juices all over again.

Many of you may see this as not being loyal--I really don't care. Spending my money on what works for me has nothing to do with loyalty to one particular vendor; a word btw I feel gets thrown around quite loosely anyway.
I have to look out for me & the last thing I want to do is go back to smoking cigarettes. So yeah....my shopping will continue online.

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I cannot stress enough how this entire conversation related to transitioning to B&M is depressing the hell out of me. Hearing this may not happen for another 2 years does not provide me an ounce of comfort.

I cannot speak for others but I don't have the luxury of promoting any vendors juice outside my own home & the few B&M's I've been to are not going to carry Nicoticket. They're quite happy to have an employee mixing up juices in the back room.

It's different when you have exclusive vape shops vs stores that just so happen to sell vape related items.

It took me months & a LOT of money to find my way to Nicoticket & I have this sinking feeling I'll have to start my search for good tasty quality juices all over again.

Many of you may see this as not being loyal--I really don't care. Spending my money on what works for me has nothing to do with loyalty to one particular vendor; a word btw I feel gets thrown around quite loosely anyway.
I have to look out for me & the last thing I want to do is go back to smoking cigarettes. So yeah....my shopping will continue online.

No, the point is those vape shops that are mixing their own ejuice won't be able to mix their own stuff at all after these regulations fall. They will have to buy approved eliquids from distributors. That's how Uncle Sam will ensure they get their cut. Nobody will be able to just make their own mixes freely. Each liquid will need to be approved for sale and it may cost millions to do that. These vape shops will be scrambling to find legal eliquids to stock their shelves. That's the plan that Clark seems to be working towards. He wants to be one of the few companies who will be able to legally distribute his products right out of the gate. At least, that's my understanding so far.
 

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I'm starting to see myself inside the movie Back to the Future III where I look like Biff in the jogging outfit and I go into a gas station and get my vial of Nicoticket, and I tell the attendant how much easier it was when I got the stuff mailed to me.

US government... taking away liberty from 318,892,103 citizens at a time. :(


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as I sit here vaping on my Frenilla and reading all of this, all I can think of right now is that I will continue to buy from Nicoticket for as long as I can... as often as I can.

I love the juice... I love the service. I love that if I send an email, I get a response back. I love that sometimes I get something more than I actually ordered. I love that when I was told that Nicoticket would let me know about some things, they let me know about those things...

My business has been earned.

And... if things end up as they might, with all internet ordering and shipping stopped due to those absolute idiots we keep electing time and time again, Nicoticket would be the ONE vendor that I would drive out of state for to purchase their products...

You guys ROCK...
 

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Clark, please tell me some of my shilling has paid off.

Off the top of your head have you noticed any orders to cMR 422 APO 09067 or Unit 38848 APO 09848?

I'm gonna make an effort to get out into the general forum and show off my Nicoticket signature.

Jah - we get a TON of orders from APO addys - we're really blessed in that regard!~ Thank you for sharing the love with your brothers and sisters in arms my friend!~
 
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