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Carto tanks have been all the rage for the last couple of months. smok Tech jumps in with an affordable product. There's at least one announcement in the forum supplier section predicting availability around Nov 5 - and one vendor with some inventory already and 12 bucks is hard to beat for a dual coil carto tank

I think the price tag is the real news on that. - The home made tank thread is an interesting price comparison where the OP says they spent 13 bucks to build their own fluxo tank. I've seen a few other threads where someone spent anywhere from 3 to 15 bucks to build something like that... so 12 bucks is a pretty good price point when it could cost someone more to make their own.

I hate to see some of the innovators of these devices lose their income stream by having to compete with companies who can mass produce for a lot less money, but I also appreciate that some of the companies with such resources are actually paying attention to what customers want - and I don't really mind saving a substantial amount of money when purchasing things like that, either.
 

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Carto tanks have been all the rage for the last couple of months. Smok Tech jumps in with an affordable product. There's at least one announcement in the forum supplier section predicting availability around Nov 5 - and one vendor with some inventory already and 12 bucks is hard to beat for a dual coil carto tank

I think the price tag is the real news on that. - The home made tank thread is an interesting price comparison where the OP says they spent 13 bucks to build their own fluxo tank. I've seen a few other threads where someone spent anywhere from 3 to 15 bucks to build something like that... so 12 bucks is a pretty good price point when it could cost someone more to make their own.

I hate to see some of the innovators of these devices lose their income stream by having to compete with companies who can mass produce for a lot less money, but I also appreciate that some of the companies with such resources are actually paying attention to what customers want - and I don't really mind saving a substantial amount of money when purchasing things like that, either.
I'm not positive but I dont think smoketech made the tank. I'm pretty sure that is something that the vendor , madvapes, made themselves. Its still great but I believe its a case of the vendor listening to customer demand not the manufacturer.
 

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I'm not positive but I dont think smoketech made the tank. I'm pretty sure that is something that the vendor , madvapes, made themselves.

Well, one of the threads I saw an announcement in in the forum suppliers section has some pictures. Madvapes has a pretty close relationship with Smoke Tech.. Have a look at the pictures here. The flange on the bottom is really similar if not identical.

I guess it will end up depending on the price of the cartos because they do look to be different
 
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Well, one of the threads I saw an announcement in in the forum suppliers section has some pictures. Madvapes has a pretty close relationship with Smoke Tech.. Have a look at the pictures here. The flange on the bottom is really similar if not identical.
Ok well I guess I stand corrected. On there site it says new from madvapes and while they identify the cartos as smoketech they dont refer to a brand on the tank. This led me to think that madvapes made it as they also sell mods that they make themselves. However after looking at your link I believe your are correct and these are from smoketech directly.
 

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Looks like the 1.5 ohm dc in there and looks like it can be replaced as far as I can tell. Looks like a good option for the tool-less and non fiddly type folks.

I guess I'm going to have to order a couple ;) I can't tell if that flange is some sort of an extra part or if it's actually part of the carto.
 

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I guess I'm going to have to order a couple ;) I can't tell if that flange is some sort of an extra part or if it's actually part of the carto.

Great! Looking forward to the review. I'm 'guessing' that the flange is not a part of the carto as that would require some retooling.

Also, for the man that has everything, have you tried the echo-e yet? It's supposed to have a little different design and perhaps a different coil composition but I can't find anything definitive on it. It's on my list of future things to try though. :vapor: :laugh: :vapor:
 

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Great! Looking forward to the review. I'm 'guessing' that the flange is not a part of the carto as that would require some retooling.

Also, for the man that has everything, have you tried the echo-e yet? It's supposed to have a little different design and perhaps a different coil composition but I can't find anything definitive on it. It's on my list of future things to try though.

I think I'm going to skip this one after all. According to this post , the carto is made that way and it isn't just a regular dual coil. The flange is built on. -- I have to do a "wait and see" for a while. When the cartos are available and there is a price tag, then I'll weigh the value of the inexpensive tank.

I almost bought an echo and looked at the echo-e cartos. But, I liked the cropduster mod so much (it's a puck with a flat pack ni-mh battery), I bought two of those instead. The echo and echo-e cartos get some good reviews and have quite a following, so I think that system is probably worth it... but I'm starting to lean away from the ego and ego-style gear. Those things do have their place in my vaping, but I'm spending more and more time either carrying a bottom feeder around or one of my tube mods and a few full cartos.

To be perfectly honest, I think the next time I spend any substantial amount of money on vaping gear, I'm probably headed towards a more durable bottom feeder. I haven't really decided if I am going to go wood or metal yet, but I use my plastic ones enough that I think I'd like to be able to carry one that could handle the sort of abuse I give my PVs.
 

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The flange is part of the carto. Its suppose to stop it from leaking? Waiting to see how much the cartos are gonna be before I get one and if they will have different ohms.

...and controls the position of the carto relative to the tank. ...thumbs up for that.
 

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I think I'm going to skip this one after all. According to this post , the carto is made that way and it isn't just a regular dual coil. The flange is built on. -- I have to do a "wait and see" for a while. When the cartos are available and there is a price tag, then I'll weigh the value of the inexpensive tank.

Good to know. If they put the carto out at a decent price, folks might start using them in their homemade tank mods also.




....I almost bought an echo and looked at the echo-e cartos. But, I liked the cropduster mod so much (it's a puck with a flat pack ni-mh battery), I bought two of those instead. The echo and echo-e cartos get some good reviews and have quite a following, so I think that system is probably worth it... but I'm starting to lean away from the ego and ego-style gear. Those things do have their place in my vaping, but I'm spending more and more time either carrying a bottom feeder around or one of my tube mods and a few full cartos.

To be perfectly honest, I think the next time I spend any substantial amount of money on vaping gear, I'm probably headed towards a more durable bottom feeder. I haven't really decided if I am going to go wood or metal yet, but I use my plastic ones enough that I think I'd like to be able to carry one that could handle the sort of abuse I give my PVs.

One of the bottom feeders I keep looking at is the vapage vmod because I just like the looks of it. One of the cons though is the tiny 14250 for 6v vaping. On the other hand, the 2.8 ohm silo is only three bucks and is supposed to hold up well even at 6v.
 

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Unless the special tank cartomizer is a different diameter than a regular dual coil, the only thing keeping you from using any dual coil with the tank would be if the tank itself slides up and down the carto easily. If the tank sits on the cartomizer securely, there's no reason to purchase special cartomizers.
 

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If they put the carto out at a decent price, folks might start using them in their homemade tank mods also.

One of the bottom feeders I keep looking at is the vapage vmod

Yes. I was sort of thinking that, too. If it is a superior design (and I think just the fact that it controls the depth the carto is in the tank might just be good enough to call it superior - plus it can't spin so it will be more predictable when taking apart and putting back together) and if it's a competitive price, then I think there's at least a couple of modders around who will make some stainless steel capped tanks and maybe even SS caps with a fill hole for it.

That Vmod still surprises me. When the vapage guy showed up on the forum shilling that product, I thought for sure it was going to turn out to be bogus. I used to have a cigar lighter that looks so much like it that there would be almost no way to tell them apart if they were laying on the desk next to each other. The only difference at all in how they look is the lighter has a butane diffuser where the carto connector is on the vmod.

I might be headed toward the VV REO when it shows up. I'm still having trouble swallowing the VV koolaid (bought a VV box just to discover I run it at the same voltages for the same cartos and attys I could without VV), but REO has earned his reputation by making and selling a quality product and even though VV is not very important to me, I may as well have it if I'm going to spend that sort of money on a single device.
 

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I've seen a few other threads where someone spent anywhere from 3 to 15 bucks to build something like that... so 12 bucks is a pretty good price point when it could cost someone more to make their own.

It costs me $2.75 to build a syringe tank including the DC carto. Although I'll probably not try one of MV's tanks, I'm glad to see a rea$onable price on one.
 

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.... REO has earned his reputation by making and selling a quality product and even though VV is not very important to me, I may as well have it if I'm going to spend that sort of money on a single device.

True. If you've made up your mind, you might want to consider pre-ordering, if available, because I predict a run on them when they become available lol.
 

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True. If you've made up your mind, you might want to consider pre-ordering, if available, because I predict a run on them when they become available lol.

Robert doesn't do preorders. It's too hard to keep track of, and he doesn't like taking people's money before the product is available. Really though, if you find yourself mostly vaping at one setting, you can't go wrong with the REO Grand. It takes 3.7v, 5v, 6v, and 7.4v battery configurations, and is all mechanical and leak proof. The VV will be great, I'm certain, but there is nothing like the sturdiness and simplicity of the REO Grand and Mini.
 
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